Dr. Atkins Diet

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  1. Eman Resu Registered Senior Member

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    My Guru ... Is that 3 lunches and 3 dinners per day? I'm wondering ...

    I've said before that I was turned-on to Hulda Clarke's books. She's not revered but I do like some of her points ... especially about the pastas and breads. That stuff should be in STRICT moderatin (too many sugars and too much mold).

    While the Star chick says carbs are the body's fuel I think at the same time the body will take from the fat the carbohydrates it needs to complete the process (protein-carb balance).

    Now back to my beer ...
     
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  3. kmguru Staff Member

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    Why not? as long as they are bite size? da??

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  5. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    Before even reading about Atkin's diet, I was on a high protein,
    mid-low carb and low fat diet; basically just eating 2 sandwiches
    a day and 3 protein shakes: I lost fat, never felt bloated and had
    lots of energy. I think modifying it so that your intake of fat is
    higher and carbs lower is genius: it forces your fat stores to be
    used as energy sources...
     
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  7. Xevious Truth Beyond Logic Registered Senior Member

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    Don't forget we have canines... we are designed to eat meat, no matter what someone says about amino acids and the like. You don't get teeth like that according to Darwin without having meat in your diet. Of course, that is only four of the teeth we have, the rest are more for veggies, fair enough.

    I look at food this way: WE made preservatives. WE made refined sugar.

    Nature grows veggies, cattle, and grains. Unfortunetly, we have no clue what the diets of the early humans were like, or do we considering that the Mastadon is extict... and so are plenty of other animals?

    I eat tasty animals, I eat tasty plants, and I do not discriminate for the most part. If nature grew it, it isn't poisonous, and whatever it was isn't diseased, or ate dead animals, it is food. I eat it, I belch, and then I fart. Nature says "You're welcome."
     
  8. ~The_Chosen~ Registered Senior Member

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    Make sure you take your vitamins and all that. Use common sense when you go on this diet.

    My brother went on it and lost 40 pounds in about 3 months. IT WORKS, no exercising also. He graduated from Cornell with a BS in nutrition.

    Dr. Atkins also graduated from Cornell Medical School

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    The way he died pisses me off.

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  9. kmguru Staff Member

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    Hitting your head on ice can kill you...accidents do happen even to famous people. But what pisses me off is people who peddle their brand of diet think Cr. Atkins is their prime enemy. Some even said that he died because of his diet!

    Atleast the guy was active and enjoying himself to the fullest. I have never seen so much opposition to a person who basically says don't eat junk food.

    Where these perceptions are coming from?
     
  10. crokett Registered Senior Member

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    I eat 5-6 meals a day but never more than about 400 calories/meal. I shoot for 2400-2500 calories a day. Many smaller meals is muhc better for your metabolism than a few large ones. Keeps your metabolism going all day, helpful if you are trying to lose weight. It also avoids the blood sugar spikes that make you feel tired after say lunch.
     
  11. *stRgrL* Kicks ass Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, but that doesnt mean its the healthy thing to do. Wearing corsets may force my mid-section to be thinner, but that doesnt mean the long term effects wont/cant be devasting.

    Here are a few cons:

    1. Poor Long Term Weight Control
    There is no metabolic magic in low-CHO diets. Those who continue to lose weight after the first week do so because they decrease calorie intake. This can occur because of decreased dietary variety. Greatly limiting the number of foods that people are allowed to eat, reduces their food and calorie intake. But a reduction in variety most often leads to boredom and cravings over the long run. One recent study showed that a high protein meal leads to a greater tendency towards binging of foods, high in sugar and fat, later in the day.

    2. Fainting
    Orthostatic hypotension, or a rapid drop in blood pressure when you go from lying down to standing, is caused by a loss of fluid and electrolytes and reduced sympathetic nervous system activity. Both of these occur when your body is deprived of CHO. This may result in dizziness or even fainting when you stand up quickly.

