Why does the government hide UFO's?

Like wise where you get your information is a fraud .

 

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Malin is a problem . He is not to be trusted .

 

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The author of this book river has been claiming as "his bible of truth" is a
John-Brandenburg
http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/John_Brandenburg
John E. Brandenburg is a plasma physicistwho went somewhat off the rails in 2012 and started proclaiming that he saw clearevidence of a thermonuclear war on Mars in the distant past. This off-beat idea attracted the attention of woo-peddlars and gave a mighty boost to sales of his books—both the non-fiction books and the science fictionbooks that he wrote using the nom de plumeVictor Norgarde.


https://pseudoastro.wordpress.com/tag/john-brandenburg/
At the risk of all my blog posts of 2016 – so far – seeming to be about certain individuals … here’s another one. John Brandenburg. For those who haven’t followed my blog or don’t remember this individual, see this post for the relevant information for this post. For his “science,” see this podcast.

One of the more unique things about Dr. Brandenburg among pseudoscientists is that one of his major claims of evidence that his ideas are correct is that he claims he presents at scientific conferences, and no one challenges him. I have heard him make that claim multiple times in practically every interview I have heard him give.

As I was mapping craters on the moon last night, I was listening to Coast to Coast AM from December 29, 2015. Dr. Brandenburg was on, and during the first hour, around 26 minutes in, he claimed that he was at the premier planetary science conference in 2015 and presented his results. See first link in this blog post. In that post, I documented his attendance (he was at his poster for 15 minutes) and VERY few people came by because he showed up almost at closing time and took over a half hour to slowly set up his presentations.

On C2CAM, however, he claimed that he presented his work, “held fort,” and “no one contradicted me.” And that “finally,” a scientist asked, “did they do it themselves?” (apparently referring to Dr. Brandenburg’s thesis that Mars was nuked).

Now, it is entirely possible that someone asked Dr. Brandenburg that during the very few minutes of conversation I did not hear. However, based on my observations, I sincerely doubt anyone was serious, if it happened at all. As for having “held fort” and “no one contradicted me,” if we want to go with the analogy of holding a fort against an attack, Dr. Brandenburg’s actual attendance record was closer to a snowball fight where people build forts, no one actually attacks, and John showed up just before everyone was going inside for hot cocoa because it was cold. As for no one contradicting him, perhaps it’s because they recognized pseudoscience when they see it, and because he showed up so late, he had literally less than a dozen people pass by and look at his work.

This isn’t the first time I’ve documented revisionist history, however, so far as Dr. Brandenburg’s recollection of his attendance at LPSC; see this post and search for “Brandenburg” and you’ll see what I mean.

Why am I writing about this? Well, in the faster and leaner attempt for this blog this year (also for me personally, which is why I need to get back to the elliptical), I’m going to be writing these short posts based on things I hear while listening to various podcasts and radio shows that I use for material for this blog and podcast, anyway.

If you make a claim, it’s fair game for investigation. If your claim contradicts a documented record, it’s fair game for me to point that out. If I’ve investigated your claims before, I may preferentially choose episodes of audio files to listen to where you speak.

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The thing is pad NOBODY can explain their book in a short radio program .

I heard the program and bought the book . There I got the full context of what John was referring to .

I commend you on your open mindedness , but lets discuss this further when you read the book .

There is NO WAY around the fact that reading the book gives one a deeper understanding and context to their thinking and evidence , to their conclusions ; there just isn't , period .

 

Sorry river, I aint going out of my way to read his book.
Reasons being is that my knowledge of reading the data as gathered by orbital probes and landers is that while Mars was certainly at one time, long ago, a different planet, and far wetter with surface Oceans, there is absolutely no evidence to show that life if it did exist on Mars, was anything other then microbrial. Today, no evidence of present life exists.
And of course to believe that there was an Atomic war raged on Mars by Alien intelligence is beyond crazy.

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The same of course applies to the so called face myth.

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Ostrich in the sand pad .

You lack courage pad .

You have no idea what your on about pad , none .

 

Whatever river, whatever

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But please be aware of what everyone has been telling you.....

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To simply reject all the research, in favour of a fraudulent loon, [your favourite author] is plain buffoonery.

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You need to relise that by now I'm use to your buffoonery and of course your lack of courage .

 

I'm not rejecting the 40 odd years of research on Mars.

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You are.

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river, there are simply put, no signs of any sapient life ever having existed on Mars, much less anything technologically advanced...

 

Nice try pad . You know twisting things around .

But I have read the book ; I know better than your professed " knowing " of the 40yrs of Mars research .

Your a phoney pad .

 

So you read John's book have you ?

 

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Have you also read Rudolph the Red nosed Reindeer?

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Or Hansel and Gretel?

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Or maybe Sleeping Beauty

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Ignorrance is bliss for you pad .

 

It's a wonder that you and our other conspiracy theorist pushers are not afraid to get out of bed every morning with all this sinister, government supported agendas being purpetrated everywhere we look.

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And to believe that they have been conducting a nuclear war there, just makes the whole idea, well, you know....

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I don't have to... I've enjoyed, for quite some time, viewing the photographs of Mars taken by the various rovers and probes we (collective Human we) have sent there. Not one of them shows any of the byproducts expected of an advanced industrialized civilization. There should, at the very least, be some type of ruins left, especially without weather patterns and vegetation to overgrow and eventually consume them.

 

There in lies the problem

Of course you have to , the book is where the details lay.

The photos of Mars does not get into the chemistry of Mars but a minute fraction of the data sent back by all the probes sent to Mars .

 

All evidence was destroyed by the great war.
Alex

 

Not all evidence ; Cydonia face . and pyramids in close proximity to each other.

Besides the atmospheric chemistry of Xenon 219 .

 

Follow the money.
There would be more money in writing a book on thermo nuclear war on Mars than a book on legitimate science... There are more gullible folk who would buy such a book than rational folk I suspect.
Alex