Getting Into Heaven

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  1. ISDAMan Thank You Jesus! Registered Senior Member

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    For those that trust that there is a Heaven, when you die, if God were to ask you the question, "Why should I let you into My Heaven?", what would you say? What other anweres do you think He would accept?

    Think well,
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  3. pashley Registered Senior Member

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    Well, if you are Christian, believing that Jesus died for your sins, and accepting him as Lord is enough. Some religions have a deeds clause, which doesn't make sense to me. All you would have to do is do nice things to get into Heaven. And what about those that are weak or incompetent, and could not do nice things? They would be denied? I don't know that, but my assumption....

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  5. Adlerian Registered Senior Member

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    Well, if you are Christian, believing that Jesus died for your sins, and accepting him as Lord is enough.

    Agreed.

    And thank you ISDA man, by the way, what does your name stand for?

    I have only read a little of your sermons but I thank you personally for shedding a little light in a dark world.

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  7. ISDAMan Thank You Jesus! Registered Senior Member

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    Adlerian,

    Thanks for the complement. It means a great deal to me. I figured that if there were those that really want to know about Christianity, they could see it in action in the FNS’s. I had been a more active poster at one time. Because of a request from a friend, it seems that I should increase my participation again. I’ll post my response after I see a few more responses in this string. I wonder. Do you believe in a literal Heaven? What of God? What is your concept?

    As for my name, it’s just sports related.

    Pashley & Adlerian,

    I can see you point. Still, taking it as a question from God, what would you say to Him in response? I’d like to see your heartfelt answer verses head knowledge (supposing you felt your eternity would be at stake if answered incorrectly). Also, what else do you think that God would accept from you?

    Thanks,
    ISDAMan
     
  8. samus Registered Senior Member

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    my response:

    i'm sorry.

    i'm not sorry that i was unsure he existed. he provided me with no assurances and no evidense, but did provide me with a logical mind which requires those things before i make a decision.

    i'm not sorry that i was unsure what was the right path to follow. again, i was given no evidense, and cannot trust what other fallable humans tell me, also without evidense.

    but i am sorry for all the times that i strayed from what i believed that path to be, even knowing my actions to be wrong.

    i don't know if god exists, and i don't know what he's like, and i don't know what he wants from me. but for all the ways i was inadequate in his eyes, i'm sorry.

    samus
     
  9. ISDAMan Thank You Jesus! Registered Senior Member

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    samus,

    Striking answer!!! I’ll reply later.
     
  10. 666 Registered Senior Member

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    666,

    You pretty much know ware I stand, but...

    Hey man it's your heaven, you chose. If I have to come up with a reason you obviously don't want me or even care for me.

    I would return with.

    We both have all the time in the universe now. So shead some light on all the mystirious stuff and half truths.

    Kinda gruff, but should get a goog long discusion going.


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  11. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    My response to the Almighty's question would be:

    "For the same reason you wanted me to let you into MY life."

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  12. ISDAMan Thank You Jesus! Registered Senior Member

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    First of, I’d like to say that I mean no harm to anyone. I’m sure you all know this by now. However, I’m going to have to lay it down straight and narrow. It’s the only way to be truthful.

    Oxygen,

    For the same reason you wanted me to let you into MY life.

    This response will not due. The assumption of your own power is great. He wants you in HIS life. Though, it is commonly stated the other way around (letting God in your life), even by myself, it is a fact that God created us for His pleasure and His Glory. We can’t have anything to do with Him if He doesn’t bridge the gap between us first. He has made us and He is the one that has reached out to all that have gone astray. He gave you life and though He gave you charge over it, it was never your own. There will come a day when you will have to give an account for the charge you have been given. On that day, it will be told weather or not you have lived up to that charge. You will be rewarded for your faithfulness, which is your manor of living,… be it righteous or unrighteous in relation to the plan of God for your life. Pay attention to what I have to say to 6. It ties directly in to what I have said to you.

    6,

    Hey man it's your heaven, you chose. If I have to come up with a reason you obviously don't want me or even care for me.