    *If you are really interested in loosing weight and keeping it off, you want to know the pros and cons of a Diet before you start it. The claims made by diet programs are not always true.

    3. Reduced Athletic Performance Don't let the wrong fuel mix run you down!
    Athletic performance is reduced on a low-CHO diet. Since the 1930's it has been known that a high-CHO diet can enhance endurance during strenuous athletic events. Mountain climbers and skiers should be warned that a ketogenic diet greatly increases the risk of mountain sickness.

    4. Keto breath
    Keto-breath can be described as a cross between nail polish and over-ripe pineapple. This is common for dieters who consume so few CHO that they put their bodies in ketosis. Your best bet for permanent weight loss and control, as well as good health, is twofold:
    1) increase the amount of fruits, vegetables, nonfat dairy products, whole grains and beans that you eat.
    2) eliminate calorie-dense foods such as cookies, sugary desserts, bagels, crackers, chips, fries, pizza, candies, etc. Research on people who have successfully lost a lot of weight and kept it off long term, shows that the vast majority succeeded by consuming a low-fat diet high in fiber coupled with regular exercise.

    *If weight loss and lowering your cholesterol is on your mind, then you want an effective diet to do both. A balanced diet and exercise is the best way to accomplish this. This diet should limit fats and concentrated sweets while increasing your daily activity. Popular Diets Do Not Always follow these guidelines. The information is about The Atkins Diet and other Low-Carbohydrate Diets which are unhealthy.

    5. Heart Disease Risk Increases
    Risk of heart disease is increased greatly on a low-CHO, low-fiber diet that is high in animal protein, cholesterol and saturated fat. All three raise serum cholesterol, particularly LDL or "bad" cholesterol. Elimination of high-CHO, high-fiber plant foods, that help lower cholesterol, compounds this problem. A high meat intake may excessively increase homocysteine levels and iron stores in the body. There is growing evidence that high levels of both may increase the risk of heart disease.

    6. Gout
    An excess of uric acid in the body causes gout. This excess can be caused by an increased intake of foods high in purines, which are broken down into uric acid in the body. Meat, poultry, nuts, seeds, eggs and seafood are all fairly high in purines. Elevated levels of uric acid in the blood may lead to needle-like uric acid crystals in joints.

    *Instead of following a Low-Carb or Atkins Diet, try a balanced diet. The DASH diet is balanced, includes the characteristics you want and increases your intake of vegetables. The DASH diet research has proven it controls hypertension, and helps to lower cholesterol. It can also be designed for healthy weight loss.

    Fruits and vegetables are not included in sufficient quantities in the Low-Carb diet. This is a very serious omission. There are many phytochemicals found in a healthy diet which includes a wide variety of fruits and vegetables. The phytochemicals play an important role in cancer prevention.

    7. Cancer Risk Increases
    Risk of many cancers is likely to increase when most fruits, vegetables, whole grains and beans are eliminated from the diet. The National Cancer Institute currently recommends, based on the bulk of scientific research, that you eat a plant-based diet that is high-fiber and low-fat.

    8. Osteoporosis
    Over time, excess protein intake, especially from animal sources, increases the loss of calcium in the urine which may contribute to osteoporosis.

    The DASH diet [Dietary Approaches to Stop Hypertension], has been shown to be of great effectiveness in combating this significant health risk. Fruits and Vegetable are a major ingredient in the dietary approach to fight the dangers of high blood pressure. They also help with weight control by taking the place of high fat - high sugar snack choices.

    9. Rising Blood Pressure with Age
    Blood pressure will likely increase with age on a typical low-CHO diet. In part, this is because a high-CHO, high-fiber diet includes more fruits, vegetables, whole grains and nonfat dairy products. This diet was shown to lower blood pressure most likely due to its higher content of key minerals such as potassium, calcium and magnesium. Also low-CHO diets do not restrict salt intake, the main reason blood pressure rises with age.

    10. Kidney Stones
    Both uric acid and calcium oxalate stones are more likely to form on a high protein, ketogenic diet than on a higher carbohydrate diet with more fruits and vegetables.

