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Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by JJM, Mar 28, 2014.

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  1. JJM Registered Senior Member

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    LIFE, LIBERTY,FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE IS NATURALLY SACRED. No government has the right to infringe upon the economic progress of the public unless an initiation of violence of any type occurs. The occasion of insurance/assurance companies to be liable for ANY harms is its role. Plus the perpetrator must pay for all injuries and may serve time. YES VALUES ARE ABSOLUTE. TRY TO LIVE LIFE WITHOUT THEM. VALUES ARE OBJECTIVE. What you do is by your choice, a subjective conclusion of/from objective states......
     
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  3. JJM Registered Senior Member

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    Want to play? You are the want, I......."There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous or more uncertain in its success than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things." Machiavelli......So it is so for all things, persons and people. One day America will become a true American Laissez-faire capitalist country, which it should and ought to. As it had slightly in the past, before government/gangster involvements. As long as there is the Vote and ego-centric rational-logical objective understandings by the masses of people, rationality shall and will all ways prevail. Because of that I have decided to build..........."space and time" is that area within a compressed compression pressure density geometrical structure as produced from the laws of collision, friction, and motion.{[(ke^2)^2](1'/1)}.+/at force pressure density mechanical durational geometry and style..."mass and energy" is that property of compressed compression pressure density producing 'mass' by the force density of the collision, friction, motion, ke^2 etc...geometrically/stylistically...........Some have suggested that 'mass''bending' ' space -time' is the source of and for gravity, they are the same thing.i.e. as the 'mass'/density/gravity formed,in the collision geometry/style also 'bends' 'space',the compression density also compresses the place in 'space' where it is located,a part of the mechanism with that being one fraction of the occasion. The 'bending' of space by formations are fraction of a larger event in that their location and events of their 'space-time-mass-energy' which are produced from and by the laws of collision, friction and motion, and anything else in this universe that can produce the stable density mechanical duration as stylistically geometrical. ......
     
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    You can't even walk down the street without obeying pedestrian laws. You can't do it in the nude or you'll be arrested. Some places, you can't spit on the sidewalk without incurring a fine. You didn't make the sidewalks, the streets, the landscaping, or the traffic lights. Someone else did that for your benefit, and you are not free to abuse them or the rights of the people who live there.

    You can't grow or eat food unless someone else saved and planted those seeds for you. Tell me how free you are again?

    Freedom is not an absolute; it always comes with responsibility. You want me to explain the rest of life (liberty, truth) to you? None of these are absolutes. I wasn't kidding.
     
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    I did and still do, as you do, pay for the street, the landscaping, the traffic lights, and especially so the sidewalks. It is a contract, or it should be and ought to be, between government and the public, ergo taxes.....I work, my life and time are important to me. I place a very high value on my existence/time. I trade an amount of my effort for the goods that allow me to survive. A trade for an equal trade. So in specifics, I allowed for that seed to be planted. We both succeeded. ..... You say Freedom, Life, Liberty, Independence is not an absolute, then have you lived where it is not, and have you learned what it means..... Responsible responsibility is not a burden, it is living a life of ones' own choice/avocation. Tyranny is when that is not allowed......In recent years that was portrayed very nicely by the obama/reid coalition to prevent the public from speaking, by not allowing any/very few) bills from the House to be even acknowledged let alone to be read and voted on in the Senate. That is real tyranny. Able to willy-nilly change/control peoples lives, for the local/national state. Is it now seig heil/democrate/ obama? Very vile folks they are. I want you to know that.....I just checked my other spot in the cesspool, combined there is now a total of 13,506 views. Gravity density and ftl are exactingly specific subjects.
     
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    Truth, even mathematical truth, is also a value. This has been discussed at length in other threads.

    Our lives are always better without either absolutes or obsessions, which amount to the same thing.

    In politics, there are always (at least) two views, and neither of those can be relied on to be right 100% of the time, as that would be another one of those absolutes.

    Be that as it may, I can't imagine anything more steadfastly wrong and with more corrupted values than the G.W.Bush administration. Certainly not the current one.

    Well, this one doesn't belong there (in the cesspool). It is a good thread, even if the topic opener was a bit vague. Keep trying.
     
