The first experimental measurement of God; to a 2-decimal point accuracy

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  1. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    That's obviously false, George, because here you are, talking to the very people you're trying to disparage.

    Since you've been pushing your "proof" of God for 20 years and getting nowhere, it seems very likely to me that you have a LOT of spare time to "waste" talking to people who can explain your "theory" better than you can.
     
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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    I hope the final draft will fill in the glaring holes and correct the many errors in this rough outline.
    The God you're talking about has nothing to do with the God of the bible, then. And it is not a being with an independent existence from a person's mind. Okay.
    No. Baldeee has helpfully corrected your error.
    Your curve is meaningless.

    What measure of "growth" are you using? How does that measure apply to both a "genotype" and a "phenotype"?

    I don't think you know what a genotype or a phenotype is. Fortunately, Baldeee has explained it for you, above.
    Of course not! Because they can't be directly compared.
    This "God" language you're using to describe a particular mental phenomenon is just a distraction. You should leave "God" out of your final draft of this paper. It just obfuscates the point you appear to be trying to make.

    Does this mean that your original claim in this thread that you have "proved God" is really just a claim that you have proved that a mental phenomenon exists regarding how people perceive the passage of time as they age? It seems like there's no reason to use the word "God" there, then.
    A man, fully grown or otherwise, can't be a mental phenomenon, George. That's a basic category error. I don't see how your thesis can possibly be salvaged with this level of error.
    This is a complete departure from how you defined "God" just a few paragraphs earlier. This makes no sense, George. You're rambling.
    We can use a tape measure to measure the invisible man inside a person's head? This is bizarre, George, even for you.
    It's good that, at some level, you recognise that you're writing nonsense that nobody will accept. Hold that thought.
    No. See Baldeee's explanation.
    What are the 13 symmetry axes of a cube? Please explain.
    What do Olympian gods have to do with mental constructs involving the perception of aging?

    Also, you seem to be making a random connection between the number 13 and Olympian gods, but the number 13, on its own, doesn't point unambiguously to Olympian gods - or anything else. You have to make the link explicit.
    Wait! How did we get from your "mental construct" definition of God to the God of the Bible? Are you saying that somebody wrote about his mental construct in the bible and so Christians ended up mistaking that for an actual supernatural being? That seesm to be your implication. You should make this explicit in the final paper.
    This is the first mention of Einsteinian curvature or of subjective spacetime reality, whatever that is. You need to define your terms, George. Remember that you're pretending to do science here. You need to dress it up to resemble science, at least. Otherwise, nobody publishing a journal will be fooled.
    And it's a mental construct. Got it.
    Why? That adds nothing to your claims.
     
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  5. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    Unfortunately, as if yet more evidence of your lack of intellectual rigour is required, you can't even get that right.
    My first post in this thread was #802.
    Your reply to me (#804) said that you "scent academic credentials".
    It was my subsequent response (#806) where I stated that "Credentials are irrelevant".
    In context I stand by that statement: one can have all the credentials going but if one rights that 2+2=5 then no peice of paper or qualification will make it correct.
    As such: credentials are irrelevant - it is what you actually write that matters.
    Usually the credentials go some way to helping you understand what it is you are writing about, and will probably give people some confidence that you know what you're writing about.
    But the credentials don't mean that what you write is necessarily correct, or that it stands up to scrutiny.
    As such, credentials, in this context, are irrelevant compared to what you actually write.
    That's not the context it was stated in.
    See above.

    Whether I have credentials or not is irrelevant: if what you wrote is illogical, unsupported, flawed, or simply incorrect, then no amount of credentials you hold is going to change that.
    If I have no credentials, as you are suggesting, then that also does not change what you have written.
    A child can point out to you that 2+2 does not equal 5 as much as someone with a PhD in Mathematics.
    And even if noone points it out to you, 2+2 still won't equal 5.
    Whether I do or not, the flaws, errors, unsupported assertions, and fallacious logic of what you have written remain.
    I'm not asking you to.
    I'm simply pointing out to you that your notion doesn't hold up to scrutiny, and providing some feedback on where those weaknesses / errors seem to be.
    Even to me, someone you now hold to be incompetent.
    As said: the flaws, errors, unsupported assertions, and fallacious logic of what you have written remain.
    You can choose to address even the ones that I, someone you hold to be incompetent, have identified.
    You can choose to explain why they are not errors, flaws, fallacious logic etc, by, perhaps, actually explaining and supporting what you write in a logical manner.
    Your choice.
    Your fallacious appeal to authority is noted, as is your reliance upon your assumption of my lack of credentials.
    As for attacking you: I did refer to you as a crank (#821), which was probably uncalled for at that time, as I only had 30+ pages of this thread upon which to base such an assessment, and other forums / message boards where you have raised this "proof".
    But other than that I have only attacked your "proof", which is what scrutiny and review is all about.
    It is up to you do defend it, if you can, or to revise it if you can't.
    All you are doing, however, is making an argumentum ad hominem (i.e. asserting that I lack of credentials as reason not to respond in good faith), appealing to authority (re: credentials), and otherwise ignoring everything that has been raised against your "proof".
    I guess that's why you spend time here, then?
    To avoid your own company?