    Another thing, this diet clearly goes againts the FDA and the American Heart Institutes guidelines for a healthy body. Every guideline I have ever seen places grains, fruits and veggies at the bottom of the chart, with dairy and meat on the top. This diet is totally upside down. Yes, it works - is it safe? I doubt it.

    Heres a few sites:

    AHI

    FDA
     
  12. kmguru Staff Member

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    *stRgrL*

    Great post. Here are some more interesting stuff about protein:

    American Heart Association recommends soy for lowering cholesterol

    The U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) recently approved food labeling that makes health claims about soy protein in regards to offering protection against heart disease. The new regulation stipulates that, in order to make such a claim, food products must contain at least 6.25 grams of soy protein. That is based on the fact that the federal agency deems 25 grams per day of soy protein effective to potentially lower heart disease risk when combined with a low-fat diet.


    Now, in addition to the Food and Drug Administration’s stamp of approval, the American Heart Association is formally endorsing the same claim, following a rigorous review of 38 clinical studies that showed that soy protein in the place of animal-source protein decreased low-density lipoproteins (LDL) or “bad” cholesterol by up to 8%. This new recommendation is part of the “American Heart Association’s AHA Dietary Guidelines, Revisions 2000,” which were released in October. The recommendation states that eating 25 to 50 grams of soy protein per day can aid in reducing LDL cholesterol levels by 4% to 8%. More specifically, the advisory reports, the higher people’s baseline cholesterol levels, the more pronounced soy’s lipid-lowering effect. Results from the 38 clinical studies collectively indicated that daily soy consumption led to a 9.3% drop in total cholesterol levels, a 12.9% reduction in LDL cholesterol, and a 10.5% decrease in triglycerides.

    Among the studies reviewed, findings from Wake Forest University showed that the higher the concentration of isoflavone, the more effectively soy protein could decrease cholesterol levels [Arch Intern Med 1999 Sep 27;159(17):2070-2076]. The nine-week study put 156 healthy adults with cholesterol levels greater or equal to 140 milligrams per decliter (mg/dL) of blood, who were already on a standard cholesterol-controlling diet, on a soy protein diet containing one of four amounts of isoflavones (3-62 milligrams) or a milk protein placebo. Those who consumed the most isoflavones saw a 6% drop in LDL and a 4% decrease in total cholesterol. Subjects with the highest LDL levels (164 milligrams per deciliter mg/dl) who consumed 62 milligrams daily showed a 10% drop in LDL and a 9% decrease in total cholesterol.

    A six-month study of post-menopausal women who consumed 40 grams per day of soy protein containing either 56 or 90 milligrams of isoflavones or casein (a milk protein placebo) showed an 8.2% drop in non-HDL cholesterol and a 4.4% increase in high-density lipoproteins (HDL) or “good” cholesterol, compared to control subjects [Am J Clin Nutr 1998;68:545-551]. Similarly, another study of hypercholesterolemic men showed that six weeks of soy consumption resulted in significantly greater reductions in non-HDL cholesterol compared to casein control group subjects [Am J Clin Nutr 2000;71:1077-1089]. Lipid-lowering effects ranged from a 1.5% to 4.5% drop in non-HDL cholesterol with positive effects being proportional to consuming 20, 30, 40 or 50 grams per day of soy protein.

    Epidemiological data has already noted that Asian populations, which are known to consume as much as 55 grams per day of soy protein, have a lower incidence of cardiovascular disease than people who consume a typical Western diet and less than 5 grams per day of soy protein. The advisory also underlines the fact that scientific evidence supports the benefits of soy consumption specifically in conjunction with a diet low in saturated fat and cholesterol. The American Heart Association’s Nutrition Committee is also confident, after analyzing the many study findings, that soy protein does not have a cholesterol-lowering effect in adults with low to normal levels, which removes any fear of soy possibly decreasing levels to a dangerous point.
     
