Presidential debate

Discussion in 'Politics' started by Seattle, Sep 30, 2020.

  1. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Looks like you share Trump's view of veterans - losers, suckers and assholes apparently. Bless your heart.

    Let's see how that approach plays out in the election.
     
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  3. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    <------also a veteran
    (who stops for an occasional whiskey and conversation with my peers at the vfw hall)
     
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  5. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Like I said, let's see how that approach plays out. Let the people decide.
     
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  7. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    Trump's not a veteran but he's fooled you into thinking he's something big?
     
  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    TRump is an arrogant prick
    I do not like him.
    I'm just anti-war.
     
  9. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Most of us are...anti war that is.
    You don't believe Biden is anti war?
    I have two return veterans as good mates...one is left of center, the other right....Both see Trump as an arrogant prick as you say.
    The world sees him that way.It's not any silly anti American thing...It's just Trump.
     
  10. mathman Valued Senior Member

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    It looks like Covid-19 shut him up.
     
  11. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    As usual, if under Dem presidency the US starts a war, it is some Rep-controlled deep state or so. In fact, here I agree with you, all the US wars are supported by the deep state. And I'm afraid that without Trump there would have been at least one new terrorist war, in Venezuela. And we would predictably read here about this war something like
    And in Iraq and Libya you would Saddam and Ghaddafi as the main terrorists if they would have survived.
    I don't, given that he supported the start of two terrorist wars, in Libya and Syria. I think he is neither pro nor anti of whatever, or if he is, it doesn't matter. He will do what the deep state tells him to do, and all what he will care about is some good jobs for Hunter in Venezuela or Belarus. But maybe some Russian or Chinese oligarchs also have good offers. I would guess Huawei needs some recommendations how to improve its position in the US market. Hunter Biden has something to offer.

    Posted using a Huawei phone.
     
  12. Bells Staff Member

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    How much do you get paid for the Russian propaganda crap you post online?

    Is it per hour? Or are you given a set amount and bonus for extra time and effort spent?

    Do you get medical and dental?
     
  13. Schmelzer Valued Senior Member

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    You want to compare with the wage you get for posting Western propaganda?
     
  14. paddoboy Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah, and I've been listening/observing your bullshit propaganda and weird twist on many things for quite a while now.
    Using a Huawei phone? Either way it is what it is...bullshit.
     
  15. Bells Staff Member

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    I don't post propaganda..

    You, on the other hand, come out with utter rubbish like this:

    From the 80's.. The Republicans have started more wars and involved the US in conflict in other countries than the Democrats.

    It's not just that you post propaganda, you post such utter crap that flies in the face of well documented history, that you come across as a Russian troll version of Baghdad Bob..

    So I have to ask.. How much are they paying you to debase yourself like this?
     
  16. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I kinda wonder if Trump is willing to participate in more debates.

    :EDIT:

    After testing positive for Covid 19.
     
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  17. geordief Valued Senior Member

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    A bit early to be thinking about that.First ,how will this affect him on a personal level?

    Then how will this affect any judgement as to how he has handled his responsibility to the health of those around him?(did he ,for example keep others in the dark about his own condition or that of those close to him?)

    If he can obfuscate those questions and keep his supporters happy ,then would he feel that the debates were playing go his strengths or would he try to weasel out if he can work an excuse?

    I do hope he has not managed to infect Biden.We have to wait each day for his tests.
     
  18. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I just asked someone to get me a pink mask, machine washable, that says in white lettering: "I'm a Barbie Girl." So I wouldn't forget my mask when I go out.

    It's hard to have sympathy when he suggested injecting bleach.
     
  19. Hipparchia Registered Senior Member

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    That's no way to talk to a colonel of the GRU.

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  20. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    As usual, you cannot read or paraphrase my post. (There's no deep State involved in any of my posts, because it isn't important in the US - deep State bs is a Russian and East European schoolboy obsession, and I'm too easily bored).
    The issue is once again your ignorance. You live in a world of propaganda from "both sides", and admit no role for physical or historical reality - that handicaps you in guessing who, what, when, and even where, was involved when the US did or did not "start" a "terrorist war".
    You haven't mentioned, for example, the one (or ones) currently being fought in Yemen and Qatar.
    You mean "with" Trump, of course. He's Republican, i.e. fascist, remember? You do know how fascist demagogues with big strong armies behave, I hope. If you don't, a quick visit to Reagan's record in Central America and the Middle East will get you up to speed.

    Like every other modern (post fascist takeover) Republican President, Trump is also backing the State terrorism operations in the standard list of South and Central American countries that have at one time or another defied US capitalist corporate interests - the one he's backing in Brazil seems to be growing especially influential in various ways, although US soldiers are not much at risk and the Covid may shut it down for a while - along with his immediate and enthusiastic expansion of the longterm American terrorist operations in the Middle East (some of them predate WWII). (Like all fascist demagogues Trump favors expensive and high tech means of violence, uniformed parades of obedient men under a flag, big explosions, State torture of "enemies" - stuff that one obtains most easily via war).

    He is even adding heavier weapons and other war gear, paramilitary and other grey ops terrorist units, and a barrier wall, to the southern border of the US - we haven't had a "terrorist war" (a slipshod term, but you depend on meaningless language to obscure your claims) with Mexico for a long time, but nobody has forgotten how it's done.

    Meanwhile Trump, like all modern Republican presidents, pushes autocratic strongman government worldwide - part of his personal profiteering, with hotels and the like, and also part of the Republican agenda: backing private capitalist corporations with the US military world wide. It's called "fascism", among the people who pay attention to such things. It always leads to war - at least of the "terrorist war" variety.
     
  21. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    Apparently the road to a militarized and triggerhappy State of violence is paved with anti-war intentions.

    Even so: Anti-war political motivation that somehow leads to complicity with the fascist takeover of a democratic republic is a bizarre confusion to see in fullgrown white American men.

    Maybe it's just been too long since the full consequences of such a takeover were visited on - or even visible to - such complicit Americans. It cannot be - as it has been in most places so afflicted - a tragedy stemming from enforced ignorance and regimented opinion: American white men have had the opportunity to be the best educated and most easily educated adult human beings on this planet.
     
  22. iceaura Valued Senior Member

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    You posted garbage you swallowed in ignorance from sources of deception that have been playing you for a fool all along, to abet slandering honest people who have been getting things reasonably straight and treating you with respect, people whose worst mistakes have been made in their good faith attempts to communicate with you and those like you.

    The naive minions of the American media have had a hard time understanding, see - they were raised in a country supposedly moving toward liberal humanism and competent governance of a free citizenry, they keep thinking that reason and persuasion and stuff like that will engage the kind of voter who looked straight at the news from the Iraq War and re-elected the people responsible for it.
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    The scene in America, as near two thirds of the population of white men have the consequences of their years of betrayal and folly and abuse of their neighbors smashed into their faces by an inescapable reality, is still deteriorating. The rest of us have to prepare for their reactions - they aren't showing much sign of healthy mental adjustment, they were dangerously whack decades ago, they are still running the country, and they are not available to reason - the reality deprivation box they live in is not going to fold itself up and stash itself in the closet of broken toys.
    https://driftglass.blogspot.com/2020/10/newly-repurposed-bush-off-machine-is.html
     
  23. candy Valued Senior Member

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    Since DJT is in hospital I will remind you that he has done a good job in the peace area.
    Serbia-Kosovo agreement.
    Abraham Accords.
    I do not think the war-monger label fits well.
     
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