Are you an introvert or extrovert?

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  1. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you for this.

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    Really.

    After not being active much here, I forgot how intense these threads can sometimes get. I apologize too if I misunderstood you.
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Nope.

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  5. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    This place wears one's manners down. I have to take a long break every so often, to purge my negativity.

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  7. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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  8. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Can confirm.
     
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  9. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    I mentioned that my score on that kind of assessment has been stable and definite, earlier.
    It was also - the first time I took it - about the same as my girlfriend's score, and the scores of two other women who were friends of hers.
    And my mother's.
    Now I read that such a score is on the "masculine" end of some ostensible linear range - already a suspect notion given the dimensionality of the measured traits.

    Methinks a non-parametric approach is indicated, and meanwhile the abuse of these kinds of evaluations is likely to make up a large proportion of their employments.
     
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  10. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    I have no idea how a 100% introvert would differ to a 50% introvert, to be honest.
     
  11. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    What I'm still struggling with is the obsession with profiling. So what if you discover where you fit into some dream team's notion of 4 or 7 or 9 or 16 personality types? Is it ever worth $50 to find out --- well, did you learn anything you didn't already know about yourself?
    You didn't grow up to be a president or a forest ranger but became a misfitted forklift operator by day, because you need a job; hopeful novelist by night, because it's what you really want to do. The test score doesn't change your situation.
    Why employers administer these tests? My best guess: in case you run amok some day with a semi-automatic, they can hand your results to the police: "See, there was nothing to indicate that the soul-destroying humiliation and tedium of this job would push her over the edge."
     
  12. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    While I try to avoid stereotypes, we do agree that men and women are different - right? (Testosterone/Estrogen)
    We are also raised differently. (Big boys don't cry...)

    I wouldn't be surprised if these differences show up in how we answer certain questions.

    Not placing a value judgment on either. Thinking and feeling are both important aspects of the human condition.
     
  13. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    vive la difference
     
  14. gmilam Valued Senior Member

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    I suspect employers administer these tests to determine if you will be happy in the job they are trying to fill. Why invest resources in training someone if they are just going to leave as soon as something more to their liking comes along?
     
  15. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    Of course it does. Men and women lie equally, but they lie according to what's expected of them.
    Asked, "Do you often spend time alone?" people react differently, according to what secret message they perceive in the question. Straight on, it's a practical question and the answer often depends on one's occupation (a telephone lineman has to; a service rep isn't allowed to) and family situation (a pensioner may have to; a young father of twins can't) and so on.
    But if the question is changed to "Do you enjoy spending time alone?" there is a subtext that conveys a different message to each reader.
    "Do you seek opportunities to spend time alone?" or "Do you wish you had more time alone?" each have subtly different subtexts, and every taker of the test will respond according to how they're perceiving themselves and wish to be perceived by others --- in that hour.
     
  16. Jeeves Valued Senior Member

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    They're going to leave as soon as someone offers them more money, better working conditions, advancement opportunity, more appreciation, proximity to their kid's school or whatever. That's a given: employees take the best job available to their [often changing] life requirements.
    A personality type-match guarantees nothing beyond what you already knew when the person applied for the job: that they want the job. Making a psychological test a prerequisite for employment often deters the best candidates; you're stuck with the applicants who'll put up with humiliation. (Maybe that's the idea.)
     
  17. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, there are inherent differences between men and women, for sure. Our individual experiences will likely dictate how we perceive the world around us, and how we respond to it. How people respond to me in the workplace for example, is very different than how some of the men are approached. Not drastically different, but there are some subtle nuances here and there, that seem gender driven. But, I enjoy being feminine, and don't want to ''be like a man.'' I don't care for the feminist messages that strongly suggest for women to compete with men, be like men, etc.

    I just want to be treated equally, and not have my gender be the determining factor over whether or not I'm hired/get a promotion, etc.

    Agree.
     
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  18. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    A 100% introvert would virtually always choose staying home to going out.
    A 50% introvert will go out normally, but need some quiet time afterward to recharge.
    A 0% introvert (i.e. extrovert) will actually be energized by social interaction, and be just as stoked to go out again the next night.

    Obvs my examples are extremes. Most people fall somewhere on the middle of the Bell curve.
     
  19. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I dont know what messages you mean.!!!
    What is a good example of one of those feminist messages you dont care for that strongly suggest for women to compete wit men, be like men???... ie... compete wit men in what way... an be like men in what way.???
     
  20. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    While I don't disagree with your thoughts, I'm pretty certain that MB spent a lot of time developing the exact wording of every question (including exhaustive play-testing) for just the reason you mention. We may not see the logic in the wording from where we sit, but I'll bet you my paycheque they have very good data showing that the wording they crafted gets the results they intended the test to get.
     
  21. pluto2 Banned Valued Senior Member

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    I think I'm an extreme introvert.

    I don't like most people on the Internet and how they treat me and abuse me. And believe me I've been abused by people on the Internet countless times before.

    I believe that most people on the Internet don't have or can't show any empathy.
     
  22. cluelusshusbund + Public Dilemma + Valued Senior Member

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    I scored INTJ-A… an i dont know exactly what that means… but in numbers i suspect that it woud be equal to or near 100%

    At my next to last job whare i worked for over 19 years… wit out explanation we was all given about 3 pages of questons to answr… an many of the questons was the same but asked in slightly diferent ways… an they all seemed quite intrusive an designed to find out in a sneeky way what you thout about you’r job an bosses… so i made sure to give positive an consistent answrs.!!!

    Two people signed ther names to each others answrs… lol.!!!

    I liked my job in quality control which had just enuff challenge to make it interestin but still a easy job… but i resented managments style... such as... to try an get “more” out of by feedin us a piece of pizza if our section was the most productive that month… an the system used to determine the “winer” was severely flawed anyway… lol.!!!

    Oh well… answrin those questons kept ‘em happy an that suited my purpose.!!!

    A couple of mounths later… wit no explanation we was handed diferent questons to answr… so i gave nice positive answrs to them also.!!!

    We found out that this test was to determin what job position you was qualified for cause all the results was posted in the cafeteria for all to see.!!!

    My results matched the job i had… an the results for a buddy of mine caused him to feel depressed cause it perty much said he needed to see a personal counselor… an my supervisor was pizzed (slammed papers down on his desk after readin the results in the cafeteria) cause it said he was best suited for manual labor.!!!

    Later on it leaked out that the cause of them wantin those questons answrd was that the Bosses dauther was in college an we was bein used as ginny pigs for studies she was doin for her college grades.!!!

    About a mounth later she showed up wit an exercise in communication… which involved us puttin on a blindfold an bein vocally guided thru a maze of mouse an rat traps by a partner we chose.!!!

    When my supervisor told me it was time for me to run the maze… i said no… ant gonna do it… he said everbody has to do it… i said it ant gonna hapen.!!!

    He walked off in a huff an never mentoned it agan… a few mounths later he was demoted to an inventory type job.!!!

    I alredy had anuther job for the last 4 years an was thankin about quittin workin for this company anyhow… an i quit a couple of mounths later.!!!

    Bein self employed for the next 20 years was my favort job ever

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  23. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    MBTI came out before the internet.

    How much do you socialize IRL?
     

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