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    Body composition and hormonal responses to a carbohydrate-restricted diet.

    Volek JS, Sharman MJ, Love DM, Avery NG, Gomez AL, Scheett TP, Kraemer WJ.

    Human Performance Laboratory, Department of Kinesiology, University of Connecticut, Storrs, CT 06269-1110, USA.

    The few studies that have examined body composition after a carbohydrate-restricted diet have reported enhanced fat loss and preservation of lean body mass in obese individuals. The role of hormones in mediating this response is unclear. We examined the effects of a 6-week carbohydrate-restricted diet on total and regional body composition and the relationships with fasting hormone concentrations. Twelve healthy normal-weight men switched from their habitual diet (48% carbohydrate) to a carbohydrate-restricted diet (8% carbohydrate) for 6 weeks and 8 men served as controls, consuming their normal diet. Subjects were encouraged to consume adequate dietary energy to maintain body mass during the intervention. Total and regional body composition and fasting blood samples were assessed at weeks 0, 3, and 6 of the experimental period. Fat mass was significantly (P <or=.05) decreased (-3.4 kg) and lean body mass significantly increased (+1.1 kg) at week 6. There was a significant decrease in [/b]serum insulin (-34%), [/b]and an increase in total thyroxine (T(4)) (+11%) and the free T(4) index (+13%). Approximately 70% of the variability in fat loss on the carbohydrate-restricted diet was accounted for by the decrease in serum insulin concentrations. There were no significant changes in glucagon, total or free testosterone, sex hormone binding globulin (SHBG), insulin-like growth factor-I (IGF-I), cortisol, or triiodothyronine (T(3)) uptake, nor were there significant changes in body composition or hormones in the control group. Thus, we conclude that a carbohydrate-restricted diet resulted in a significant reduction in fat mass and a concomitant increase in lean body mass in normal-weight men, which may be partially mediated by the reduction in circulating insulin concentrations. Copyright 2002, Elsevier Science (USA). All rights reserved.
     
  14. kmguru Staff Member

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    More stuff:

    Solving the Diet Dilemma

    As carbohydrate-restricted diets become more popular, controversy rages about what is the proper diet for the management of heart disease, weight loss, and good nutrition. In a recent article called "Carbophobia", in the July/August issue of the newsletter of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, writer Bonnie Liebman denigrates and discounts many of the well-proven and documented advantages of a high protein, carbohydrate-restricted, insulin-regulating diet. While most of her criticism is aimed at Barry Sears's The Zone, she also attacks other popular diets: Thin Carbohydrate Addict's Diet.

    All this adds to the confusion about the proper diet. Not too many years ago, health experts urged everyone to slash the fat content of their diet in order to lose weight, lower their cholesterol, and avoid atherosclerosis. So people loaded up on carbohydrates in the form of pasta, bread, rice, potatoes, fruit, and fruit juices. They gobbled up low-fat brownies and all the other "diet" products that filled the supermarket shelves. They hailed low-fat dieting as the panacea for weight loss and good health.

    It soon became clear, however, that people were not losing weight: a government report appeared saying that in the last decade the percentage of overweight Americans increased from 25% of the population to 33%. Studies showed that about 95% of people who went on a diet and lost weight gained it all back in five years. The low fat diet might be right in theory - without question it was necessary to lower cholesterol and fight atherosclerosis - but in practice few people were able to take off weight and keep it off.

    Then articles began to appear with frequency in the medical journals from researchers found who found that many overweight people - as many of 75% of them - suffered from a condition called insulin resistance. For a number of reasons, these people had too much insulin in their blood, and they were at high risk for developing what came to be known as syndrome X: a cluster of factors that included obesity, high blood pressure, high triglycerides, and glucose intolerance. Scientists had known for years that these conditions occur together, and they now began to suspect that insulin resistance was causing the other conditions. For these people with insulin resistance, a diet high in carbohydrates made their bodies respond with intense cravings for more carbohydrates and with weight gain. These effects in turn made the insulin resistance worse and increased their risk factors for heart disease.

