living forever is illegal?

Discussion in 'Politics' started by just me, Mar 14, 2020.

  1. just me Registered Senior Member

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    I posted a thread which has just been deleted because it is allegedly illegal.
    the thread was called: this thread is for wealthy old people who want to reverse aging.

    in it I proposed an experiment to find a concoction which will effectively reverse the aging process.

    the experiment I proposed was to take the medicines NMN and TA-65 in combination with each other and see if they reversed aging.

    but apparently, that is not allowed.
    I am not sure if these drugs are legal or not, but the fact that they are both marketed so very openly indicates to me that they are marketed legally.

    so why can't they be taken together?

    I get that they could interact and form some completely new substance, but it sort of goes without saying that they shouldn't be taken at exactly the same time, but rather at regular but separate intervals.

    I mean, they could cure aging, the most common disease on the planet if taken in such a manner.

    but I don't think everyone is too keen on the idea of aging being cured.
    for instance, without naming names or pointing fingers, whoever deleted my anti aging thread.

    the experiments still available for any very old person who wants to try it.
    it must be an old person so that any results are realised quickly.
    NMN fixes genes up and TA-65 protects them from further damage, and hence keeps them in good condition.

    this is why I think these medicines can make an individual biologically immortal.
    because: sustainably healthy genes = sustainably healthy cells = sustainably healthy body
     
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  3. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Medical experimentation on humans is (fortunately) carefully regulated. And there are far more mechanisms that cause aging than NAD+ deficiency and telomere erosion.
     
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  5. just me Registered Senior Member

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    then lets just not call it human experimentation.
    lets call it health supplementation.
     
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  7. just me Registered Senior Member

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    and if all of the cells work properly, the human works properly.
    these other "causes" are probably symptoms.
     
  8. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    I think that changing the name of what you are doing to avoid scrutiny is dishonest, and ultimately hurts the cause of science.
    Not true at all. In anaphylactic reactions, for example, the cells "working properly" are the problem.
     
  9. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I think you are misinterpreting what, exactly, it is that is not allowed.

    Presumably, you got a PM explaining it, but I'm going to go out on a limb* and say that what is not allowed is:

    - a total amateur
    - using a public science forum
    - to conduct utterly irresponsible* human experiments on members
    - by asking them to take drugs
    - whose nature is not known to anyone here.


    * literally irresponsible, since you neither
    - have any idea what these substances do or don't do, and
    - have no control over how when, where they are taken
    - have no intention of taking responsibility for your "test subjects".

    To allow this would open up not just you, but the forum operators, to legal action.


    * being the one who reported the egregiously irresponsible request, I'm not going too far out on a limb.
     
  10. just me Registered Senior Member

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    I told the members that they can do as much research on these drugs as they want, they don't have to take my amature word for anything.
    and I know what the medicines do from the experiments which have already been done with them.
    and lots of people take them already, they're commercially available.

    I seriously don't see anything illegal about recommending a marketed health supplement.
     
  11. just me Registered Senior Member

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    it's not dishonest, it IS health supplementation to take medicines to fix aging.

    your right, obviously there are exceptions. There are scenarios the body cant deal with no matter how well it works.
    plagues, car crashes, foreign substances in it, that sort of thing.
     
  12. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    Sure. Start your own site.

    You just said you're an amateur. In fact, you don't even rise to the level of amateur; you don't have any training or experience. You're just a person who is curious about some drugs and did some reading on the internet.

    It is reckless as well as irresponsible to suggest others should take drugs for your benefit - moreso to use a public site for your purpose. You would be implicating the site operators.

    Who said anything about illegal?
    Naive, unethical, exploitative, reckless, irresponsible, maybe - but no one said illegal did they?


    This is not peculiar to SciFo. Virtually all sites have some aspect of their policy that forbids inciting others to try drugs. In fact, many sites even forbid asking for medical advice (such as 'should I take this drug for my condition?') because of the liability issues.
     
  13. just me Registered Senior Member

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    isn't that what an amateur is?
    besides, it doesn't matter.
    its not like I invented these medicines.

    yes the thread was deleted because it was allegedly illegal.
    anyway I wont mention experimentation again because I think that might have been the illegal part.
     
  14. just me Registered Senior Member

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    oh well, no conspiracy here then, it was just some concerned do gooder who deleted that thread.
     

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