Religion will prevail

Discussion in 'Religion' started by Luchito, Mar 24, 2021.

  1. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    I read about ten books about Edgar Cayce when I began to research the paranormal back in the early 1990's and I arrived at a quite different conclusion partly due to the case that can be presented that somehow Edgar Cayce was able to assist a lot of people with medical problems that most doctors during that time period could not help people with.
     
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  3. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    That would be false.
     
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  5. Dennis Tate Valued Senior Member

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    One of us is more well informed about what was done by Edgar Cayce... .it is either you or me.....
    and the other one of us is less well informed.


    I personally am one of those people who tends to be impressed that Mr. Edgar Cayce arrived at conclusions regarding reincarnation that is consistent with the Dr. Ian Stevenson research that spanned three or more decades.

    You would probably tend to be offended by his giving that type of reading.
     
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  7. Dywyddyr Penguinaciously duckalicious. Valued Senior Member

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    Me.
    You.
    What you actually mean is "They both made up, or imagined, similar types of sh*t".
     
  8. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Luchito:

    I get that you don't understand the theory.

    There's no ranking of species as "inferior" or "superior" in evolutionary theory. There's nothing intrinsic about an individual that makes it superior or inferior to another individual. From an evolutionary point of view, it can be better adapted to its environment, or not so well adapted. That's all.
    No. You have variation confused with evolution. Hint: one leads to the other.
    What's your explanation for how species change? Or do you believe that species don't change?
    I don't know where you're getting your information about what the theory says. Since it's so badly wrong, I would try to find a better source, if I were you.
    Then your theory is wrong. Period.
    Nonsense. You don't even have a theory. If you had one, you would have told us what it is.

    You bluster and preen yourself and crow that you have evidence and your theories are proven and all that, but you're never able to provide a shred of an argument to support anything you say. Who do you think you're fooling?
    Not "by their own will". Their camouflage is an evolutionary adaptation.

    But why did you ignore my example of the insects, and the direct question I asked you, referring to that example?
    Wrong. Like I said, it's an evolutionary adaptation.
    Another empty claim by you. If you knew, you'd tell us what you know. But you never manage to produce the goods. All you seem able to do is to make empty claims that you have them.
    Did you forget that I told you that your attempts at disproof by ridicule are pointless? Why do you persist with that childish nonsense? It's because you have nothing else to offer, isn't it?
    Not every time, but often enough for natural selection to take advantage of the beneficial ones.
    Depends whether it is a harmful, neutral or beneficial mutation. You really don't have a good grasp on this, do you?
    Then they were wrong. Maybe they mistook some other animal for a lion. What's the relevance of this?
    When? What's the relevance of this?
    Please link me to the evidence that supports this. What era are you talking about? Are you trying to explain why, at some point in time, there were no horses in the Americas? You're saying they were there, and then they died out, or something?
    Correct. And so...?
    On the Origin of Species was published in 1859.
    Well, maybe, although that particular example sounds completely invented. But so what? "Evolved" can mean lots of different things. You need to get specific. You deny natural selection, don't you? Explain why. Do you deny random variation as well, or just natural selection? What's your alternative explanation for the diversity of life? What do you want to replace the theory of evolution with?
    Religion isn't a scientific theory. I don't know what you're so threatened by.

    Are you worried that if the theory of evolution is correct, your faith in your God or religion might be shaken to its core?
    I gave you a specific scenario of birds eating insects that disproves your claim directly. You ignored it and had no response. Why?
    Don't you understand the theory? Where did I say nature has a brain, or anything even vaguely resembling that? Why are you trying to erect a straw man, rather than addressing what I actually put to you?
    Correct. And so... ?
    Yes. Obviously, you need some basic education about the theory of evolution. It sounds like you've been getting all your information on evolution from your church, or from Answers in Genesis or some other unreliable source. I can teach you some actual science. You should take advantage of my greater knowledge, if you want to learn.
    That sounds like a really confused, half-arsed sort of idea you have there about antibiotic resistant bacteria. Just the way you phrase the question makes it clear that you have no clue what you're talking about there.

    Please try asking me again. Start with a sensible, clear question.
    Some bacteria have evolved resistance to one or more antibiotics. Do you not believe this? Are you denying the fact that some antibiotics can't kill the bacteria?
    Another empty claim that you have the goods. But once again you don't offer anything up. If you had the "real reason" you'd just tell me what it was, rather than spouting this nonsense about not telling me because I won't accept it anyway. Grow up, Luchito. I'm an adult. You'll need to act like an adult too, if you want to have a proper discussion with me. These kids' games of yours, and your playground posturing, don't impress me. How old are you? You sound like a teenager who has convinced himself that he knows everything, and who is slow to realise the truth.
    There's little point in my engaging with you on this topic, because you are simply in denial of observed facts. As has been pointed out to you, the GPS system your phone uses simply would not work if time dilation never happens. Close your eyes and bury your head in the sand if you like; meanwhile, the rest of the world will accept established facts and operate on that basis.
    So far, you've been utterly incapable of providing anything to support any of your grandiose claims.

    Well, you never know. Maybe you'll provide some actual evidence or argument in your next post. I won't hold my breath.
     
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