    More and more books on low carbohydrate dieting came on the market. The reason for their popularity was simple: for many people, the diets worked. Those who were insulin resistant found that for the first time they had a diet they could stick to - their intense cravings for food became a thing of the past.

    This now brings us to several questions that have fueled the recent controversy:


    Is a carbohydrate-restricted diet for everyone? One pair of eyeglasses does not fit all. A carbohydrate-restricted diet is correct for those people who are insulin resistant. We have to identify them and treat them appropriately.
    Those individuals who are on carbohydrate-restricted diets must maintain a low fat intake as well. A low fat diet is essential for everyone. The fats that they do consume should be monounsaturated. Saturated fat should be avoided as much as possible. One reason for the controversy surrounding carbohydrate-restricted diets is that some of them do not limit fat, not even saturated fat. They allow bacon and eggs for breakfast and all the steak you can eat for dinner. These diets often bring about weight loss, but they are not good for your heart health.
    Vegetables and a certain amount of fruits are extremely important. Because some vegetable and most fruits are high in carbohydrates, people on very low carbohydrate diets have to cut too much of these items. In my experience, these dieters tend to rebound intensively to a very high fat diet.
    The last important point: those who are not insulin resistant do well on a Mediterranean-type diet, which advocates very little meat, generous amounts of fruits and vegetables, monounsaturated fats such as olive and canola oil, and bread, pasta, grains and complex carbohydrates.
    The importance of low fat dieting and the relationship between insulin resistance, obesity and risk factors for heart disease are all well documented in the medical literature. These scientific conclusions, unlike anecdotal stories that we hear from people promoting some nutritional theories, rely on reviewing angiograms and other hard evidence, not just wishing that things will get better.
     
  15. kmguru Staff Member

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    More stuff from the net:

    What's Wrong With Pasta?

    When health conscious people embrace low fat cooking, they tend to cut back on the amount of meat they eat and substitute pasta and other carbohydrates for it. What's wrong with eating more pasta, bread, rice and potatoes? Plenty, if you are among the estimated 25 percent of the population that is considered insulin resistant. "Insulin resistance" will become the buzz words in the diet and nutrition fields in the coming years. For people with this condition, eating carbohydrates creates a craving for more carbohydrates. They gain weight and have difficulty losing it. It is estimated that 75 percent of overweight people are insulin resistant.

    A growing number of researchers are now acknowledging that one of the reasons so many diets fail - and we know that 95% of dieters gain back whatever weight they have lost within five years - is that we are not acknowledging the role of insulin in our diets. Persons who are insulin resistant have an imbalance in their body's levels of this hormone. When they eat carbohydrates more insulin than necessary is released into the blood. Too much insulin in the blood results in increased hunger and craving for carbohydrate rich food, increased fat storage in fat cells, and a decreased ability to remove fat from fat cells.

    But the weight problems of insulin resistant people are not the worst of it. Insulin resistance may set up a whole syndrome of serious health problems that put those who have this condition at highest risk for heart disease. Everyone who is overweight should have a glucose/insulin metabolism evaluation.

    Syndrome X

    Scientists have noted that insulin resistance is usually accompanied by high blood pressure, cholesterol abnormalities, high blood sugar, diabetes or a prediabetic condition, and central abdominal obesity. This group of disorders has been christened Syndrome X and people with the syndrome are the most likely to have heart attacks.

    Scientists have known for years that these disorders occur together, and but only recently have they come to believe that it may be insulin resistance that causes the accompanying conditions.

