Religion and women.

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  1. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    No They’re not
    I’ve no idea what you’re talking about
    This is why men shouldn’t be emotional.
    You go with it mate

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    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
    Yes.
    Why do you ask?
     
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  3. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Talk about not explaining your dumb claims
     
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  5. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I've forgotten what your original claim was, with all your childishness. I guess it wasn't ever important.

    How convenient for you.

    This what?

    I see you're unable or unwilling to expand on your thesis.

    In your case, you've already damned yourself.

    Don't think I didn't notice your avoidance of two straightforward questions about your beliefs, just in the last few posts. You're afraid to tell us what you really think. You're ashamed that you think that, maybe.

    You're a really bad apologist for your faith, Jan. Maybe you're actually taught in your religion - Hare Krishna, wasn't it? - to dissemble and evade and generally act like a troll. I'm thinking it's probably just you, though.

    I assumed that you'd be familiar with the various parts where God orders the slaughter of whole townloads of people, the killing of homosexual men, and that kind of thing. The God of the bible also endorses slavery. But you - the "scriptural expert" - must know that.
     
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  7. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Don’t think I don’t notice your avoidance of almost every question I’ve asked since knowing you in these forums.
    You’re an atheist, you have no clue as to what is God, or what it is to have faith in God.
    You’re just an angry person James.
    I hope you can overcome it.
     
  8. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth,. Why don’t you ever talk about that?
     
  9. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Name caller!

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    You not explaining what you’re talking about is convenient for me? How so?
    You really can’t work it out?
    You see what you want to see.
     
  10. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    I cannot honestly state that I am..

    Are you a Sexist, Jan Ardena?
     
  11. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    No.
    Are you sexist DMOE?
     
  12. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Chillax, Jan Ardena...no need to Shout or Yell my name!
    the simple dmoe will more than suffice.
    Cheeses! I do not Shout or Yell JAN ARDENA!

    Now as far as me being a Sexist...hmmm...???
    Would I be deened Sexist, Jan Ardena, if I could not muster even the tiniest iota of any kind of respect for men(?) ?
     
  13. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ^^deened^^!!!???
    ...senior moment...
    Should read deemed !
    ...My Bad!!!???
     
  14. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    <<insert popcorn eating emoji>>
     
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  15. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    ...white cheddar?...caramel?...melted butter?
     
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  16. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    All of the above.

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    Joking aside, these topics usually end up in talking past each other. Sexists aren’t really going to admit that they’re sexist, because they don’t see anything wrong with their world view. Some use the Bible or Qur’an to support their views, some are atheist sexists, some were raised to believe women are second class citizens, and so on.

    I wonder how sexists view and treat their moms and sisters, though. Those interactions usually offer a window into a sexist’s mindset. Or if they were raised in a household watching their dad berate their mom. Not always but often, that’s what kick starts sexism in many men. (studies have shown this correlation) It’s learned behavior, at any rate.
     
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  17. dumbest man on earth Real Eyes Realize Real Lies Valued Senior Member

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    Like I opined in your "friends/network" thread : It takes all kinds.

    Moms and sisters...and the permanent 'scarring' that they often afflict their daughters with is entirely inexcusable.
    I witnessed way too much of that behaviour in the military...and just like it seems to be on this Forum, the majority of those men(?) were not Theists either.
     
  18. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    Thank you for yet another example of your sexist worldview. This thread is indeed useful - as a demonstration that there are still people like you in the world.
    Why is it that the people who are always lecturing other people about the Bible - are also the ones least likely to know what's in it?

    But I will give you a head start.

    Numbers 31:

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    And the LORD said to Moses, “Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites. After that, you will be gathered to your people.” So Moses told the people, “Arm some of your men for war, that they may go against the Midianites and execute the LORD’s vengeance on them. Send into battle a thousand men from each tribe of Israel.” So a thousand men were recruited from each tribe of Israel—twelve thousand armed for war. And Moses sent the thousand from each tribe into battle, along with Phinehas son of Eleazar the priest, who took with him the vessels of the sanctuary and the trumpets for signaling. Then they waged war against Midian, as the LORD had commanded Moses, and they killed every male. Among the slain were Evi, Rekem, Zur, Hur, and Reba—the five kings of Midian. They also killed Balaam son of Beor with the sword. The Israelites captured the Midianite women and their children, and they plundered all their herds, flocks, and goods. Then they burned all the cities where the Midianites had lived, as well as all their encampments, and carried away all the plunder and spoils, both people and animals. They brought the captives, spoils, and plunder to Moses, to Eleazar the priest, and to the congregation of Israel at the camp on the plains of Moab, by the Jordan across from Jericho. And Moses, Eleazar the priest, and all the leaders of the congregation went to meet them outside the camp. But Moses was angry with the officers of the army—the commanders of thousands and commanders of hundreds—who were returning from the battle. “Have you spared all the women?” he asked them. “Look, these women caused the sons of Israel, through the counsel of Balaam, to turn unfaithfully against the LORD at Peor, so that the plague struck the congregation of the LORD. So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, but spare for yourselves every girl who has never had relations with a man."
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    Since that was long I'll condense it. The LORD told the Israelites to get vengeance against a people for some religious reason. When the army returned, Moses was angry because they spared the children and women. He told the officers to kill everyone - all the children and most of the women - except for the virgins; the men could keep the virgins for their own 'use.'

    So I did the work for you for the first one. For the rest, please go and read that book you are always thumping on and learn what's in it.
     
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  19. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    And the dumbness begins...
    wiki - All caps can also be used to indicate that a given word is an acronym.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_caps
    I suggest you speak clearly and objectively.
    Are you sexist DMOE? It should only require a simple yes or no answer.
     
  20. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Hi wegs, I see you’ve avoided my questions.
    Why?
     
  21. Jan Ardena OM!!! Valued Senior Member

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    Explain how you being emotional, and irrational, and me pointing it out, is sexist?
    Don’t just quote scriptures, explain why.
    Let’s discuss without being emotional.
    Then again, you are an emotional man, there’s hardly any chance of that

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    Anyways... is a black person who call a black person the “N” word (I assume you know what that is, and it’s not sexist to think that), a racist?

    please please please answer that one.
     
  22. wegs Matter and Pixie Dust Valued Senior Member

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    @ Jan - Because you’ve dismissed my replies and called me dishonest. We’re not really getting anywhere productive.
     
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  23. billvon Valued Senior Member

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    "men should not be emotional." That's like saying "blacks should be smarter."
    OK. To simplify it for you -

    If the Lord tells Moses to kill all the men, kill all the children, and kill all the women except for the virgins so his men can rape them - that's a bit sexist, don't you think? Sexism is actually the LEAST of the problems with such a holy commandment, but we can start with that.

    Excellent attempt to change the subject away from your sexism! You must feel you are losing the argument rather badly.
     
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