    O.k., let’s apply the same concept to your relationship with your mother. Suppose there are a house full of people and you knock upon her bedroom door. She has gone in for whatever reason of her own. When she asks, “Who is it?”, which is really to say, “Why should I let you in?”, does that show a lack of love on her part? Not at all! She has shown clearly that she and her domain is of value and that not just anyone can get in for whatever reason they want. You must pass her test of entry. When you say your name, it must be written in her heart as one that is acceptable to gain entry. In the same way, your name must be written in the Lambs Book of Life as one that is acceptable to gain entry to God’s domain. He and His domain has supreme value. It is hidden and kept away from just anyone. You don’t take your jewelry and just leave it out where anyone can get to it. You don’t just let anyone in on your personal affairs. You don’t just give your house key to everyone that asks for it. It is because of perspective of value that you protect these things. Even the more, though your mother would allow you in, it would only be after she has ensured that the things you should not see or have access to would be properly protected. Even within Heaven, there are still limits to be had. On the flip side, if you entered without permission, there would be conflict rather than the joy the acceptance of invitation brings. She makes herself available and listens to you. You ask to enter respectfully. She must first say, “Come in.” That’s how it works with God. He has made Himself available to us. Respectfully, by His plan, you ask for that relationship and the entry into Heaven that comes along with it. He must first accept you. It starts with Him and ends with Him. You are not the one in charge.

    We both have all the time in the universe now. So shead some light on all the mystirious stuff and half truths.

    There is nothing you can do to delay judgement. Neither do you make demands of the judge. He is the one presiding over the trial. Please, follow what I have to say to samus. It ties in directly right here.

    samus,

    i'm sorry.

    Really?!?! Let’s see your definition.

    i'm not sorry that i was unsure he existed. he provided me with no assurances and no evidense, but did provide me with a logical mind which requires those things before i make a decision.

    First, you pass the buck to try and show that it’s God’s fault in that you would have it thought that He didn’t live up to His end. Second, you pass the buck in the age old claim of, “God made me this way.” Let me tell you this. It is a fact that God made man perfect and without blemish. Man brought on the sin and imperfection. Some months ago, I posted this in response to one of several questions by 6:

    Q: Why does God want to be with us so badly after we die?
    A: Try and build a computer from the ground up. I mean straight from nothing. You have to even make the resistors, capacitors, and what not. Painfully labour through the planning. Go through all of the soddering, wiring, and so forth. Personally design and select everything that you want to have in it as hardware. Design the OS from your own wisdom and give it life to flow through the cpu that you created with no help from anyone. Now, tell me. When it is all complete, is there a sense of satisfaction to be had? Would you not take time to admire the work of your own creation? It is a truth that you would be more fond of that computer than any other. Now, with the modem that you created, allow your creation to reach out into the world wide web. When that master hacker attacks your system, despite your safeguards, will you not be distraught? Will you not fight to get your creation back to it's original form? Will you not also make provision so that once you restore your creation, you can also keep the master hacker from ever attacking your restored creation again? We all understand, in terms of computers, the rational for virus cleaning and software upgrades. Well, God, having created us from the nothing up, is quite fond of us. He is willing to fight tooth and nail for us. He Loves us dearly and had that Love even before He made us!!! His goal is the same. He wants to clean the virus out of our system with the Blood of Christ. He also wants to upgrade us so that we can function as we were designed from the start. The upgrade is by His Holy Spirit living within us. When He fixes us, that is the point when His children die. We are dead to the ways of the world and that old virus called sin! AMEN!!! He raises up the New Man, Christian version 5.0!!! He'll go 0-Prayer in less than 2 seconds. He comes complete with GPS (Godly Positioning System). There's even free fuel and maintainance for life! God's goal was never to be with us after we die in the flesh. His goal was always to be with us IN LIFE!!!

    There’s one thing I did not make clear enough. There’s one more ingredient. It’s called free will. We have it. We can’t pass the buck to Satan either.

    i'm not sorry that i was unsure what was the right path to follow. again, i was given no evidense, and cannot trust what other fallable humans tell me, also without evidense.