    Fighting Insulin Resistance

    But here is the good news. There are ways to reduce insulin resistance. Weight loss is the most important method of controlling the condition, and this should be done through a low fat, low carbohydrate, high protein diet. This means that in addition to the usual restrictions of a low-fat diet, one must also greatly limit the intake of sugar and starches. Foods that should be deaccentuated, in addition to pasta, are rice, potatoes, cereal, corn, peas, sweet potatoes, desserts, dairy products, meats, and fruit with a high sugar content. Items that are somewhat limited are bread and grains. It may at first glance seem as if there's nothing you can eat, but that is not the case. It does mean a diet of chicken, turkey, fish, non-starchy vegetables, legumes, and limited grains. For those who are insulin resistant, the diet is usually not that difficult to follow because they no longer have the food cravings they have experienced on other weight reduction programs. The diet should only be undertaken with the guidance of a physician, who will prescribe vitamins and minerals and evaluate other individual factors.

    Exercise Can Help

    Exercise is also important for the person who is insulin resistant. The lipid abnormalities that are typical for the syndrome often include low HDL levels and high triglycerides, conditions that accelerate the development of coronary artery disease even if total cholesterol is low, as is often the case among the insulin resistant. Not only does exercise help raise HDL levels and lower triglycerides, it will help lower the high blood pressure that is part of the syndrome.

    So What's Wrong With Pasta?

    The answer to the question "What's Wrong With Pasta?" is long and complex. For those who are not insulin resistant, the reply is probably nothing, so long as they remember that carbohydrates do have calories, and that a low-fat diet is not a license to eat as many sugars and starches as desired. For those who are insulin resistant, however, too much pasta and other carbohydrates sets in motion a chain of events that may begin with weight gain and then eventually lead to serious heart disease.

    Medical experts have come to understand that weight loss is a very complex and difficult problem. The relationship of insulin and weight loss is a major finding that will come into the forefront even more in future research. Investigators are trying to learn why is it so prevalent to have not only obesity, but also high blood pressure and atherosclerosis along with insulin resistance. The following hypotheses have been suggested:


    Insulin, acting as a growth factor, produces proliferation of the components of the arterial wall to initiate or aggravate atherosclerosis. In addition, this growth factor may also act on the smaller blood vessels, thus contributing to hypertension.
    Excess insulin also promotes the renal tubular absorption of sodium, that is, it makes a person retain salt. In addition, it stimulates the sympathetic nervous system, producing a rapid heart rate and vasoconstriction or tightening of the blood vessels. Therefore, it further contributes to hypertension.

    The excess insulin promotes the liver's production of VLDL (very low density lipoprotein), which results in depressed fat clearance.

    As more and more research accumulates in the medical literature on insulin resistance, the popular media have begun to take an interest in it, particularly its implications for weight loss. I have recently appeared on America's Talking with Carole Martin and Channel 12 News with Patty Anne Brown to discuss insulin resistance, particularly the role of carbohydrates in the diet. The overwhelming response to these shows indicates that people very much need help with weight loss.

    Each day we are learning more about how insulin resistance, weight loss, and cardiovascular disease are interconnected. The Wellness Center is now gearing up for an all out assault on weight problems. We are taking a multi-disciplinary approach with a program individualized for each patient that takes into consideration many factors.

    Recent research has shown a 30% increase in the number of overweight people in just the last decade. I believe that physicians must now take a more proactive role in working with their patients to address this problem.
     
  16. kmguru Staff Member

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    Collected excerpts from FDA site:

    More than 60 percent of U.S. adults are either overweight or obese, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC). While the number of overweight people has been slowly climbing since the 1980s, the number of obese adults has nearly doubled since then.

    Obesity in America has risen at an epidemic rate over the past two decades. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, 35 percent of the adult U.S. population (ages 20 to 74) is overweight. In that same population, the number of obese people--those who have an excessively high amount of body fat in relation to lean body mass--nearly doubled from about 15 percent in 1980 to an estimated 27 percent in 1999.

    Losing weight:

    How do they do it?

    These successful losers report four common behaviors, says Wing. They eat a low-fat, high-carbohydrate diet, they monitor themselves by weighing in frequently, they are very physically active, and they eat breakfast. Eating breakfast every day is contrary to the typical pattern for the average overweight person who is trying to diet, says Wing. "They get up in the morning and say 'I'm going to start my diet today,' and they eat little or no breakfast and a light lunch. Then they get hungry and consume most of their calories late in the day. Successful weight losers have managed to change this pattern."

