Paranormal feelings

Discussion in 'UFOs, Ghosts and Monsters' started by wegs, Apr 6, 2020.

  1. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    It would destroy the delicious mystery.......

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  3. Write4U Valued Senior Member

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    Suppose death is caused by a virus and the dying person infects a relative with his dying breath. In olden days when viruses were completely unknown, this was a demon which "traveled" from person to person.

    An excellent movie with Denzel Washington; "Fallen". Check the trailer;
     
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  5. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    For sure, especially since they were investigating the house or building with the lights on.

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  7. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    That is another very strange aspect of paranormal activity

    Frequently you will hear, or see in print, there is more out there than just stuff we know about and Science can detect

    So what do ghost hunters do? Use scientific instruments to try and detect

    Let our imagination run a little distance into no man's land and congratulate the Ghost Hunter who finally proved ghost exist

    All it takes now is to go to the haunted location, switch on Ghost Detector Mk 9 and start interviewing the detected apparition

    Suddenly the delicious mystery becomes mundane, although still weird to watch a ghost who died by decapitation carrying his head around, placing it on the table when seated

    Of course being explained ghost now join the reality realm

    Groups spring up demanding investigation into other paranormal activity cease so that the delicious mystery about them is maintained

    Enough breakfast time

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  9. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Okay. So "Lisa" comes up on the called ID, meaning the call comes from "Lisa's" phone.

    Where were you at the time? What phone did your Mum usually use?

    Could this have been somebody else calling you from your Mum's house on a landline?

    You left out a few answers, too. Why?
    • Was the number that called your mother's phone number? (Landline?)
    • Was your mother's phone (landline) switched on at the time?
    • Was a call billed to your mother's phone at that time? Did you check the phone records?
     
  10. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, I was at the senior center with my mom in her toom. The phone my mom used was a landline in that room. Nobody was using it when I received the call on the cellphone. Didn't notice the number on the caller id. Didn't check the bill for calls.
     
  11. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    No, but I would.

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    I think sci-forum skeptics would at the very least, find it interesting.
     
  12. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    So not a confirmed paranormal event, then. As I expected.
     
  13. Sarkus Hippomonstrosesquippedalo phobe Valued Senior Member

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    Surely all coincidences should be taken as evidence of the paranormal until one can prove otherwise, right? I mean, someone getting a phone call from a “Lisa“... rarely ever happens, right? So, the onus is on you to prove it was just coincidence, and then MR can stop believing that it was a paranormal experience. I’m sure that’s how it works, right: you proving the negative?

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  14. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Is that what you’ve taken away from MR’s posts?

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  15. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Just like most direct experiences of everyone are unconfirmed. Does that mean they didn't happen? Not at all..
     
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  16. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    So, you didn't bother doing any kind of investigation but were eager to post it on a science forum as a confirmed paranormal event.

    And, you wonder why your credibility is non existent.
     
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  17. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Doesn't it strike you as odd that Magical Realist - somebody who is desperate to verify the existence of the paranormal - is apparently completely uninterested in digging into his phone call case in any more detail?

    It's just one more demonstration that he has never been, and will never be, interested in finding the truth about these things.
     
  18. foghorn Valued Senior Member

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    With respect MR, besides both noticing the caller ID as ''Lisa'', what happened next, did the nurse pick up ?
     
  19. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Well, he provided answers to your questions but it seems that you feel it was still mere coincidence that the caller ID displayed his mother’s name, “Lisa.” The nurse doesn’t know anyone named “Lisa,” and a first name only appearing seems a little unusual, don’t you think?

    But to your point, there isn’t anything wrong with viewing what MR experienced as merely “unusual.” I think the problem you have is that MR considered it a spiritual sign, and not mere coincidence. Is this an accurate assumption on my part?
     
  20. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    If a dead person can make a phone ring AND bring their names up on a caller id, why isn't this happening all the time? Phones should be ringing off the hook everywhere.

    Or, did MR just make up the whole thing from his vivid imagination?
     
  21. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    Even though I’m open to the possibility that ghosts may exist, I’m personally skeptical of ghosts interacting with tangible objects, such as knocking things over, doors slamming, phones ringing etc. Where is their “energy” coming from?

    The idea behind paranormal “feelings” hence my creating this thread, stems from perhaps confirmation bias - if we want to believe in ghost activity, then we will lean towards that as the plausible option when faced with unusual or unexplainable situations.

    What do you feel is the explanation behind the name “Lisa” showing up on caller ID?

    To MR: Do you feel that the deceased can hear us?
     
  22. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly! You have hit the proverbial nail on the head, the question no paranormal proponent can answer. They often have no concept of physics and the laws that govern them, and they will often make claims that violate those laws.
     
  23. Magical Realist Valued Senior Member

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    Accounts of ghosts draining camera batteries abound. Ghosts can also tap into the heat energy in the air, resulting in "cold spots". Lights are also known to flicker sometimes. Maybe they also derive their energy from the vacuum of free space.

    "Using the upper limit of the cosmological constant, the vacuum energy of free space has been estimated to be 10−9 joules (10−2 ergs) per cubic meter. However, in both quantum electrodynamics (QED) and stochastic electrodynamics (SED), consistency with the principle of Lorentz covariance and with the magnitude of the Planck constant suggest a much larger value of 10113 joules per cubic meter."---
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vacuum_energy

    If they're around they can. That's what investigations show.
     
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