killing grass

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  1. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    What is in dog urine that kills grass
     
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  3. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    It does?
     
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  5. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    You must live in a concrete area . Point I wanted to bring my dog Malmude pisses in my grass and my grass grows does not gets yellow it gets green and bushy while other dogs kill the grass
     
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  7. Edont Knoff Registered Senior Member

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    I think it's a question of amount and concentration. In lower doses dog pee acts as fertilizer and helps the plants grow. In high doses it hampers the plants ability to draw water from the soil (a high salt concentration in the soil has the same effect) so that plants actually die from lack of water (even if the soul is humid enough).

    Fertilizer effect vs. osmotic water transfer.

    If the fertilizer effect wins, your grass is doing fine.
    If the osmotic effect hinders the roots to draw water from the soil, the grass will die.
     
  8. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I have cats. But the salt makes sense.
     
  9. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I agree with the statement concentration of fertiliser . At the same time I mentioned my dog Malamute breed . He drinks a lot of water daily and pees a lot . I just wandered if some other person have similar experience , with a dog that drinks a lot of water and their urine is not harmfull
     
  10. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    I haven't had any trouble with dog urine, even back in the days when we had eight dogs in a rather small yard.

    But what WILL kill your lawn is dog FECES. Most people feed their dogs cheap food, which is loaded with herbicides and insecticides that kill the organisms that a healthy lawn needs for growth, or even survival.

    Make sure your dog food has no poisons and you'll have a fine lawn--and probably a healthier dog, too.
     
  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That's not exactly a controlled experiment, it's not comparing apples to apples.

    Your dog goes in a different place. Many things could be different about that place compared to where other dogs go - sunlight, irrigation, soil makup, etc.

    Other dogs probably all gang up on a few places (that's what they do).

    You'd have to do a controlled experiment: side-by-side plots, with equal doses of different dogs.
     
  12. timojin Valued Senior Member

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    I am not saying I did an experiment . Now , My dog is the only one in my yard I see where he pee in those spots the grass grows higher and greener . Now I have an other property in town were good neighbors walk their dog on the sidewalk and their dog does not pee on the concrete but on the grass, and the grass turn yellow, The difference I see is the soil and different dog , beside I see my neighbors and their dogs and the grass, The only question I had . I have a Malemute and he consume a lot of water, does any body have similar experience
     
  13. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    Try pissing on the grass yourself. Measure your urine's pH, then follow the dogs around.

    Chart their urine's pH, photograph the pissed-on areas, and sample the sites. Demonstrate a correlations, submit a paper...

    Or just get a fucking grip.
     
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  14. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I know. I'm simply pointing out that trying to draw a conclusion from your observations would be somewhat hasty.

    But it would be fun to do such an experiment.

    A first step, before even considering the grass, would be to examine the colour of your dog's urine. Is it very pale or colourless?
     
  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Reported for being a dick.
     
  16. Dr_Toad It's green! Valued Senior Member

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    How does it taste?

    Good God. Do you have a problem getting your medications?

    Dave. BFD. You might benefit from another view as well.

    Edit: Trolling is OK for idiots, hm?

    Edit1: Don't you get tired of the bullshit, too?
     
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  17. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    well...
    http://healthypets.mercola.com/sites/healthypets/archive/2013/11/11/dog-urine-ph.aspx

    http://chemistry.about.com/od/biochemistry/f/What-Is-The-Chemical-Composition-Of-Urine.htm

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urine


    also note, this first link is for "dogs" but not necessarily for all canine, as there can be subtle differences in types (like wolves etc) - of course, i am assuming also that you know the difference between urinating and "marking territory"....

    Also note, the first link comes with tips to protect your lawn...
    Yep.
    Used to have Malamute, Shepherd, and Shep-Mal mixes among other types...
    just see my link above
    ... also note: for most pet questions there will be some type of site where you can ask a veterinarian. This is really far more preferable to getting advice like the above from
    DaveC426913 where he suggests an experiment... not that the idea doesn't have merit, mind you, if you are a bored retired former scientist living in a large area with your own land where you can actually take the time and effort.

    talk to the vet in your area or read up on some of the pet links where vets give answers... it is IMHO far more preferable to being trolled into doing an experimentwhen you have neither the time, inclination nor the experience. LOL
    ROTFLMFAO

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  18. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The dog is a subspecies of wolf, Canis lupus familiaris.

    There are few major differences between the two subspecies, but these include:
    • Dogs have developed smaller brains, since they began scavenging our leftovers instead of hunting, and even eating the vegetable-based feed that we have invented for them.
    • Dogs have a much weaker alpha instinct, which is important since the leader of almost every dog pack is a human. In places like India where dog packs without human masters run through the cities and rural areas, the packs tend to have as many as fifty members, and no one is really in charge. They seldom attack humans (unless they're rabid), who respond by treating them more-or-less kindly. A popular dog was seriously injured in the Mumbai terrorist attack, and the people in his territory (many of whom barely had enough to eat) raised a fortune to pay a veterinarian to nurse him back to health. He survived and became a symbol of India's resilience.
    • Dogs have many aspects of neoteny: the retention of infant behaviors into adulthood. Most of them are behaviors that baby wolves lose as they approach one year old, such as barking, roughhousing and chasing sticks, precisely the behaviors that humans regard as "cute."
     
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  19. Truck Captain Stumpy The Right Honourable Reverend Truck Captain Valued Senior Member

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    yeah... i didn't think it was important to go any further.
    most people don't care for the info (you know like: inoculations for dogs don't always work on wolves... etc) and usually find it distracting...

    but thanks for sharing!
    now THIS is AWESOME!
    (EDIT: not it getting hurt, or how it got hurt - but the community coming together to help it and then being a symbol! that is awesome IMHO ... gonna go look for it on google when i get more time!)
    wolves have been known to retain a lot of "playful" behaviours after a year (depending) ...
    they've also been documented playing with other animals in the wild (like Ravens - see also http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4398859/pdf/emss-62766.pdf )
     
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  20. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    But will it kill blackberry thickets? I need suggestions.
     
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