    KMG says: That is great using a High-Carbohydrate diet. Now wait a minite, what is this?--->


    The number of people diagnosed with diabetes has increased more than sixfold from 1.6 million in 1958 to 10 million in 1997, according to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta. Today, some 16 million people have the disease--making it a leading cause of death in the United States--yet 5 million don't know they have it. And nearly 800,000 new cases of diabetes are diagnosed each year.

    There is no cure for the disease, and the resulting health complications from poorly controlled diabetes are what make it so frightening. Consistently high blood sugar levels can, over time, lead to blindness, kidney failure, heart disease, limb amputations, and nerve damage. In fact, diabetes is the leading cause of new cases of blindness in adults between the ages of 20 and 74, and it accounts for 40 percent of people who have kidney failure. Cardiovascular disease is 2 to 4 times more common among people with diabetes, and is the leading cause of diabetes-related deaths. The risk of stroke is also 2 to 4 times higher in people with diabetes, and 60 percent to 65 percent have high blood pressure.

    KMG says: Is there a connection between high carb diet resulting in insulin resistance going into no cure diabetes?
     
  17. machaon Registered Senior Member

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    Diets are only a facet.

    Almost ANY diet will work. I think that a diet will supplement an rigorous excercise program, not the other way around. Diet all you want, but until one realizes that there is no substitute for busting ones ass at the gym, there will probably be no real lasting change. Is it hard? Why yes, it is. Of course if one is trying to overcome the fact that they are not as genetically gifted as Arnold S. or Olivia Newton John, then I would suggest turning to alcohol.
     
  18. kmguru Staff Member

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    Time for Gene Therapy....then couch potatoes can be like Arnold too...

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    Carbohydrates that we eat make our blood glucose (sugar) rise. To utilize the carbohydrates and lower the blood sugar, insulin opens the doors of the body's cells to glucose circulating in the blood. The glucose enters the cells and is used as the cells' fuel for energy. Insulin binds to a spot on the cell surface called a receptor. Likened to a lock and key, insulin is the key that opens up the lock (receptor) so that glucose can pass through the door into the cell. Using this analogy in type 1 diabetes, the keys have been stolen (no insulin is made by the pancreas). In type 2, the door won't open fully even with the right key (insulin resistance).
    (Source: Christopher D. Saudek, Richard R. Rubin, and Cynthia S. Shump. The Johns Hopkins Guide to Diabetes. Baltimore: The Johns Hopkins University Press, 1997.)
     
  20. Xerxes asdfghjkl Valued Senior Member

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    Glad you like Almonds, KM. THey're a very healthy food.

    I'm compelled to respond since we're getting into the dangers of carbohydrates. When in reality, only the heavy starches deserve it. Basically, you're info was totally right about the pasta's. Pure starch pollysaccharides. You could boil them for 10 years, and they would never fully break down (no kidding.) Same thing goes with your body. They trigger a huge release of insulin, and you eventually you get the dreaded disease. As a matter of fact, one in three people of todays generation is expected to get.

    Right after the new food pyramid had been released about 20 years ago, the rate of diabetes skyrocketed. The reason - people ate their carbs alright, but they
    a) Didn't exercise properly.
    b) Ate things like pasta/bagels which are far worse than most candies.

    Some carbs are good, some are bad. What's important is to consume the least complex ones, eat your vegetables, and GET FIBRE. Although most people choose not to, since....ummm it causes undesirable effects. I'm sure you know what I'm talking about, KM

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    The point of this all -----------
    What's important is the kinds of foods you eat. Not necessarily what's in their chemical structures. Almost all foods have carbs in em, amino acids, and everything else. Carbs are great, fat is great, and so are all the other nutrients. We're blessed to have these things - and yet, it's killiing us. THat's pretty pathetic if you ask me. Why?? The answers real simple. People always look at food negatively. Like a poison that makes you fat and ugly. If we take away this mindset and instead worry about balance and healthy thought (which is arguably more important,) then the problem will go.

