The Quran is a more violent book than the Bible

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  1. PetriFB Registered Senior Member

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  3. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    They are both pretty violent. I don't think it matters which is worse. If some sick bastard wants to use religion as an excuse for violence he can go to either book and find amble excuses for acting out his violence.

    Most people (christian, jew and muslim) want to live a peaceful life. They tend to concentrate on the good in their holy writtings and shrug off the crazy shit.
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    A fair conclusion from both studies is that they are both very violent. Which is incrementally more violent than the other doesn't seem like an important distinction.
     
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  7. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    What is the implication that one is more violent? Does it mean anything?

    Can we assume that your stance is that a book that contains more violence as part of its stories is thus promoting more violence as a rule?

    Trainspotting is a very dark film, rife with violence and drugs - but it sure-as-shootin' ain't glorifying heroine addiction. You'll come away from it never wanting to do heroine.

    Two words: cautionary tale.
     
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    "Adam made love to his wife Eve, and she became pregnant and gave birth to Cain. She said, “With the help of the Lord I have brought forth a man." Later she gave birth to his brother Abel. Now Abel kept flocks, and Cain worked the soil. Now Cain said to his brother Abel, “Let’s go out to the field.” While they were in the field, Cain attacked his brother Abel and killed him."-Genesis 4

    Can you get anymore violent?
     
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  9. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    You have to keep in mind the differences in culture from when these books were written and the culture of modern times. Violence was much more prevalent and hard to control on a societal level in Antiquity.

    Even between the Old and New Testaments there lays some five centuries of social and political change. The NT is markedly less promotional of violence than the OT, because they were crafted in entirely different contexts. The Old Testament is a descriptive narrative of the Jewish people's mythical history, not unlike the corpus of Greek myth; violence and barbarity were just a fact of life, and it seems to be describing moreso than condoning violence, and where it is condoning violence it is not being very much different than any other society at the time. The New Testament, on the other hand, functions more as a guidebook to civil disobedience fused with the heroic narrative of a particular figure, and as such seems to disavow most forms of violence as either pointless or just making it worse for those following its propositions. When we get to the Quran, we find a narrative much more along the lines of the Old Testament, having to do with the struggles of the Arabs to unite and expand, with elements similar to the New Testament in that it concerns the personal struggle of a specific person (Muhammad); it deals with violence, as with the OT, in a more descriptive manner than prescriptive.
     

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