    Now, it's other people’s fault. How many bridges don’t you cross because they were made by man? Where’s the proof of safety? Do you eat hot dogs or some other processed foods? You do know that there have been bad batches that have sickened and even killed people,… don’t you? Has the fact that you know that there are liars as car salesmen on car lots kept you away from them? Do you question your doctor with the same intensity you do the things of God? How about your phone bill, do you scrutinize that? Well, if you won’t put forth the effort in those areas, where does the will to do so come from here? Now, don’t misunderstand me. The truth of God can stand up to any scrutiny. I invite you to test it. God’s Word does not fail. Still, the only reason you don’t want to get with God’s program is because of rebellion. You want it your way. Life ain’t Burger King!!!! If you choose to follow the wrong path when God has set His guides (Christians) all over the world to be a light to your footsteps, it’s only because you wanted to go your own way and seek your own pleasure. There is no way to blaze your own trail to God. Are you really going to let the fact that there have been some liars keep you from seeking, being ready to accept, and nurturing the truth? If so, you do yourself a great disservice.

    but i am sorry for all the times that i strayed from what i believed that path to be, even knowing my actions to be wrong.

    You acknowledge your imperfection. That’s wonderful. Still, who is culpable? If you refuse to allow Jesus Christ to bare your burden, you bare your own. It’s that simple! You are culpable.

    i don't know if god exists, and i don't know what he's like, and i don't know what he wants from me. but for all the ways i was inadequate in his eyes, i'm sorry.

    He has shown Himself to you in all of creation. He has revealed Himself to you in His Children. He has written Himself into His Word. What more are you asking for? What effort are you willing to put into knowing the truth. Sure, He has made Himself available. Yet, if you never ask, you’ll not receive. If you don’t seek, don’t look to find. God has taken the beginning and the end of the matter. He has left the middle up to you. What will you do with it? Will you knock on that door to ask for that relationship and the access to Heaven that comes with it and stand in expectation to hear, “Come in child.”?

    Lastly, I have stated it before that it is far too late, at the day of judgement, to profess to be a changed person. Once the trial has ended, there is nothing you can say to the judge. When the verdict is read, your time has long since ended. That is the end of the proceedings. Only the reward is to follow. Will yours be Heaven or Hell?

    Thanks for the wonderful responses,
    ISDAMan

    <HR>Here is the complete Q & A Below:<HR>

    Q: Basically about the meaning of life. In your opinion why did God create humans?

    A: Corp.Hudson's answer was actually accurate to a degree. God has not left us totally in the dark. We see through a glass darkly,... not a brick wall. To add to it, He creates because He is all good and good desires to not be contained up in oneself. There being no one else, He made plenty of someones to share good with.Who can know the whys to His types of designs. He's very creative.

    Q: In your opinion what was the reason for this?

    A: Same answer.

    Q: Why the need for us to accept him?

    A: A master hacker (Satan) has infected us with the worst software virus (Sin) known to ever exist. It's fouled up our cpu's (Minds) and will eventually crash our hard drives (Bodies). If we don't accept the patch (Jesus) from the manufacturer (God), we'll never process anything right and our best performance level (The lives we were intended to live) will never be met. It's funny. We wouldn't accept our own behavior from our computers. Yet, somehow, we expect God to accept this poor performance from us.

    Q: Why does God want to be with us so badly after we die?

    A: Try and build a computer from the ground up. I mean straight from nothing. You have to even make the resistors, capacitors, and what not. Painfully labour through the planning. Go through all of the soddering, wiring, and so forth. Personally design and select everything that you want to have in it as hardware. Design the OS from your own wisdom and give it life to flow through the cpu that you created with no help from anyone. Now, tell me. When it is all complete, is there a sense of satisfaction to be had? Would you not take time to admire the work of your own creation? It is a truth that you would be more fond of that computer than any other. Now, with the modem that you created, allow your creation to reach out into the world wide web. When that master hacker attacks your system, despite your safeguards, will you not be distraught? Will you not fight to get your creation back to it's original form? Will you not also make provision so that once you restore your creation, you can also keep the master hacker from ever attacking your restored creation again? We all understand, in terms of computers, the rational for virus cleaning and software upgrades. Well, God, having created us from the nothing up, is quite fond of us. He is willing to fight tooth and nail for us. He Loves us dearly and had that Love even before He made us!!! His goal is the same. He wants to clean the virus out of our system with the Blood of Christ. He also wants to upgrade us so that we can function as we were designed from the start. The upgrade is by His Holy Spirit living within us. When He fixes us, that is the point when His children die. We are dead to the ways of the world and that old virus called sin! AMEN!!! He raises up the New Man, Christian version 5.0!!! He'll go 0-Prayer in less than 2 seconds. He comes complete with GPS (Godly Positioning System). There's even free fuel and maintainance for life! God's goal was never to be with us after we die in the flesh. His goal was always to be with us IN LIFE!!!

