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  1. ToR original Registered Member

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    They do actually, they will use an implement for the sexual violence and most likely kill their victim - see serial killers and impotence
     
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    It was a random pic I found on google of a whiny baby. But feel free to go on another negative emotional tirade like a typical human.
     
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    Women do commit acts of sexual violence, you either hear of it less or it is less common. As an act of violence, women are generally less violent.
     
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    I am talking about actual rape, not weird serial killers which are not the norm. Serial killers are abnormal people, outliers, not the norm.
     
  8. ToR original Registered Member

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    Also 'males do NOT rape often' it happens 'rarely' in civilised society.
     
  9. ToR original Registered Member

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    Rapists (in civilised society) are also not the norm. Normal is defined by something occurring more often than not. Rape does not happen more often than it does not. Most men are not rapists. Most men do not rape.
     
  10. ToR original Registered Member

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    I have found when people try to 'make an abnormal thing normal' it is because they've committed this 'abnormal' act (or thinking of doing so or wanting to do so) and they're trying to alleviate their guilt or they're frustrated that their abnormal behavior is considered abnormal. Hence when compared to something THEY consider abnormal (serial killer) they fail to see the connection as they do not relate to serial killers, only (in this case) rapists.

    Regardless rape is not 'normal' ... as per the definition of the word 'normal'.

    Paedophiles are 'like this'. They largely believe they're normal (some do not and seek treatment before they offend) but they will find like minded friends and try to promote the 'normality' of their perversion. It however remains abnormal.

    May I suggest if you (or others reading this) wish to rape that you seek treatment.... immediately as it is NOT normal. You're basing 'normal' on how 'you' feel, but how 'you' feel is not how the majority 'feel'. Hence NOT normal.

    Also a serious, heinous, despicable crime .. lets not forget that.
     
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    Another lie, I never defended incel culture, I simply said involuntary celibate stands for incel, and that not all involuntary cebs stand for incel culture.

    In your human perception you believe yourself to be in the right, just like humans typically do.

    I started this thread to give men rights to dress in womens clothes and have gender equality. You started this thread to insult and abuse me.

    Funny because that's how I see this post of yours.

    I went to that website. They say unfacts and fallacies like this
    "Rape is just a way of gaining power – not a way of gaining sexual relief."
    Surely rape could be both, a way of gaining power and sexual relief?

    And then they simply state that "Men who rape are as likely as any other man to be cohabiting or having a significant relationship with a woman."
    No citations, they just say it like gospel.
    So where are the facts? I'm supposed to believe it just because that website says so? When that same website just litterally posted a fallacy right above it?

    So does forcing kids to go to school, but we don't call teachers and the government pedophiles do we?
    Why is rape traumatizing? Because it is disgusting.

    Why don't take a look at it objectively and clear your mind of built up bias.
    In your twisted perception that's how you want to see it.
    Again, another twisted perception. I was saying that the common way for women to get in the mood for sex is usually when they are in an altered state of mind. But go ahead and go on some tangent about how it is rape. It is founded on the fallacy that the sober state of mind is a moral state of mind, and anything that is an altered state of mind is inherently immoral, that is how this frame of mind begins, its akin to prohibitionist fallacy.
    Again, in your twisted perception. But I said nothing of the sort actually, I was saying that women get in the mood for sex when they are in an altered state of mind. Any reasonable human who was born yesterday knows that buying a woman a drink and getting her in the mood, is completely different from getting her so drunk she can't move, dragging her into a car and date-raping her. But I guess I'm not dealing with common human beings, but people off on another planet somewhere.
    Has nothing to do with victim shaming or blaming.
    Don't you understand that I don't care? If a feminist woman goes into a home alone with a strange man, and she gets raped, that's her problem. Being a feminist, preaching about how women get raped, obviously she could have injected herself into it and thought maybe she could get raped. You seem to inject emotional bias again. I do not feel emotional about it. It's like, if a sheep gets eaten by a lion, I do not blame the sheep or victim-blame the sheep, I simply do not care. I simply state the obvious facts: That if you go home alone with a strange man, there is a chance of being raped. I do not say this is morally right or wrong, I simply state, if a sheep walks into the woods, and gets eaten by a lion, there is a chance they can get eaten. Do you understand the difference? I dont have emotional bias, I dont blame or shame the sheep, I do not have animosty towards the sheep, I simply do not care.
    Again, if a sheep gets eaten by a lion, I do not really shame or blame the sheep, i simply objectively list the cause and effect of why that it occured.


