Israel, Palestine and the Arab/Israel Conflict

Interestig. Native Americans are mostly drunkards wo education in their reservations. Im not saying here that its not America's fault, and Im not saying that your idea would be unfair. But, not only are they unfit to lead the country, they are a minority (sad, America's fault too). You can never undo the past, AM, you cant undo the past.
Same goes for Israel, the land is rightfully belonging to Israily government, Palestinians need to adjust. Similar things happened all over the world, and for some reason other peoples arent going crazy blowing up everything that comes to sight.

there is a big difference bw right and righteousness, i never called everybody righteous, i only talked ab rights here.

If Palistinians spent more time on peaceful life and taking care of their own communities, their lives would have been better. Are you saying here we should all go and cry and beat heads against walls bc Palistinians arent capable of living normal lives and taking care of themselves by means of normal people?
Russian Jews have the same right to be there as other Jews, most adultl Jews in Israel come from other countries (news to you?) Yes there were children and parents in that night club.
You're right, there needs to be a victory there, a victory of one army over another, not one terrorist over unsuspecting civilians.

they're all suicidal; may be there is a shortage of psychiatrists?

 

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even if this horrific racist generalization would be Ok , I remember not so long ago Europeans were crawling around in caves , based on that :

Caveman aint fit either are they ?

In 1492 the Native Americans weren drunkards in reservations , please dont judge a peoples on how they turned out to be because of brutalization conolization and oppression .

But you can change the future

Dont think so , and HEY its just 55 damn years and the conflict aint over yet , and guess what Arabs aint Maya's .

Colonists need to get out

Hey if peoples are willing to live with opression and semi-slavery , I say all they need is good leadership and they start blowing things up . Oh btw in Africa its quite a bit worse , and how about central America ?

no right witthout righteousness
might=right theory is just gonna get u shot my friend , because those you enforce it one will agree with it and blow you up , so they are right .

They spent quite some time , but ofcourse all you know groups as hamas of is retalliations , thing is its quite difficult to have a life in a REFUGEECAMPT with 50 tanks in your back yard .

Im not saying you to do anything , you do what you please and so the effects will be as you cause them .

No news to me , simply the fatc that they are there doesnt make them having any right of being there , Russian Jews should get out along with their Ashekenazim brother hood , Europeans have no business in Arabia . And I would even agree with their staying if they can behave civilized and peacefully live in a DEMOCRATIC place for all peoples of the region . But they want their Jewish state that leaves 6 M Palestinians in camps and what not , so they can be driven into the sea as they fear so much .

Children have no business in a nightclub .

What ? Because they have the strongest army they are allowed to decide how the battle is fought . That they are unsuspecting shows their stupidity , Id suspect getting bombed if I would walk around in Israel , and they're not just damn civillians they're un-armed un-uniformed members of the army , they aint getting a damn time out its not the SUPER BOWL .

If you are willing to admit you stand for this might is right bullshit , dont come up with your silly rules when this is applyable and how exactly might should be gained , its ridiculous .

Are you kidding me ? Is there a psychiater in teh Gulag as well ? How about the gas-chambers ? How about Africa ?

Life isnt about life-insurance shrinks and entertainment my friend , thats disneyland .

 

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Re: Israel about to create Palestine.

Abdulla: Interesting lies coming all the way from Latvia, huh folks?

FYI: A nation that cannot even create a respectful democracy that the world can admire is now involved in the creation(?) of a democratic Palestine?

I think you're all wet Avatar for state sponsored terrorism and Apartheid, as practiced in Israel, has never created anything but deaths, tears and suffering

AbdullaTheBomber....

 

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what has Latvia to do with it? That's BBC :bugeye:

1. what's wrong with Israel?
2. Palestinians as all arabs don't understand and don't any want democracy, it's not their political tradition

 

1-It is anti-semitic in it political philosophy as it is herretic
2-It has acted anti-semitic as its concept is based on
*A cow in Palestine is more worth than a Jew in Poland
2-It is rooted in colonization
3-It is has coloniziation and occupation in its foreign policy
4-It is murdering in its political activity
5-It is racist within its national affairs

Yk-sZ

 

heretic? in what way?
anti semitic?

all others seem ok, but I'd like you to expand the upper two points

 

anti-semitism ?

heresy ?

Perhaps that will answer your questions . . . . . .

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Ys-sZ

 

I wouldn't believe anything Abdullathebomber or any other arab says about jews or antisemitism

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but ok - I'll consider it

 

Not a believer, huh Avatar?

Abdulla: So who cares, huh Avatar?

