My Low IQ Prevents Me from Participating In the Math and Physics Sections

Discussion in 'Human Science' started by Nihilism, Dec 29, 2013.

  1. pluto2 Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I have an intellectual disability too. I tend to forget things very quickly.

    I will probably never be able to get a job as a theoretical physicist because I am mentally retarded and intellectually disabled.

    Theoretical physics is highly mathematical and I'm just not so good at mathematics because I tend to forget mathematical facts that I learn very quickly.

    This Coldplay song describes how I feel perfectly:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pY9b6jgbNyc
     
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  3. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    Not another one!
    This time with a musical accompaniment.

    Do you know how many theoretical physicists there are in the world?
    (Real ones I mean, not the amateur scratchers who believe they have proved Einstein wrong
    and join sciforums to inform us about it.)

    The number is somewhat fewer than the number of Dollar Billionaires.
     
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  5. pluto2 Banned Valued Senior Member

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    In the entire world there are maybe about a 100 or maybe a little more than 100. Stephen Hawking, John Baez, Edward Witten and Lawrence Krauss come to my mind.
     
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  7. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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  8. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    And I had high expectations when I came here....

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  9. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    I'd better backtrack before I unnecessarily offend someone.
    Not every poster is an idiot, of course.
    There are a few people here who know a lot, and others have a good amateur grasp.
    Honest enquiry is good too, if people want to learn from people better informed.
    But 50% of it is nonsense, posted by delusional people who think they know more than people qualified in the subject.
     
  10. The Marquis Only want the best for Nigel Valued Senior Member

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    Regardless of IQ, an element of stupidity is required of all those who enter anywhere, here.

    There really ought to be a sign on the door.
     
  11. Captain Kremmen All aboard, me Hearties! Valued Senior Member

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    "Abandon hope...................
     
  12. cornel Registered Senior Member

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    It's interesting how you 're measured to have high verbal IQ, while your post makes clear that people have told you(verbally or written, realy doesn't matter) you are dumb and you just accept that.
    Maybe that is what they actually measured, how easy you are to control with words.

    And as others stated, you can learn, you can simply ask for help on sciforums(it would give the forums something to do and you a chance to develop), you can read up,
    find solutions(let me be clear about this, i don't mean mathematical solutions, i mean ways of overcoming problems, like the things i 'm writing down right now)
    and anything you choose to.
     
  13. Sorcerer Put a Spell on you Registered Senior Member

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    Most of us hit a level beyond which we cannot proceed as far as maths is concerned. For me, that was the third year of my BSC when I discovered tensor calculus (I still got those 3 letters after my name though).

    It's possible to understand many scientific concepts without having to do the maths. Publications like SciAm explain complicated issues very well. Let's face it, most of us have other careers so we can't be expected to keep up with the equations.
     
  14. pluto2 Banned Valued Senior Member

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    Biology is relatively easy compared to physics.

    But when it comes to physics and complicated mathematical equations I must admit that I'm just not bright enough to be able to tackle the complex mathematical machinery.

    And since I'm definitely not smart enough to handle the complex mathematics which is part of higher physics subjects like quantum field theory, general relativity and superstring theory for example, I think that I'll better leave physics for someone who is much more capable than me.
     
  15. Gerry Nightingale Banned Banned

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    In reply to nihilism, re: your postings.

    If you know what it "feels" as a condition to suffer from nihilism, as opposed to a mere definition...then you are not "intellectually stunted". (stupid people do not "know" they

    are stupid) A measured I.Q. is meaningless with regard to the ability to think and reason.

    No one is "born" with intellectual prowess, or powers beyond others. "Affines" and "hyper-spatial" extrapolations just "look" intimidating...they aren't. Anyone can learn them.

    It is vastly more important to know what a "thing" is, what it means in relationship to other things, rather than to able to "look up" effects of a thing and describe them.

    ......

    Abraham Lincoln's childhood and subsequent decades were filled with disappointment and despair. He came from nothing and nowhere, nothing more than "poor white trash".

    He educated himself with books until he was able to pass a bar exam, and become an "esquire" of law.

    He was a failure as a lawyer (very few clients, with many losses in court) He was a failure at business, resulting in 3 bankruptcies. He was a failure as a politician, being defeated

    by what he called "well-connected scalawags" who care nothing for the public trust. He persevered in politics...and the rest is history.

    He too was considered "uncommonly ugly in countenance, with the appearance and gait of a stork". (news columnist circa 1859)

    ......

    Lincoln is a example of rising above very poor circumstances. He refused to accept his lot in life as a "failure". What he did not know, he learned. He assigned no "limits" to

    himself, despite his circumstances. He did care overly much for his own appearance, and just went on, saying "My visage may well be poor, yet it comforts me to know it

    cannot worsen".

