UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

The following link to a very brief summary of Jacques Vallee's UFO odyssey may just possibly lead to you actually reading one of his very insightful books on the topic.
And just possibly, you may even then have a fundamental shift in perspective that will satisfy your repeated questions here:
https://www.thinkanomalous.com/jacques-vallee.html

For once I can reciprocate. And hope it keeps up.

 

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There was no Eureka moment when I came down from sitting on the fence re UFOs and kindred phenomena. More of a back-and-forth mental struggle that gradually shifted in favor of not only the reality of non-mundane UFOs but that it was just a part of a continuum of supernatural/paranormal phenomena, traditionally considered separate by most who accepted e.g. poltergeist activity as too well documented to be just all hoax and hysteria. Vallee and Keel pointed out many instances of a linkage between those two in particular. In such cases it's always a value judgement thing - by the very nature of such instances they can never fall under conveniently repeatable laboratory study. Given every indication non-human intelligences with their own agenda quite different to ours are the actual source.

 

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Fascinating website. Tks for posting it. Just watched the video on the Zaragoza Goblin case and found it very intriguing. One of the best documented cases of a poltergeist phenomenon we have, if we can even call it that. This one was just a voice, but it would talk to anyone who entered the apt, even the police. What does this tell us about the possibility of disembodied consciousnesses? In the very least that they CAN exist!

 

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Interesting video, and an idea that I have read about before, don't ask me where or when.
I'm not shifted my position but again reiterate that I firmly believe we are not alone, and again interestingly many reputable scientists expect we may have the "required imperial evidence" for its existence with the next couple of decades, albeit simple bacterial life or similar. I believe that is the thought of Seth Shostak and his SETI orginization.
I would also fully support any further official, investigation/s into UFOs [the small unexplained number] and the idea put forward by Vallee...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jacques_Vallée#Interpretation_of_the_UFO_evidence
He advocates a stronger and more serious involvement of science in the UFO research and debate.[10] Only this can reveal the true nature of the UFO phenomenon.

Bingo!

 

I prefer to respond only to what imo is worth responding to. Evidently you have an abundance of time on your hands to indulge in mostly pointless point-by-point provocative questions and/or outright distortions/assertions. It becomes tiresome to keep correcting everything twisted or drawn out of context. Add habitual flaming e.g. oft repeated use of 'UFO nut(s)', used in such a way as to imply that term is apt for whoever combatant you are attacking. FLAMING. Contrary to forum rules/guidelines. And from someone normally expected to be the shining example of forum netiquette. Hardly.

You along with every other participant or lurker here knows my position. It doesn't fit your contrived narrative deriding 'little green men' etc. and that irritates no doubt. Too bad.

 

I see what you mean now.
I notice JamesR addresses that point in his post #4085.

 

Oh? And what TV show was that? Or is this just you lying again because you've got nothing else?

 

So, how many was it? 2 or 3? Can't anyone there even count up to 3?

This whole thing stinks of fraud. Are you actually believing that several spaceships with a couple of aliens traveled light years just so they could set down near a schoolyard in bumfuck Zimbabwe only to flash some mental images to a group of school children? This was their mission? And, to what ends did this mission have purpose? It is said the aliens wanted to state something about how humans are screwing up the planet and that we could do better. Why would they pass this along to a bunch of kids in the middle of nowhere? Why not set down on the lawns of the White House and pass on this vital information to the President?

Since then, have any of those children accomplished anything remotely having to do with this event other than one girl touring UFO conferences repeating her story?

This is a load of horse puckies. Whatever adults who dreamed this up and had these kids indoctrinated to tell such a story should have their fucking heads examined.

 

Yeah I saw a program some time ago that mentioned this experience and the investigation into this experience .

 

His way of addressing it leaves much to be desired. I'll quote the entire relevant passage in #4085:

From my #4055:

James R no doubt read that but chose to fabricate a caricature 'paraphrase' "It must be non-material entities who have whimsical agendas and who defy narrow-minded scoffers."
Note what is in red. I made a single slip-up earlier by not adding a customary and consistent 'imo' which gave James the chance to pounce. Now inserted below in red:

Don't ask for yet more on that silly episode. I detest having to deal with such needless digressions.

 

Q-reeus , your post # 4094 is absolutely disgusting .

Your response to MR in that post ;

" So, how many was it? 2 or 3? Can't anyone there even count up to 3?

This whole thing stinks of fraud. Are you actually believing that several spaceships with a couple of aliens traveled light years just so they could set down near a schoolyard in bumfuck Zimbabwe only to flash some mental images to a group of school children? This was their mission? And, to what ends did this mission have purpose? It is said the aliens wanted to state something about how humans are screwing up the planet and that we could do better. Why would they pass this along to a bunch of kids in the middle of nowhere? Why not set down on the lawns of the White House and pass on this vital information to the President?

Since then, have any of those children accomplished anything remotely having to do with this event other than one girl touring UFO conferences repeating her story?

This is a load of horse puckies. Whatever adults who dreamed this up and had these kids indoctrinated to tell such a story should have their fucking heads examined. "

Is this acceptable ?

Anyone , a person , is welcome to comment .

 

That post was by (Q) not Q-ueerus...

 

Sorry people .

 

River: please - learn to use the quote feature properly.