    Look, George, you have posted what you consider to be a "proof".
    It isn't.
    For all the reasons even someone as clearly incompetent and uneducated as I have pointed out to you, such are the basic errors you have made.
    Unfortunately you seem to think "competent" equates to "agrees with George".



    Baldeee [Still more qualifications than you]
     
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  7. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    As with all pseudoscience, there are the occasional truths.
    To wit: a cube does indeed have 13 axes of symmetry, which is shown in the below:
     
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    Indeed. Past academic credentials are far from guaranteeing that a person will not later go nuts, which is what seems to have happened here. I actually wonder if it was his failure to complete his PhD - perhaps a breakdown of some kind - that set in train this obsession of his with academic credentials. But the fact he has been stuck on this topic without any discernible evolution, for 20 years, must be evidence of some mental condition or other.

    I expect he will be content to argue back and forth, pointlessly, here ad infinitum. What he probably wants more than anything is some kind of audience, even a hostile one.
     
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  9. Baldeee Valued Senior Member

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    I have no experience in psychology, so can not comment.
    He is not really arguing, though, is he.
    Each time one of his assertions is questioned, or support is asked for, or a flaw identified, he just blusters and then starts repeating the same thing, moving on to someone else.
    That's not arguing, that's being a troll.

    On another website/message board, for example, he rejected any criticism by a PhD in Physics because they lacked experience in Psychometrics, despite the crticism being raised having nothing to do with Psychometrics.
    Here he is showing much the same behaviour: rejecting criticism this time due to a perceived/assumed/wished-for lack of competence, rather than responding to what is actually said.
    At no point is he actually addressing those criticisms.


    I guess as long as he's not hurting anyone...

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  10. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [GE Hammond MS physics]
    Thanks for the "rotating cube video" Baldeee
    – that's really terrific !

    James R made a comment that "my research
    has been stalled for 20 years" with me making
    no headway.

    That's NOT true- for 40 years now, every year
    there has been a new discovery – just 2 years
    ago I discovered that Jeffrey Gray's well known
    "SHS" (septo- hippocampal system) which he
    proved regulated "Anxiety" actually controls
    all 13 of the "cubic personality factors".

    I discovered it on this wise: – first I discovered
    a "decussation" in the "Papez Loop" that
    explained his other well-known dimension
    "Impulsivity ":

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    thus it not only explained BOTH of Gray's dimensions,
    it actually unified his 2 dimensions with Eysenck's
    2 famous dimensions E and N – and watch this now –
    I published that discovery in the PEER REVIEWED

    literature in New Ideas in Psychology (Elsevier 1994)

    Then – Gray decided to rotate his 2 dimensions out
    of the E-N plane and into the 3rd dimension –

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    so I immediately realized that his SHS controls not
    only E,N.A and I – but actually controlled ALL – 13 of
    the cubically intercorrelated personality dimensions
    of the brain.
    Unfortunately for the great Jeffrey Gray
    he did not live to see his greatest triumph – the
    discovery of the neurological basis of the Structural
    Model of Personality
    (SMOP).

    That was only a year and a half ago
    so my research history has never been stalled – it
    has been constant and ongoing year after year –
    decade after decade with CONSTANT DISCOVERY.

    Just thought I'd let you know the truth.

    George

     
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  12. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [GE Hammond MS physics]
    Don't be a fool Beaconator – "God descending
    from heaven" is a BIBLICAL METAPHOR.

    The scientific reality is that the "fully grown man (a.k.a. God)"
    is fully mapped in the unconscious mind – and continues to
    increasingly manifest himself in the "real phenotypic Man"
    hour by hour, day by day, decade by decade all of our lives.

    And every adult in the world has noticed it – whether they
    know what it is or not !