    ......

    nihilism, make of yourself as it pleases you, not as it pleases others...because they are not you.


    ......

    You worry over what you think you don't know, or understand...focus on what you do know, and the rest will come as it may. Do you remember "The Beatles"? None of them

    knew anything about music theory or structure....none could even read music! I think they did okay though, despite the handicaps.

    (Ringo did alright in the "girl department", despite "me enormous hooter" and small stature...more fan mail from girls than other 3 put together)

    ......



    (Thanks for reading!)
     
  16. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    Lincoln was a funny man too, or at least he liked to think so. Here's a joke he liked to tell when he was in the White House:

    A committee of state congressmen were touring a newly opened prison back in Illinois. One of them somehow became separated from the group, and he wandered around lost in an empty section. Finally, he came upon a prisoner in a cell, and said to him, "Excuse me, friend, can you tell me how to get out of here?"

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  17. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    My IQ was measured when I was ten at, I think, 107+/-. Twenty years later it was measured at around 145. When I was 10 I was not goal driven, including the goal of scoring well on IQ tests. I have little regard for IQ tests, consider myself very intelligent, yet am absolutely useless when it comes to maths. Also I do not look like Tom Cruise. So what? What matters is what you do with what you have and how you interact with the rest of the planet.
     
  18. Intersect Registered Member

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    It takes about a month to learn guitar so I don't see the difference with math ,the underlying problem is value ,how you value things the more obsessed ,appreciative ,passionate and receptive and the methods of learning for memory that are best compatable go a long way pertaining to if you have a visual memory versus a audible memory..

    Like a baby crawling to learn to walk, repetition is the key, like a novice painter who can be told how to paint but cannot be a good painter because practice makes perfect or at least the illusion of it..since I dont believe in anything being "perfect"
     
  19. Arne Saknussemm trying to figure it all out Valued Senior Member

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    It doesn't matter if one is intelligent or not. What maters is if your heart is pure.

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  20. yojimbo808 Registered Member

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    Firstly all your measurements mean is that you have a normal average brain for the most part. Secondly intelligence has two parts crystallized (fixed) and fluid part which can change. Instead of worrying about what you have or haven't got, how about making the most of what you do have and play the hand you are dealt. There are things you can do like study maths and physics, use N-back to train working memory which helps in problem solving and last work very hard. Physics is one of the most difficult areas of human knowledge to study. It does not matter how intelligent you are as to how much effort you would be willing to work. You may find that Theoretical Physics is not your cup of tea. It could be Applied Physics, Engineering or something else. At least you would have a solid grounding in science and problem solving, which is better than most congressmen. Learning a difficult subject can eventually be very rewarding in and of itself.

    “Whether you think you can, or you think you can't--you're right.” -Henry Ford
    “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.” -Albert Einstein
     
  21. !!!!!batman!!!!! Registered Member

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    george carlin has a skit where he goes "think about it this way, think about how stupid the average person is and then realize, that half of them are stupider then that.
    [video=youtube;8rh6qqsmxNs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rh6qqsmxNs[/video]
     
  22. kurros Registered Senior Member

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    There are rather are lot more than 100. It is similar to the number of experimental physicists, of which there several thousand in the ATLAS and CMS collaborations alone, and that is just in the field of high energy particle physics. There are something like 500 string theorists registered to go to the Strings 2014 conference alone: http://physics.princeton.edu/strings2014/Participants.shtml
     
  23. andy1033 Truth Seeker Valued Senior Member

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    I was always glad i found out i became a target for uk gov at school, and just walked away from my alevels.

    Knowing what i know about this, was more important in my life than alevels, or how well i did in some maths or science class. I found out something most will never find out, and i gave up on my alevels for the simple fact it did not stimulate me enough. It just was not my destiny, although i was good at maths and science generally, i am glad i found out what i did, and just walked away from it and my future in effect.

    All you smart arses never found out what i did in my life, so i could not care less how great you feel. I had an above average iq, but i did not need validation to my worth.

    I bet those at oxford and cambridge doing maths and physics mostly would never of found out what i did.

    I wouldn't swap places with any of them. Science can only go so far, and i found out at school, the people teaching do not really understand what they are teaching, so in turn never awoken something in me to be stimulated.

    I do not regret not getting some sort of higher technical understanding in physics or maths at a higher level to put my ideas down further, but so what, i bet most people with science degrees would not understand me anyway. So its not a be all and end all, although sometimes having a technical knowledge of stuff like physics may of helped me talk on the net better, i do not care if people do not understand my reasoning.

    Technical knowledge i find, is not the be all and end all.
     

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