Just because the 3 blind Zionist mice on WWW.SciForums.com -- Avatar, Jerrek and AlanH refuse to face up to the truth about apartheidnik Israel doesn't mean that we do, huh?

According to MAD MAGAZINE Anti-Semitism is at the highest level since 1944 and the Zionists have no one to blame but themselves--and. of-course, Arik Sharon!

Meanwhile, Alfred E Neuman commented, "what me worry?"

3,000 years and it comes down to this, huh, Avatar?

1. Blaming the Palestinian's for the Zionists misery at being called world pariah's by everyone including the Pope!

2. Blaming AbdullaTheBomber for the Zionists current stroke of BAD LUCK around the planet and extending all the way to the outter reaches of the Milky Way, and on to the Andromeda Galaxy and still further yet - prhaps all the way to Black hole G-355 certainly isn't the fault of "yours truly," Abdulla." (Grinning).

3. Rabbi Murdoch Rupert missing his chance to buy DISH-TV certainly wasn't Anti-semitism -- it's the FCC doing its work amigos!

4. Sharon going from a 63XXX to 74XXXX Jockey Shorts!

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5. The shrinking birthrate among the impotent Zionist trespassers.

6. The increase in Jewish girls dating Arabs because of their (Viagra/Ecstasy-less) "staying" power" in the saddle, hahaha.

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AbdullaTheBomber....

Psst, hey Avatar, Jerrek and AlanH--AbdullaTheBomber is now doing DH (Designated Hitter) work "on the side" ( No pun intended, LOL! ), real cheap!

Inquire within......

 

White Wolf or White Rat?

Abdulla: SOS ( same ole Sh!t ), the Zionist trespassing low live's gets criticized for being the dirty rat that he is and he responds with his usual "We are the rightful owners of the land," dieherria of the mouth ).

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Whitewolf: "I heard that the terrorist organizations give money and houses to the familes if suicide bombs."

Abdulla: Well fella, who gives money to the families of the IDF thugs that get picked off by the Palys?

Abdulla: The US & Israel "evil twins," of-course!

Whitewolf: If they don't like it they can move elsewhere."

Abdulla: For a people that live each day as it comes--in their Kibutzim bomb shelters--because the Zionist trespassers are hated EVERYWHERE, you have a lotta gall making these comments Wolfie!

Whitewolf: "It doesn't justify what they do."

Abdulla: And what your murderous Zionist relatives in Israel and the territories do--is that justified Whitewolf?

Check out: WWW.RememberTheseChildren.org and then answer this question-K?

AbdullaTheBomber....

 

Zionists/Nazi's--Both cut from the same cloth.

Abdulla: Hey DARTH VATAR, you're all wet--you better go to Google and type in....

1. Ariel Sharon/massacres at Qibya.
2. The SLA/IDF massacres at Sabra & Shatila
3. The IDF massacres at Qana, Lebanon, April 18, 1996
4. The IDF massacres at Jenin, Ramallah and Rafah, April 2003
5. The IDF brutal murder of US citizen Rachel Corrie 03-16-2003
6. The IDF murder of foreign journalists and Int'l Peace activists in the territories
7. The IDF murder of innocent Palestinian children and infants.

See: WWW.RememberTheseChildren.org

8. The IDF's shooting at red crecent ambulances and the murder of Arab EMT's and ambulance drivers.

9. The dying of wounded IDF victims and about-to-be-born babies of Paly' citizens at check points.

GENOCIDE? DID YOU SAY "GENOCIDE!"

Oh, Nooooooooooooooooooooo!

Not Genocide!

Abdulla....

 

Get it into your head, to the victor belong the spoils. It has been so ever since man existed.

okay then, why isn't war legit yet? How hypocrit,...such a shame,...I wonder what the outcome would be,....I would probably die somewhere in the ruble of a ruïned city by a nuclear blast, or maby not,...I might be obliterated instantaniously by a hydrogen bomb,....

Let's be honest: This world is too small for all of human kind,....it's time for a holocaust, isn't it?

Oh you pussy, you don't share goals: we'll shoot you on the spot if you don't enlist and fight, don't mind surviving or else you'll be sued for war crimes!

Pffff,...

I'm sick of this world, luckely I've got a relationship going and she's helping me to lead an ignorant life,...but not too ignorant: she can refrain me from thinking myself to death.
Anything else I FEEL the pain of this world and it's people!!!!

AND I'M GETTING QUIET ANGRY AND FRUSTRATED!!!!AND I CAN'T HELP IT BEING CONNECTED!!!!WHY ARE YOU HUMANS DOING THIS TO ME!!!!AAAAAARH!!STOP IT!!