    And this is the real meaning of "God descending from
    heaven to earth" – wake up for Xsakes – whaddau
    think billions of people have been talking about for
    thousands of years?

    And now we've got a rigorous detailed hard scientific
    proof of it !


    George
     
  13. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Sex?????

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    [GE Hammond MS physics]
    Okay, someone asked me if I had a "picture"
    of the "CUBIC BRAIN". Here is the closest
    I can come to it: –

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    This is the embryonic CNS (Central nervous system)
    where the brain is at the top of the diagram.
    Notice the top 2 bulges labeled "telencephalon and
    diencephalon", this is later the "cortex" and the
    "limbic system". So so far we have "2" lobes – but this
    diagram is known to be neurologically "bilaterally
    symmetric" (Sperrian lateralization) – therefore we
    now have 2x2=4. But then we notice that we are only
    looking at the ventral (motor) half of the CNS – the
    dorsal (sensory) half has been removed – therefore
    we now have 2x2x2=8 (L-R –D-V – cortex/limbic )
    FUNCTIONAL BRAIN LOBES. IOW – – an 8
    lobed – – "CUBIC BRAIN".

    Hope this clarifies what I'm talking about !

    George
     
  15. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Nope

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    alamy

    OXO

    got it correct

    This looks

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    nothing like a OXO cube

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  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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  17. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [GE Hammond MS physics]
    I have "generalized, clarified etc." this anatomically/
    functionally CUBIC brain structure in the following
    diagram: –


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    And shown below this "idealized cubic brain" are the
    empirically measured "cubic psychometry results"
    measured and peer-published by 38 scientists over a
    period of 40 years –
    – – THAT EXPERIMENTALLY PROVE IT !

    George
     
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    As the great Fog Horn once stated:
    Hammond just throws his belief in a god into his idea with no reason other than wishful thinking and assigns it to a number.
     
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    No it doesn't!
    Only a complete fraud or an ignorant would claim it does!

    Oh, look, I can draw something in 3d!
    Therefore must be cubic!
    Therefore it is PROVEN to be linked to everything else that is considered cubic for the same reason.

    Oh, look, there are 13 cards in each suit in a deck of cards!
    Therefore these are quite obviously linked to the 12 Olympian gods, and from there, obviously, to the 12 2nd-order personalities "types" that Cattell established.
    (Let's ignore the difference between 12 and 13, though!)

    Oh, look, a "baker's dozen" has 13 in it, but because it has the word "dozen" in it then it must link to 12!
    Therefore 13 = 12!
    So anything with 13 in it must equate to everything else which has 12!

    Oh, look, there are two words in Biology (that I don't really understand the word of, but that's okay, 'cos surely noone else will either) that are to do with who we biologically are.
    Therefore the gap between them must of course be God!

    Oh, look, the brain has multiple parts!
    Let's take only two of them ('cos, well, taking others wouldn't fit my conclusion) and multiply them twice to get 8.
    8! Therefore it must be considered "Cubic"!
    And therefore it is yet again EXPERIMENTALLY PROVEN to link directly to everything else that is "Cubic".
    And therefore it is EXPERIMENTALLY PROVEN that my Rubik's Cube has 12 personalities (or is it 13? Or is it God?)!

    Oh, and I must be right, as I've got an MS in Physics, was published once back in 1994, and also managed to have my photo taken with a well known person in the field of Psychology.
    What more could I possibly tell you before you accept my PROOF!



    Seriously, Mr Hammond, what you're posting is garbage, and you're treating this forum, and its members who have taken the time to honestly review what you have offered, with utter disrespect.
    I have no doubt you've posted this nonsense in many places over the years, and have no doubt each and every one of them has sent you packing for being the crank you so obviously are.
    I look forward to the day that this site does similarly.
     
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    [GE Hammond MS physics]
    Okay Baldeee – there's one more thing for you to disagree with. If you actually read post #1 of this
    thread, at the end of it you find a short comment
    on a "microtubule" theory of life after death.