    Q: Why make us living humans then make us die in order for us to be with him in the first place if he really wanted to be with us, and not just put us through a test to see if we make the grade?

    A: God's work, the work He put so much effort into, just like your own work, has value. To have value is to have a cost. God's system is a system of payment for this reason. The wages of sin is death. God did not design us to die. Sin, being malignant, had caused us degradation. We are tainted with it and our value is lost. Just as the tiny seed will grow into a great tree, the tiny seed of sin will grow into great destruction.

    Romans 5

    <FONT COLOR="BLUE">15 But not as the offence, so also is the free gift. For if through the offence of one many be dead, much more the grace of God, and the gift by grace, which is by one man, Jesus Christ, hath abounded unto many.
    16 And not as it was by one that sinned, so is the gift: for the judgment was by one to condemnation, but the free gift is of many offences unto justification.</FONT>

    Sin = Order to Mass Disorder

    Jesus = Mass Disorder to Order

    God still sees the value of what we were and what we can be. Incidentally, that's why God flooded the world. With man's heart continually upon sin, there was no longer any potential value in what He could be. He was rotten to the core. Enough of that commercial though. We were never supposed to die. We were always supposed to have the same intimate contact with God that Adam had prior to being booted out of the garden. God gave us a free will. He did not give us a chance to choose right and wrong. He placed before us the choice to choose right. However, the giving of a chance to choose right also contains the chance not to choose it. No other choice needs bee given. Furthermore, there was no special power in the fruit on that tree. God gave the right choice to follow His direction and stay away from that tree. Now that we find that it burns, we want to blame God for having the rule not to have anything to do with that tree in the first place. That's as foolish as a murderer saying that if it weren't for the laws against murder, he wouldn't have done it. It's that crazy! Yet, we use that same basically stupid logic in relating to God. Heck, we do it all over. Just look at everyone that wants to legalize drugs because they think that if it wasn't marked as illegal, there'd be no problem at all. Would you like a drug user to be your bus driver, surgeon, accountant, chiropractor, care giver, baby sitter, or judge? If God allowed just any old thing, He would be guilty of doing the same thing. He is working properly. We are malfunctioned. If, in our cpu's (Minds), we refuse to accept the upgrade (Holy Spirit) by way of His fix (Jesus), our hard drives (Bodies) are doomed to crash (Die) and scatter our data (Spirits) into oblivion (Hell). God has a recovery program that takes effect before the crash,... and PRAISE GOD that He will provide a New Body, one that is incorruptible, to those that have accepted the upgrade.

    Fear the Day or the Lord when His righteous judgement will come and be wise to accept His salvation,
    ISDAMan

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  13. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    A philosophical quandary; to what heaven to we seek entry?

    Standing at the gates of the Summerland, I would be tempted to respond: Who are you to ask that of me?

    But if the Mother insists, as mothers do: Because you invited me.

    But if we're limiting this to the God of Christian tradition, I suppose the answer would be: "I can't believe that you brought me here just to waste our time and ask me that question; however, since God is not extraneous, we must assume that You, O Lord, have invited me to be here."

    thanx,
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  14. ISDAMan Thank You Jesus! Registered Senior Member

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    Tiassa,

    "I can't believe that you brought me here just to waste our time and ask me that question; however, since God is not extraneous, we must assume that You, O Lord, have invited me to be here."

    Poor assumption! Your freedom pass has been revoked. This is not some engagement that will end in an hour or even a day or two. An invitation can be denied. In reality, it is <U>appointed</U> once for man to die and then the judgement. The wonderful thing is that the outcome of the trial can be settled prior to the appointment. God would still love to settle your case out of court. Settle your case by way of Jesus, and all that needs be done is a reading of the decree. Face judgement on your own and we all know what is said of a man that is his own attorney.