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    Can one love a subject so much that he doesn't care for any thing else? Living life in a daily mode, with the mind continually working on questions. Always scribbling down new avenues and tangents with pencils that never run out of lead, and with pens that never go dry, for at least fifty years. The value of math as I see it is that there is qualitative and quantitative, each apart and yet also together. Math is the description of event and object, like color to an artist, and notes to a musician. Its like a shorthand which in a few words is made up of pages and pages of itself. Like that picture puzzle we all have in our heads and as one piece is found and added, the event of the puzzle becomes clearer and the puzzle itself becomes larger. As more pieces are demanded, it becomes more demanding to know and demanding to have it clear. With every 'clearing/seeing' new understandings are understood and common denominators are enacted and new knowledge develops. Which demands measurement...... I appreciate voluntary compulsion for any one that embraces it for their own study/understang's'. To know it from your own perspective, not someone elses'. One usually looks to see what others have done with a particular question, after you have arrived at your own conclusion. Asking the questions necessary for the next steps. It is not difficult to create your own math too describe your work. Descriptive analysis..... Past, present and future for everything, which in time with the greatness of the huge populations with all those brains working on the basics, newness will evolve.....
     
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    Symbols are the tools of a finite mind. Without them, finite minds would be much worse off, but there are meanings between symbols you will never understand by using them alone. The universe is not a place where absolutes even exist. In every crevice lurks shades of meaning too subtle to grasp through quantization. Counting alone is the opposite of cognition.

    Any AI based on manipulating symbols in lieu of real cognition is just another one of Turing's halting problems with a finite life before an odd sequence of symbols, or a change in the symbols themselves renders it unable to process further.

    Our minde aren't like that, nor would anyone wish them to be. Absolutes create only obsessions. Obsession with the use symbols not only will not solve every problem; it will render it impossible to solve a great many. Worship of symbols creates only idols unworthy of your devotion.
     
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    It takes cognition to create counting....... You are right AI does require an objective 'view'..... I am absolutely obsessed about the absolute need for oxygen. Is it not a 'universality'? Are there any absolutes of existence that you could 'survive' without?.....It is the content of thought, by the means which it is delivered which is the reason of, for and from, physics/math. of course it must be logical and rational because that is what nature is, by what it does which is measurable, objectively.
     
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    In the absence of electromagnetic shields or some such device. Even if some craft could travel at or near light speed, unless the 'Space' in front of it up to its destination wasn't mapped and observable in real time so that the craft could take appropriate actions, wouldn't there be a very real danger that the craft would be utterly destroyed by crashing into even a tiny rock in its path? Actually isn't that a danger even with craft travelling at today's relatively slower speeds?
     
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    Hello.....The machine itself must protect by its' style...... There may be many ways for ftl propulsion, for Life or for robots..... Baby steps as you pointed out, what is in the way from a to b.? "It must be protected from EMR and mass." Maybe to be able to travel those speeds new styles of effort/work expressions may disregard the EMR/mass question. Exhaust-thrust can't afford the luxury.
     
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    For continuum continuity +-1N as all number and +-1n as all quality [(n)^N] very obvious. objects within objects of differing intensities and densities within sizes. Each number total for a given size is the result of physics of number size before it and its' locations within it and the totals available for the extent of each sizes' physics. Somewhat like a clear large vase filled with spheres of all sizes and colours even down/up to the sizes you cannot see, but number places at that size, is still a natural structure. Structural geometry by the continuous action of and from and maintained by the physics of larger size producing smaller size. Cause and effect plus each objects' identity as reactant, and. There may be structure even with out the intensities/densities but still be a stylistic geometrical structure but below or above the mc^2 threshold number total. .......exhaust-thrust problems must be solved, but how can you after creating the histories greatest invention and fountain head of knowledge with the shuttle and its' forwardness? and then throw it all away for some turncoats.?.......Emr/mass is a good question for greater speeds with deliverable life by exhaust-thrust------I would think that anyone reading this forum would or should be working on the question.
     
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    In a limited sense I agree. But in another sense, I highly doubt we will become an interstellar traveling civilization if we do not stop fighting each other here on earth and start cooperating over resources and technology. In order to build the massive space-faring ships we will need, it will require cooperation and pooling of resources on a planet-wide scale. It's just not going to happen on a planet divided up with national borders and suspicions. National divisions have to end and we need to function as one planet under one government if we're ever going to go anywhere..
     
