chinglu hates the Axiom of Infinity

arfa brane said:
Can you translate what the first expression says, into English? That could give me more confidence that a) you understand Kunen's book, and b) you can teach anything to anyone.

Or not.
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no idea what you are talking about.

and since you did not even know this argument, it is clear you do not understand the fundamentals of actual infinity.

Now, here is the task i am assigning to you.

demonstrate Kunen's argument since you are claiming here you understand Kunen's book.

i will accept your surrender after you fail.
 
chinglu said:
be more specific.

then show why this is not kunen's argument if that is your claim.
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You are so wrong, it's painful. You're not even asking the right questions. You, like a lot of cranks, use citations that in no way support your position.
 
Can chinglu translate, into English words, the first expression in his copy-paste from Kunen's book, as I asked? Instead of claiming he has no idea what I'm talking about.

Axiom of Infinity- ∃x(0∈x∧∀y∈x(S(y)∈x))

Then we can all see what he understands and maybe get into why he thinks we don't. Or not.
(yes, I know what it says myself, because I've learned a bit of logic)
 
PhysBang said:
You are so wrong, it's painful. You're not even asking the right questions. You, like a lot of cranks, use citations that in no way support your position.
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OK, i wrote my proof now write yours.

let's see how that all works out.
 
arfa brane said:
Can chinglu translate, into English words, the first expression in his copy-paste from Kunen's book, as I asked? Instead of claiming he has no idea what I'm talking about.

Axiom of Infinity- ∃x(0∈x∧∀y∈x(S(y)∈x))

Then we can all see what he understands and maybe get into why he thinks we don't. Or not.
(yes, I know what it says myself, because I've learned a bit of logic)
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this issue is can you prove any set that satisfies infinity contains all natural numbers.

in that you have failed.

how is that?
 
chinglu said:
this issue is can you prove any set that satisfies infinity contains all natural numbers.
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Yes, but that's that issue.
Another issue is, can you explain the first expression you posted from Kunen's book, in words?

This is actually a common kind of question undergrads are given in tests. It's to check, I suppose, how well they understand notation. How about you? You want to look like you've failed?
 
arfa brane said:
Yes, but that's that issue.
Another issue is, can you explain the first expression you posted from Kunen's book, in words?

This is actually a common kind of question undergrads are given in tests. It's to check, I suppose, how well they understand notation. How about you? You want to look like you've failed?
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prove your answer
 
chinglu said:
prove your answer
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I would, but right now I'm being audited, so . . .

Maybe you can answer the question. In case you missed it, the problem is for you to describe the first expression you posted from Kunen's book.
Since, by posting it you implied that you understand it. But I think maybe you just posted something you don't understand. You could prove me wrong, but I think my audit will probably finish, hell will freeze over, the sky will crack open and a hand reach out, before you prove anything.
 
arfa brane said:
I would, but right now I'm being audited, so . . .

Maybe you can answer the question. In case you missed it, the problem is for you to describe the first expression you posted from Kunen's book.
Since, by posting it you implied that you understand it. But I think maybe you just posted something you don't understand. You could prove me wrong, but I think my audit will probably finish, hell will freeze over, the sky will crack open and a hand reach out, before you prove anything.
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what is it exactly you would like me to explain?

I will do that.
 
chinglu said:
what is it exactly you would like me to explain?
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Well, perhaps you can explain something. Why are you asking me to explain a question I've asked several times?
Is my last effort somehow impenetrable? Read post 71 carefully, see if you can spot the part where I ask you to describe something, in words.
 
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