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Discussion in 'Conspiracies' started by Interstella, Oct 17, 2019.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Once you publicly announce them they are just that - public and not protectable. Common sense.
    If you think patent clerks are going to steal your ideas - you're nuts. Companies file billion dollar ideas all the time, and patent clerks don't steal them. (Indeed, companies wish they would - if they ever did, they'd have a big enough paper trail to recover all their future potential earnings with the patent, without having to do any of the work!)
    What cakes did you bake?
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    That was the question put to you. Why didn't you try it?

    It is not a matter of technology. As sideshowbob points out: you cannot have enough energy to restore the system. It can't violate basic thermodynamics.

    Hint: You have omitted a force in your mental setup. What does a magnetic field do to an object moving through it? Where does the energy in the object come from that generates the electricity?
     
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  5. Interstella Registered Member

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    Cakes I cannot really mention .
     
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  7. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    Thomas Edison:
    "Genius is one percent inspiration and ninety-nine percent perspiration."
    Nikola Tesla:
    "If he [Thomas Edison] had a needle to find in a haystack, he would not stop to reason where it was most likely to be, but would proceed at once with the feverish diligence of a bee, to examine straw after straw until he found the object of his search. … Just a little theory and calculation would have saved him ninety percent of his labor."

    So... work hard; learn the theory; do the calculations.
     
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  8. Interstella Registered Member

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    It doesn't violate the conservation of energy , it equals it which is a very different matter. If you held a pendulum at height and let go , the pendulum swings and the momentum , I.e kE , will carry it into the upswing .
    On the upswing the pendulum arm will pass through a copper coil creating energy that is directed back into the system , the physics works if we can produce enough charge using a transformer .

    P.s of course there is a copper coil on either side.
     
  9. Interstella Registered Member

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    Thank you , that's probably the best advice anyone has given me.
    However , isn't sometimes trial and error just as practical and can turn up a few surprises ?

    I didn't need calculations to do the dual slit experiment , I knew my method would work.
     
  10. Interstella Registered Member

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    OK , I have pE = Q

    Potential energy equals charge ?

    And Q = A+B/t

    • A = coil one
    • B = coil two
     
  11. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    You wouldn't need any calculations here either if you understood the thermodynics.
     
  12. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Well there ya go.

    Sounds to me like you'd rather be a victim.
     
  13. Interstella Registered Member

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    Well understanding hot and cold isn't that difficult of a subject , the physics is quite simple. I understand friction on a perpetual device will cause the device to stop unless of course we could put energy back into the system by using basic physics .
     
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  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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  15. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    You don't create energy, you convert it from one form to another.

    And neither gravity nor magnetism is a source of energy.



    All right. Here's is what you have neglected that you would have learned if you had read about electricity or magnetism or about perpetual motion machines:

    Thrusting a pole of a permanent magnet through a coil of wire, induces an electric current in the coil (as you know). What you neglected is that the current in turn sets up a magnetic field around the coil, making it a magnet. This magnet, in turn, opposes the movement of the weight.

    In other words, it takes work to push the pendulum weight through a magnetic field. Since it was only moving via inertia, the opposing force will extract the kinetic energy of the weight and rapidly bring it to a stop.
     
  16. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Since you are unaware that thermodynamics is not about "hot and cold", but about energy conservation - I think sideshowbob's remark is rather on-point.
     
  17. sideshowbob Sorry, wrong number. Valued Senior Member

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    I had a professor who told us: The first time he studied thermodynamics, as an undergrad, he didn't understand it. The second time he studied it, as a grad student, he thought he understood it. But when he had to teach it, as a post-doc, he realized he didn't understand it as well as he thought he did.

    You don't seem to be very far along on that path.

    We sure could - and one of the most fundamental laws of physics says we have to put more in than we get back out.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    No, it's really not. If you think thermo is "quite simple" then there's a lot of it you don't understand.
    Then you don't understand basic physics.
     
  19. Seattle Valued Senior Member

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    So...you're not going to support his book write?
     
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  20. Interstella Registered Member

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    That is incorrect , a true scientist can simplify their own interpretation for easy understanding . Thermodynamics is as simple as hot and cold , obviously we can elaborate more than the basic principle but the subject is easy.

    P.s hot and cold is the basic physics.
     
  21. Interstella Registered Member

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    Additionally
    How can anyone not understand the function of hot and cold ?

    Try electrodynamics of moving bodies if you want a more complex subject .
     
  22. origin Heading towards oblivion Valued Senior Member

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    I noticed you did not respond to post 52, which is odd since Dave directly answered why you idea won't work.
     
  23. Interstella Registered Member

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    That's not accurately true with my notion as the induced electricity is not a constant , it is a pulse device . An electromagnetic field can't sustain itself for that reason I should think or are you saying that even after the short pulse of induced electricity as left the coil , fed back into the system , that the coil will become magnetised without the electrical current ?

    Explained further , once the magnet leaves the coil so does the induced electricity simultaneously .
     

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