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    Is it only relevant technological advances that consider worthiness? 1.Every advance is its' own worth. 2.The user determines its' worthiness for his own purpose. example: airplane ..........So I thought the same as yourself, must stop fighting first, then build. I learned that it is not the case. To be able to build there must be a modem of peace/civilization, even though there may be fighting for freedom somewhere on the planet. I am sorry to say that some people with ftl will be coarse and abusive/abrasive to encounters. The same thing happened with the taming and usage of the horse. The Laissez-fair laws and rules must apply. Inter/intra, galactically. Life, Liberty, Freedom, Independence is Naturally Sacred. It governs ALL....The questions of resources actually will be acute. Maybe people can start underwater mining with mining and processing submarines. Privately owned..... However it all sounds nice but that is not reality. War/brutality will transpire. As with the horse. and the airplane......The question of the size for ftl is relative to its' style, i.e. what properties of Nature are being used. How fast do you want to go.? Small is fast. Medium is faster. Large is (faster)^2, etc. etc. .....We Americans are slowly coming out of the most tyrannical regime we ever had. That was a 'single leader'. He and his henchmen are still with us. They have not all been voted out. Do you like living where everything you do is governed by government? That is what has almost happened to America, but because of the vote, sense and sense-ability is beginning again.....also what is yours belongs to you, I do not begrudge another for their rational gains.
     
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    (ke^2)^2 is a number for each of the actions occurring in a collision, friction, motion geometrically/stylistically as the transfers evolve. Remember that linear, angular, curvi-linear, 'mass'(formalism formation) each transfers to its counter part geometrically/stylistically. So (ke^2)^2....n per unit area, to the totality of the fpp' of and for each event. Also into this, must be added the sc/r&a, which is sc spatial compositional properties influencing the evolution of the collision, friction, motion, geometry, by resistance and absorption of and by nearby and overwhelming event from size space-time location within the larger size structure which allowed for and produced the physics for event.
     
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    Is there a particle there?......the highest expansion speeds of particles from the sun have the highest temperatures, the lowest expansion speeds of particles from the sun have the lowest temperatures. with all of the speeds and temperatures from the lowest to the highest in between. So does that imply a'layering', and is that relative to the ionization per mass per volume area, laterally, then would not a 'disturbance/s' exist perpendicular to the r^4 expansion due to the friction from the higher velocity on the property of a lesser velocity. Does instintanity occur from the laws of friction at that point? i.e. 'particles' forming from the pressure density disturbance of/from the differing velocities, temperatures, ionization's,massive amount of potentials, common and variable. 'Layers' within layers e-, p+ all within the solar wind velocity and internal resonance.....if our local space-time local event were similar, then can a capture of that fpp' and q potential be available? .i.e. coulomb for work? Can it be attracted to the outside skin of a space craft and be used as protection? Is that a possibility? Exhaust-thrust surely can use something like that. An attractor of local space-time property.
     
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    neutrons in free motion and layered as an admixture within the speed-temperature-distance mass volume area r^4 and q, as a part of the solar wind. Wouldn't pressures from different events around them, influence it.? And only those neutrons which can be influenced. This holds true for all particles. Influencing.
     
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    TPMV in #116 means temperature, pressure,mass,volume
     
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    Also the first paragraph of #116 helps to describe how some torus are formed............mass collides with mass, angular momentum collides with angular momentum, curvi-linear momentum collides with curvi-linear momentum,,,,,each collision produces a geometry/stylistically and each is a part of the total mass with the same mechanical duration (timeline). and each produces secondaries from itself as primary.....Geometry and 'chemical existence'/'styles' and 'totals' varies as the fpp' varies. The complete cycle of tpmv is dictated by intensities and styles of fpp' compositional periodicites. From the first contact for form to exist to the end of its existence, it is by fpp' mechanical duration geometrically which dictates the 'time line' of the layering 'chemical'/and physical force density, volume and strength at/in that area. fpp' is force pressure density.
     
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    How many resonances can exist in a 180* collision? Is there a lower/higher limit? How long do the resonances last? At what collision density? Do resonances last longer in a more dense object than a less dense one? What parameter must vary for a 'resonance' to 'last' a billion years? or 10, or 100 billion and more. What are the sizes at that point? What is/are the 'space'? Just for the fun of it, could a computer compute that? and can you do it? May be within the computation some Laws will be learnt.
     
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    hint, what property of momentum and density........
     
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