needed help to understand bible verse

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  1. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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  3. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Meteorite strike.
    No, it would only sound like that if you are looking for some spurious reason to promote your theory, which is already getting short shrift in the physics & Maths forum, within the Religion forum where it simply doesn't belong.
     
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  5. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    You don't have a patent.
     
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  7. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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    you guys are so cynical, chill out. I've known about this stuff for four years. I know the first impressions when I see them. For example I already thought of a meteor but do meteors get 'tossed' the way it playfully describes? I mean what do you want me to do go back to john on patamos and ask him what he was talking about? geez
     
  8. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    You're seriously trying to understand Revelation?
    The guy who wrote it lived on a whole different plane - at least while writing it. You're not supposed to understand the images: they're exclusive, private and personal to John.
     
  9. Yazata Valued Senior Member

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    You probably should consult a good scholarly Bible commentary.
     
  10. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Yes. Both thrown objects and objects falling from space follow ballistic trajectories.
    It says nothing about the starting point, so you've no way of distinguishing what gave it its original motion or where it started from.
     
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  11. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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    Aww yes dave but did they not have meteors and comets 2,000 years ago? he describes it as a mountain that is thrown like a baseball from the earth onto the earth where the explosion makes it appear ablaze this I have observed using fireworks.
     
  12. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    Bronze age goat herders weren't known for their education. They probably didn't know the word "meteor".
     
  13. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Ones the size of mountains are ... rare.

    I don't imagine this is meant to be scientific account by a scientist, so I wouldn't hold him to a dispassionate, in-depth description.

    Does he? Not in the quote you posted.
     
  14. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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    I don't know, a better word to describe a meteor would probably be crash or slam into the earth not be thrown.
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    There would be lots of words you and I might change in the Bible, if anyone had asked for our input. I hope you're not attempting to take words in the Bible literally.

    Rocks are thrown out of a volcano; moons are thrown out of orbit; Comets are thrown out of the Oort cloud.
     
  16. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I know better than to try and make sense of nonsense.
     
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  17. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    wild guess:
    This thread is just a foil for that crazy f...ing patent.
     
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  18. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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    no it isn't, that's a literal bible verse written almost two thousand years ago about a vision that John had on the prison island of Patamos at age 90. How could it possibly be about some thing that wasn't thought of until 2011? I'm just asking if anyone can describe the symbology for me as most of revelations is written in symbols.
     
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    All right, then. In mythology and folklore, 3, 7 and 9 are mystical numbers. Usually, a secret is revealed or an event unfolds, in increments 1. mild 2. moderate 3. extreme, divided according to how much story the teller wants to include. In a cataclysmic series of events leading up to the end of the world, there is plenty of story to divide into seven acts. Upheavals like volcanic eruption - which the author may very well have witnessed personally and will certainly have heard described, as they're common in Italy - fit nicely into stage 2.
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Well ... that's what we're asking. It was, after all, the very basis of this thread, as definied by you in the opening post:

    Maybe this thread should be closed, since you appear to have satisfactorily answered your own question: no, they are not the same thing.

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    non sequitur. Did you post to the wrong thread?
     
  22. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    I thought it a reasonable response to
     
  23. Orinda Fernandez Registered Member

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    Understanding bible verse depends. Verses does not mean the same for each person.
     

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