A four dimensional universe

Discussion in 'Astronomy, Exobiology, & Cosmology' started by trevor borocz johnson, Aug 29, 2016.

  1. river

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    Look at time this way ;

    You have this 5km diameter beach ball which crystal clear and you are on the outside of this ball watching everything that is taking place ; you focus on Earth and notice that they ; measure the time of there local space; the rest of the Universe carries on ; that being can see what we are doing ; and it makes sense , locally .

    But at the same time everything out side our Earth does not change .

    Time and the order of time ; the hours , seconds etc. Is ancient. It is thousands of years old , based on the movement of the Earth and the movement of the Earth relative to the stars . The zodiac etc.
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    What makes you think that "everything outside does not change".

    Was once. Not now.
    And regardless of what it's "based on" what you're talking about is the unit of measure, not time itself.
    This is the equivalent of claiming that that "distance in space is different/ non-existent" because the mile was based on the human stride.
     
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  5. river

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    It does which is my point .


    What would be " time its self " ?
     
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  7. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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  8. rpenner Fully Wired Valued Senior Member

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    It is fairly clear that the universe outside of Earth is a dynamic, changing place re with understood phenomena like supernovae and weather patterns driven by the same physics we have locally.

     
  9. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    If your point is that things do change why did you actually write "everything out side our Earth does not change"?

    The dimension.
     
  10. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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    the watch used in the meeting place experiment represents light time as it would slow down as you approach light speed. How would you build a sound watch that goes backwards the faster over the speed of sound you travel?
     
  11. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    No it doesn't.
    "Light time" is meaningless.

    I wouldn't.
    Mainly because I'm not thick.
    "Sound watch" is also meaningless.
     
  12. trevor borocz johnson Registered Senior Member

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    True. I guess if you think about it hard like you have it makes more sense that it would be a thing that has to take away from the reason I came on today to check what if you said the smarte thing alreaddy cause it um was make any sense to do that? and I really want to just show with the most best of sincerity that it good make sense like dwids good every sentence make. that he does.
     
  13. Daecon Kiwi fruit Valued Senior Member

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    what is this i dont even
     
  14. Dinosaur Rational Skeptic Valued Senior Member

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    Some of the thoughts/opinions expressed here are so weird, it seems absurd to argue with the Posters.

    It is like a 7th day Adventist arguing with a Buddhist or a Catholic. Deeply held notions cannot be refuted using logical or illogical other arguments.
     

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