 

fukushi don't go all fucking postal now, it is norm in your kind when get all frustrated u start killing your own. So stop you focking frustration.

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Ariel Sharon: "A lifetime credo of killing unarmed civilains."

Ariel Sharon: "A lifetime credo of killing unarmed civilains."


As one sees photos of an adolescent Ariel Sharon back in Russia, some 70 years ago, one has to wonder how a normal looking child, with normal looking parents and siblings, can grow up to be a world class mass murderer, A REBEL WITHOUT A JUSTIFIABLE CAUSE. What have his parents, friends and aquaintences or even his enemies input into a child's psych that he grows up with the profile of a serial killer hell bent on using the political atmosphere of the day to become a "hero" doing what people are normally sent to the gallows for.

While the Jewish owned and controlled US media has run an innumerable number of "SPECIALS" on mass murderers like Herr's Adolf Hitler, Adolf Eichman, Himmler, Dr. Mengele and Stalin, Tojo, Pol Plot [See: Why are war Criminals always on the losing side of a war, elsewhere onSciforums] and now Papa Saddam Hussein (Note: Interestingly enough, the massacre of an alleged 3.4 million Vietnamese civilians in the 1970's produced NO AMERICAN MASS MURDERERS

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). The Steven Spielburg's of America have somehow never "quite" been able to stomach the idea of revealing the length and breath of the life and times of the bloodiest living Zionist Jew in the history of apartheid Israel.

Read & Weep:

WWW.Informationclearinghouse.info/article4652.htm

By: Whirlwind....

 

That's a pretty one-sided view, that same author writes nothing about Palestinian violence and mass murder, I guess all arabs are saints.

 

Whirlwind responds....

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Can you name "one" Palestinian (Arab) that has murdered 28,000 innocent civilians (I'll settle for 1,000) and left another 500,000 maimed, wounded and homeless as Ariel Sharon (and Menechem Begin, another LIKUDNIK mass murderer) did in Israel's invasion of Lebanon, summer of 1982? (We'll skip the IDF sponsored massacres at Sabra, Shatila and especially Sharon's Force-1 guerrilla force massacres at Qibya (and 400 other Arab villages and Mosques) and, of-course, the IDF/SLA Israeli financed torture prison at KHIAM, in the old "Israel Self Defense Zone" in Southern Lebanon abandoned in July 2000, OK?

Note: Goto Google: and type in "Khiam, IDF/SLA torture prison" and grow wise(er).

Name the Arab killer and I'll treat you to a half dozen Kosher chicken tacos and a 6-pack of ice cold Corona!

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Psst, compared to Sharon, you're right, they are saints! (I mean, how many Arabs traveled to Europe circa 1945-1949 to occupy, murder, maim, destroy, run people off their ancestral homes [where they had lived for centuries in peace comingled with other decent Jews] and confiscated everything people owned?)

Whirlwind....

Interesting reading: Goto Google, type in; "IDF, Qana massacres" (On April 18, 1976, using artillery and tank fire, the IDF massacred 102 Palestinian old men, women and [mostly] children cowering in a UN Army post at Qana, Lebanon for protection). Read the story and then talk to me about Zionist "victims," OK? Today, the massacre scene at Qana remains as it was then: A savaged and bloody shrine to the victims of Israel's trecherous IDF killers.

 

Israel profoundly regrets the loss of human life at Kana and has thoroughly investigated this tragic incident which was caused, first and foremost, by the firing of Katyusha rockets and mortars by Hizbullah from a location in close proximity to the UN position.

 

I disagree with your premise, and your numbers. Israel was fighting PLO terrorists in Lebanon. Terrorists that had no problem with killing and torturing civilians, and using them to hide behind.

 

MYTH

“Israel's operation to end the PLO threats to northern Israel resulted in 10,000 deaths and 600,000 homeless in south Lebanon.”

FACT

"It is clear to anyone who has traveled in southern Lebanon, as have many journalists and relief workers, that the original figures of 10,000 dead and 600,000 homeless...were extreme exaggerations," wrote the New York Times' David Shipler, a sharp critic of the Israeli war effort.

The 600,000 homeless figure originated in mid-June 1982 with the Palestine Red Crescent, headed by Yasser Arafat's brother Fathi. Francesco Noseda of the International Committee of the Red Cross, who had originally used the bogus number, later repudiated it.

Of course, there would have been zero dead or homeless if the PLO hadn't used south Lebanon as a base from which to menace Israel.

 

when a civilian straps a bomb to his chest he is no longer a civilian and he is armed.
he should be shot in the head from far away with a sniper rifle due to being a danger to actual civilians.