    The truth is an easy story to tell. It only comes in one version.
    ISDAMan

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  15. Oxygen One Hissy Kitty Registered Senior Member

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    ISDAMan- I read your response to both myself and to 666. Very thought provoking. I see the deal, though, and if I may use your example of mommy dearest and her bedroom, I will try to illustrate what is essentially a matter of choosing the right words.

    Mother, by asking "Who is it?", is merely verifying identity to ensure her safety and privacy. She is, as I am all too aware, mortal. God, in this scenario, is challenging me for the entrance to heaven. He is not merely asking who I am, he's demanding that I justify my reason for being there. He is, according to the faith, immortal and all-powerful. Why would he have the need to challenge me, or am I talking to Odin?(

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    ) Odin I would expect to challenge me. I would think less of his faith if he didn't. But the Christian god is reported to be all-loving and all-forgiving. Perhaps the god in the scenario should be asking "Who is it?" In which case my response would be "One of your children who has lost her way and wants only to come home." (If I am talking to God, then my atheist standpoint would have been, in this scenario, proven unequivocably and dreadfully obviously wrong. I'm not holding my breath, though.)

    Sidenote: If he insists on being confrontational about the matter, I'm taking the shot. He'll smite me like a gnat, but I'm gonna try to kick his holy a**. Maybe I'll wake up in Valhalla with a bunch of guys who like Heavy Metal gods and drink mead like it was water.

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  16. 666 Registered Senior Member

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    ISDAMan,

    Relationships are a 2 way street. To be with God is to be in a relationship with god. Just as I would not accept constant demands and confrontation from a girlfriend or spouse I will not accept this from a relationship with god. As this is what I see from the proposed question and through out the bible, I will push back.

    When a mother ask "who is it?" she is not being confrontational she is simply trying to protect her modesty. If god is trying to protect him self from something that would directly translate into me having equal if not more power then him. In which case I would need to ask "Why would I want in?"

    If the questions was changed to "Who is it?" I would simply respond "It's you!"

    I want to talk about this a little more because the first time I read it I saw something but wasn't to sure what I saw. Well now I see.

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    To enter heaven we must be free from sin. The wages of sin is death. Well we all die. So this would mean that in life and in death we are sinners (I hope you can see ware I'm going from here). So this would mean that no one is going to heaven and we are all going to hell. So lets pack up the gear and go home, there are no odds of winning.


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  17. Brian Registered Senior Member

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    ISDAMan,

    Well, first, maybe I shouldn't even be sticking my nose in here because I don't necessarily 'trust' that there is a 'literal' heaven. Of course, I could be wrong.

    What I do trust in completely is what I call the 'highest power' - as explained previously, to me, it is nameless and faceless.

    But, if when I die, I find out that it is actually 'called' "God" and that there is actually a literal "heaven" and God were to ask "Why should I let you into My Heaven?" I would probably instinctively bow down in awe and say something like, "Well, actually God, I don't know for sure if you 'should' let me in. I trusted and accepted your will when I was alive and you never let me down, thank you! - So, I think I should do the same now. Whatever your decision, I trust and accept that it's the right one."

    As I said - "something" like that.

    Thanks,

    Brian
     
  18. samus Registered Senior Member

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    isdaman,

    okay, i'm going to ignore all the standard christian schlock you just posted and agree with brian. he's GOD. he's all powerful and all knowing. there ISN'T anything you can say that isn't either something he already knows or a lie. you can't argue with him and talk your way into heaven. you are either in or you aren't.

    i would reply, but you wouldn't listen.

    samus
     
  19. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    ISDAMan--

    The way I see it, the God of the Christians knows my heart, as such. He knows my deepest thoughts, He knows I whether or not I love Him. Therefore, His asking the question seems to be a redundant process, since he already knows the answer. Now, unless God is so extraneous as to insist on having a bended knee and an oath of fealty when He already knows the answer, it would seem that, by the time I reach such a point that He would ask such a question, I would have already been invited into His presence. Truly, the only other way I can explain God bothering with such a process is that He has a fetish for seeing the surprised looks on the faces of the condemned, but that's not necessarily a fair assessment.

    thanx,
    Tiassa

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  20. Tony H2o Registered Senior Member

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    mmmmmm..........Sounds rather confrontational up front doesn't it?

