Theme of the universe = waste resources?

Discussion in 'Alternative Theories' started by TabbyStar, Jul 8, 2019.

  1. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Do you suppose that atoms "like" to be packed together, and if they are given too much room, they sort of fall apart - like soil in a plant pot?
     
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  3. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Oh woo is the Universe to suffer such a cruel fate

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  5. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    close wall st every other week
     
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  7. river

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    By recycling .
     
  8. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    Red flag? Please, I am not on a fishing trip here. That would be rude to other members and totally disrespectful to the site founders.

    I have no deity agenda. Do not believe in it at all. However, I have made it clear, in other threads, that I do support Kardashev possibilities...even up to, or beyond, level 5. So I remain open to the idea that a highly advanced civilization could have, "arranged" all we observe...locally and outward to some extent. Who created them, if they exist? I have no idea. Like I said (which you only quoted the "designed" word, leaving out "random") I am only trying to do thought exercises as a means of trying to understand.
     
  9. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    In my silly mind I picture countless photons zooming across the universe. So many it makes my head spin. A tiny fraction have benefit (from a perspective of how we benefit) and are simply not utilized. I then struggle with, "why". At that point I come to forums, like sciforums, hoping to interact and further my education and understanding of opinions from others.

    Such is my adventure in life currently.
     
  10. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    Thank you for using the word, "friend"!
    You are correct. My automotive career has planted deep sensitivities to aspects like efficiency. It hangs me up often when trying to engage in conversations regarding science

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  11. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Science, quite pointedly, has nothing whatsoever to say about "why" - only "how".
    "Why" is a philosophical question.
     
  12. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    Yep. I need to get that foundation reinforced in my head.
    Tx
     
  13. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I haven't read the entire thread I guess but you aren't saying that you have an engineering degree are you?
     
  14. exchemist Valued Senior Member

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    I had to look up Kardashev. For some reason I found irrelevant images of women with large bottoms swimming into my mind.....

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  16. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    yawning is a learned response
    it is used to signal dominance of the group behavior.
    socially it is like picking your nose

    acceptable in some cultures, not in others.

    i find it quite a fascinating human social interactive behaviour.
     
  17. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    Can you please explain further the nature of your question? I do not see it being relevant to the discussion.
    TX
     
  18. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    You keep mentioning your career in the automotive industry as a reason for your concern about the Universe and waste. You seemed to think it was relevant.
     
  19. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    My experience, from an efficiency point of view, is indeed relevant. It is why I view the Cosmos with such scrutiny regarding energy waste.. as I perceive it. I am not sure I can ever shake it off. I examined painters outside my home today. My brain kerchunks (processes) all the waste in their routine.

    I believe properly trained efficiency personnel need not be degreed in order to observe similar/identical practices.

    TX for clarifying my request btw.
     
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  20. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    I don't think your focus on "efficiency" is a result of your job. That may just be how you look at things however.

    It doesn't really have any bearing on how the Universe works however. What does "waste" even mean in the context of the Universe. Human beings are waste in that context.
     
  21. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    Well the Cosmos seems to obey conservation laws as we both, along with many others, understand. Efficiency, in my perspective, can be thought along a similar thought exercise. In an automotive factory (running only one 8 hour shift) powers down non essential equipment...to conserve or be more efficient. Stars do not...at least not in the sense I try to understand. They deplete resources without benefit that I understand.

    Whether my adventure in knowledge has obstacles pertaining from my career or not. I will not debate. I see no point in it. I am satisfied, as an individual, with where I draw conclusions regarding such.
     
  22. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    This is going to be a short thread.

    Automotive plants and the Universe aren't related in any way.
     
  23. TabbyStar Registered Member

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    Then why even comment? Why not just disagree and pass on by? What thread benefit did you bring?
     

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