    You keep perpetuating a society of emotional bias, twisted perceptions, and lack of objective discussion.
    If anything I could say your ideology is dangerous to women. I simply state the obvious, that women should not be suprised if they enter a man's house alone. And then you go on some emotional tirade saying you are empowering women, like I think it is your philosophy which is dangerous to women, its like someone going into a self-defense class and telling the self-defense instructor that war and weapons are evil and dangerous to humanity.

    Again that seems more up your alley than mine.
    You very much are so.
    And you expect me to believe you aren't biased against me. Laugh.

    And neither is going to church and criticizing the illogic of the bible, in this case your church and your bible.
     
  12. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Most of the people seem to say rape is the norm, as they post stats saying 1 out of 4 women get raped.

    I didn't post these stats, and it's besides the point, I never said rapists were the norm, I simply said SERIAL KILLERS were not the norm in relation to rapists.
     
  13. ToR original Registered Member

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    Gamelord have you ever been in a normal se
    1 out of 4 means it is NOT the norm, NORMAL is the majority NOT the minority. Thus 75% of women NOT being raped is the NORM. Ie Women are mainly NOT raped. Men are mainly NOT rapists.

    Meanwhile if those 25% of women being raped were all raped by the same one man ....

    Thus 25% of women being raped does not at all mean 25% of men are rapists but if it did it (as it is the minority %) would mean it is NOT the norm.

    Please grab a dictionary and look up the definition of the word normal. I can't keep explaining it.
     
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    Often killers (sexual ones) start with lesser crimes. They move on to kill so their victim cannot talk. Not necessarily because they like or want to kill. They did however like and want to rape. Thus rape was the motivator not the act of killing. The desire to rape being the 'abnormal' trait.
     
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    That's not what normal means, normal means just a sizeable chunk of the population.

    What you are thinking of is CEO's and business ownership, which is 51% exactly.

    For example, if 25% of boys like the color green, it is normal for boys to like green.

    Second, I never said RAPISTS were normal, I said 1 out of 4 women getting raped was the norm.

    Again, they posted these stats not me. Last year the stats said 1 out of 6, so either rape is getting more common or the stats are doctored.

    I thought Tiassa was a she.
     
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    If what you are saying was true, then the stat that 1 out of 4 college women getting raped is false.

    Because that would mean that 1 out 4 college women are murdered, which is demonstrably false.

    So either the first stat is true, and that rapists killing their prey is simply very uncommon.
    Or the first stat is false, and rapists killing their prey is very common.
     
  17. ToR original Registered Member

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    Nope it means what the 'majority' is, the expected, the usual, the typical.

    Rape is not expected, it is not usual and it is not typical and therefore NOT normal.

    Get your head around the word 'normal' and you'll see why you're argument is flawed (and offensive).
     
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    If the stat that 1 out of 4 women getting raped is true, the that seems a pretty common and typical occurence.

    If the stat, I daresay is not true, that could explain a lot of things, such as the notion that rape is an abnormal occurence.

    Here's an example to help you understand.

    If I say death in war is normal, that doesn't mean that the majority of troops will certainly die.

    Second, let me make this clear. I never said rape is normal, it is they who implied rape is a regular occurence when they posted that 1 out of 4 college women get raped.
     
  19. ToR original Registered Member

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    Not all rapists become killers only those who are likely to rape 'often' as the more 'often' they do it the more likely they are to be caught. Some rapists can hide behind power and celebrity ..hence no reason to kill. Some rapists rape those who cannot 'speak' hence no need to kill. So not all rapists are killers, they don't 'need' to be. But if you took away their protections, you'd find a greater number of deaths (I'm speculating). There are of course those who kill for killing sake, how are they better or worse than serial rapists? They're not. They just think they are.
     
  20. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    Well at least you admit you are speculating, which is more than can be asked of the other members of this thread.
     
  21. ToR original Registered Member

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    You shouldn't say it is 'normal' unless it is the majority end result.
    In current wars - death for soldiers is NOT normal which is why the media is able to publish the details of every single one.
     
  22. ToR original Registered Member

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    Of course, I'm trying to be fair and get you to move away from 'defensive' to seeing the bigger ..more realistic picture. It's ok to accept defeat

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  23. gamelord Registered Senior Member

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    You and I just have different definitions of normal. I don't adhere to the 50% definition.

    In current wars only about 1% of soldiers die. But I wasn't referring to only current wars.

    Another example: It is normal for teens to be angsty.
    But does that mean exactly over 50% of teens are angsty?

    Again let me make this clear. I never said rape is normal, it is the others in this thread who implied rape is a regular occurence when they posted that 1 out of 4 college women get raped.
     
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