    Personally I don't think this question is being asked because God doesn't know you or is trying to put you on the spot. I think He would ask a person this very question for them to consider in a different way. That being, "Who am I to expect God to let me into heaven?"

    I straight away thought of my first post into this place "OVERVIEW". If you have read this you will remember the question that was repeatedly asked of me, "Who are you?" "Who are you?" "Who are you?"

    This was not a question asked because Jesus did not have a clue as to who I was, it was a rhetorical question asked of me to make me consider "Who am I in the presence of the Lord of all Glory?" "By what name can I be identified?" "What words would aptly describe who I am?" . My own name fell short, His question was a question that cut through every facet and every construct of who I considered myself to be, it cut to my heart and left me with no answer to give. The question penetrated every part of my being and showed me that there was nothing I could answer that was not already know. The question wanted me to consider my place in His presence, my name, that by which I am known, my deeds, my actions, my very character in the presence of Him. In His presence at that time I had no answer, my character was not His character, my nature was as alien to His holiness as ants living on the moon.

    I think this is the question that God will ask, I think this is what ISDA is trying to get us to consider. Consider an encounter with the Lord of all Glory that will take place for every person who has inhabited this sphere. In that encounter, regardless of the question, it will be us asking ourselves this very thing.

    "Who am I in the presence of God?" "What answer can I give that He will accept?" "By what name can I make myself know to Him in this place?" "By what right do I stand before Him?"

    If you could only see what I see, know what I know, know what ISDA knows. Then you would understand the reason for his question.

    Consider this:

    Matthew 7:
    21 Not everyone who says to me, Lord, Lord, will go into the kingdom of heaven; but he who does the pleasure of my Father in heaven.
    22 A great number will say to me on that day, Lord, Lord, were we not prophets in your name, and did we not by your name send out evil spirits, and by your name do works of power?
    23 And then will I say to them, I never had knowledge of you: go from me, you workers of evil.

    I Never had knowledge of you, do you think Jesus actually meant He never knew them? No, Jesus was saying unless we act according to the Fathers will, according to and in line with God's very character and nature in the things we do then they are of no account to Him. Regardless of how great or how mighty they may appear, they are useless unless they are according to God the Fathers will.

    Jesus said: "I only do and say the things that my Father does". These are the things that will bear us up through judgement, not anything we can answer, no not anything we have achieved, only the fruit of His presence in our lives.

    This is the question, what is your answer?


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  21. Rambler Senior Member Registered Senior Member

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    I would say:

    Beacuse you are all forgiving and there by there is nothing I have done or haven't done which would prevent me from entering. Now if thats a lie then you are'nt the god you claim to be which pretty much would put god on my flawed level would it not??? Then I would have to say who are you to question me, and how did you make it in?
     
  22. Brian Registered Senior Member

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    Tony,

    Hmmm... You and ISDAMan see things and know things that you wish the rest of us could see and know? Yet, you seem to skirt the question and then ask us the rest of us:

    As far as I can tell, I already answered the question.

    So, at this point, the new question is - what's your answer to the question, Tony?

    As a matter of fact, why don't you both take a stab at the ANSWER (you and ISDAMan)... Please, tell us, independently, how you would answer such a question?

    Thanks,

    Brian
     
  23. pashley Registered Senior Member

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    From what I gather of the question:

    "Why should I let you into My Heaven?", what would you say? What other anweres do you think He would accept?"

    You're asking, "what did you do on Earth to justify Me letting you in?" That's what I am hearing.

    Well, as a Christian, I didn't have to do any tasks to get into heaven. I DID have to accept Jesus as my saviour, and that's about it. The kingdom of Heaven is a gift, not something earned by doing things on Earth..."lest no man boast" as I recall....


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    "It was there, at the edge of the black abyss, that I found myself."
    -Patrick Ashley
     

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