Does time exist?

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  1. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    IMO, time exists, perhaps only as a perception (Ref. River) . . . . a lot of 'perceptions really exist, albeit some perceptions (e.g., ideas?) are physically intangible mental constructs. For example, travelling at >c does not (as far as we know!) exist, BUT the idea of travelling at >c DOES exist. If something must be physical to "exist" or "be" then we might be better off without the capacity to create ideas. Difficult to apply the Scientific Method here . . . isn't it? . . .when no physicallity (experimentally testable/falsifiable) is present! In such case, the argument may be best rendered by logic, IMO.
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    I guess I am claiming Humpty Dumpty rights here but none the less I feel the view of time not existing is correct

    Not only with TIME NOT existing,

    within the physicality of the Universe,

    but also the concept of time being able to

    PRODUCE any physical observable effects

    we might be better off without the capacity to create ideas

    Don't think so

    SiFi ideas are mostly great if frequently a bit over the top and casual with science and Harry Potter books and movies would be very dull

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  5. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    So . . . IYO, an idea does NOT exist? The story of Humpty Dumpty does NOT exist? The idea that the author had - of the Humpty Dumpty story . . . did NOT exist?

    I disagree . . . . . NONPHYSICAL "things" CAN indeed exist! Is an idea then nonexistent because it is not physical?
     
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  7. river

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    How does the non-existence of time , threaten your post ?
     
  8. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    Dunno', River . . . you tell me! . . . . IMO time DOES exist - as a perceived change in dimensional position of an observable. Time is the 'duration' (I know . . . begs the issue?) of the observed positional change, IMO, of course . . . . . . maybe like (limited math here!) an equation simultanaeously solved for t = (f dx) (f dy) (f dz)? . . . maybe vector-like . . . as I said . . . . dunno', but thanks for asking!!
     
  9. river

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    Time is the measurement of duration .
     
  10. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    I agree . . . in sequential 'ticks' of some device! . . . .the ticks may be arbitrarily set, but, to be meaningful to observers, they must be consistently spaced and convertible/scalable to other bases. IMO. of course!
     
  11. river

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    Then you think about the essence of duration , the essence of why duration is , the fundamental of why duration dynamics exists , between things .
     
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  12. river

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    Explain deeper
     
  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Is AGE

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  14. karenmansker HSIRI Banned

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    Will try later . . . but not tonight . . . .G'nite!
     
  15. river

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    Yes , age is another word for duration .
     
  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Hope you contact all the people who are responsible for organising dictionaries and notify them

    NONPHYSICAL "things" CAN indeed exist!

    They can't and don't

    Is an idea then nonexistent because it is not physical?

    Correct they are non existent

    If you find any which do physically exist I would appreciate 2 kg worth

    Lets put it this way

    The brain works on electrical and chemical actions

    Both can be monitored

    However while you can see the electrical flow and

    observe the active sections of the brains chemical reactions

    you cannot extract from either or in combination WHAT is being thought about

    Is it

    I'm hungry

    I need to go to the toilet

    Must pick up milk on the way home

    The nurse is cute I wonder if she is married

    I have a great idea for a new type of Harry Potter type book. I'm going to be rich

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  17. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    But TIME is NOT

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  18. river

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    No
     
  19. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    How is it possible to monitor something that allegedly does not exist?
    Clearly, it can interact with the real world, else it could not be monitored.

    Of course you can. Try this:

    "What are you thinking about?"
     
  20. river

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    Dave it would be appreciated if you would Number # the posts you are quoting from now on . So we can ALL read the context in which these quotes are from , from now on .

    Thanks
     
  21. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    ?
    What do you mean "number" them?

    In the quote header (where it says "Michael345 said:") the little up arrow is a direct link to the quoted post.

    That's the approved way of quoting.
     
  22. river

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    Not good enough .

    Take the number of the post so that anybody can go back to that post , easily .
     
  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I am using the provided and approved method for referencing a quoted post.
    Get with the program.

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