    I remind you - Similar problems can result from all sorts of diets. Specific diets, anything we're not meant for, throw your body out of homeostasis - and it's that alone that causes ugliness and bad health.

    So yeah, all these health problems will vanish if we just ate properly, and exercised. Rain, sleet or shine. And then we'll have other things to worry about. Hacuna Mata. Amen

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    Oh yeah - GET YOUR FIBRE!!!
     
  21. kmguru Staff Member

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    Hi Elbaz:

    You are right on every count. Several years ago, I was in China and ate what else - Chinese food. After going back and forth for 3 months, I developed rectal bleeding. I got scared and went to the doctor. He knew right away what was wrong but to make sure (@$@$) he ran a battery of quite unpleasant tests! And finally pronouced to cut back on fiber intake. It seems that the real Chinese food in China had 10 to 50 times more fiber than American food and too much shocked my body. He did say, if everyone in America could eat that way, he may go out of business.

    I wonder the quality of traditional Jewish food - if there is such a thing these days. May be we should start a chain of restaurants that serves the right type of foods.
     
  22. ~The_Chosen~ Registered Senior Member

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    Atkins diet works, period. Cut the crap.

    Check it out: http://atkinscenter.com/

    Clinical Trial Validates the Atkins Thesis

    New research on Atkins diet challenges 30 years of nutritional dogma

    When it first came out, it when against all types of "beliefs" just how Galileo was against orthodoxy. Now as more research is being done the Atkins Diet is being validated slowly.

    Also it's common sense. I think everyone has taken Biology.

    Your body goes in this order to draw it's energy:

    1) Carbs
    2) No carbs then to fat
    3) no fat then to proteins

    Why do you see VERY HUNGRY people who are starved in Africa with tummies sticking out?! Check the biology behind it, the body starts using up its proteins for energy, since all of the fat reserves are gone, but as the stomach acids break it down a certain gas is released (forgot what it was called) and causes the stomach to "inflate."

    Fat is simply "stored" energy. And it makes SENSE that if you don't eat carbs then your body will tap into all the fat and use that up resulting in a perfect diet plan

    My brother majored in nutrition at Cornell University and he explained in alot better than I have, he's been on it for a year and lost a LOT of weight and he has NO HEALTH PROBLEMS.

    So you skeptics should research alot more and if you are ignorant of biology then you better study it.

    Nuff' said.

    High protein diets are bad for you if you have a combination of fat/carbs. Your body will use up your carbs left and carbs give ALOT of energy THEN to your fat and protein.

    Maybe I'll talk with my brother and he'll explain more, meanwhile the criticism of the Atkins diet is only a result of ignorance. Sounds too good to be true?

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    Give it a try! Use common sense, MANY have tried it and I've heard of COUNTLESS success stories and the LONG TERM EFFECTS have not been absolutely determined yet, strgryl.

     
    Last edited: May 8, 2003
  23. ~The_Chosen~ Registered Senior Member

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    On the atkins diet:

    1) You cannot drink soda, it has carbs and sugar! My brother ONLY drinks diet, 0 calories
    2) No rice, no pasta, no milk, no ice cream, no carbs PERIOD, if you eat carbs your body will use that as energy first then to the fat, don't want that
    3) Take VITAMIN pills, don't just eat ONLY meat, eat a variety of things just try to stay away from carbs as much as possible, you can eat salad and many other things. If it didn't work for you then you are doing something wrong. You don't know how to go on the atkins diet, so don't blame the diet.
    4) NO SUGARS, hence diet soda, my brother uses Splendor for sugar, it is real sugar but they modify the receptor on the sugar molecule so it can't be "recognized" by the body, amazing stuff, but expensive and well-worth it!
    5) More stuff to it, probably ask my brother since he is the biology/nutrition expert compared to me and most people, if not all, on this forum.
     

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