    I have reproduced the full version here – for your
    comments. Not only am I claiming 100% certainty
    of the existence of God – but I am also claiming a
    33% chance of a literally real life after death !
    George

    A simple “airbag” theory
    of Life After Death


    Text © George Hammond 2017 Note illustrations are copyright by other scientists

    Dreams are simply daydreaming while asleep.
    Dreams however are visual hallucinations as
    opposed to mere visual recall. This profound
    difference is caused by the fact that we are in an
    altered state of consciousness while asleep. Life
    After Death is the same thing .... microtubule-
    dreaming is a far different state of consciousness
    than ordinary dreaming … In this case it is a full
    blown (all 5-senses) hallucinatory world called
    Heaven. The phenomenological similarity between
    Dreaming and Life After Death is remarkable ...
    and is certainly the original historical argument for
    the existence of Life After Death. Quite recently a
    "2nd line of argument" has now become the
    existence of "microtubule-consciousness" so called
    ... and it's super phenomenal characteristics which
    actually makes such a thing as Life After Death
    scientifically plausible! For those not familiar with
    microtubules let me brief you. It's been recently
    discovered neurons are full of microscopic hollow
    tubes called microtubules shown below and light
    travels thru them and memory is recorded in them
    by light.


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    TOP = Microtubules inside a neuron

    MIDDLE = Magnified 250,000 times

    BOTTOM = Light inside a microtubule

    Microtubules remain alive for 30 minutes after
    death, and I believe that Life After Death is caused
    by these optical signals. Light is so fast it can
    download a 3 year Afterlife in a split second just
    like a computer downloads a 3 hour movie in a few
    seconds. Ordinarily memories are "recalled" at the
    uT level and played back slowly by the microtubule
    system at neuronal speed, but it could play them
    back at full microtubule speed, if say the neuronal
    system which normally receives them was
    discovered to be dead (flatlined)! So this must be
    what the microtubule-airbag Life After Death
    system does... it plays back 3 years of 100 Hz
    neuronal memory at full microtubule optical speed,
    1015 Hz, in 10 microseconds... a 10-trillion to 1
    speedup, but in this case the neuronal system is no
    longer "you, the observer", the microtubule system
    IS ! Therefore, the observer‘s "proper time" is the
    same for this new "uT observer" ! So while the
    bedside observer sees the person die in a few
    seconds, the dearly departed would spend 3 years
    in Heaven (his wristwatch time) during the same
    instant. While this may seem amazing to non-

    scientific readers, it is routine to Relativity
    physicists who experimentally see it in atomic
    physics experiments every day. So what we see is
    that Evolutionary Biology apparently discovered
    the “airbag survival mechanism” millions of years
    before General Motors did! An automobile airbag
    inflates in 100-milliseconds and prevents you from
    hitting the dashboard, thus saving your life. In this
    case an “optical-airbag” goes off in the
    microtubules of the brain in 10-microseconds,
    10,000 times faster than an airbag, and we
    experience Life After Death before our brains can
    be destroyed! . So, this microtubule system is so
    fast, it can actually beat death! Any kind of death...
    even a lightning bolt, just like a car airbag can beat
    any type of collision irregardless of how fast it is!
    Finally, the all important argument for this theory,
    is the notion that while the neuronal system cannot
    produce a "glorified body", the microtubule system
    can. The reason for this I believe is because the
    existing neurons that would have been connected
    to the "missing growth deficit body cells" are not
    capable of actually "firing" so they never appear in
    a dream (the former fact is evidenced by the rare
    but well known accidental firing of these
    unconnected neurons causing a congenitally
    missing phantom limb to suddenly appear, full
    sized) . So while we never achieve a glorified body
    in a dream, I believe the microtubule system inside
    these normally "inactive growth deficit neurons" is
    largely functional so that the microtubule system
    as a whole, does possess a "glorified body" (a
    phantom fully grown body similar to a phantom
    limb), but quite obviously the only place it could
    appear is in the Afterlife, since it is exclusively a
    microtubular phantom. It appears to me then
    entirely scientifically plausible, that we do end life
    as Angels in a spiritual world! Therefore, I
    conclude from this startling new evidence, that Life
    After Death, is today scientifically very plausible!

    George Hammond, Hyannis, Sept. 30, 2017


     
  21. George E Hammond Registered Senior Member

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    [GE Hammond MS physics]
    Take your sunglasses off – time to dummy up and
    makes sense !

    Walt Disney illustrated the modern day pantheon
    of gods
    Mickey Mouse, Donald Duck, Porky pig, Bugs Bunny,
    Goofy, Popeye, Olive Oil, – at least 13 major gods,

    2500 years ago the Greeks decided that there were
    "12 Olympian gods" – (turns out they were off by one)
    not bad for sheer guesswork
    !
    13 GREEK GODS
    Zeus, Hera, Poseidon, Apollo, Artemis, Aphrodite,
    Ares, Hephaestus, Athena, Hermes, Demeter,
    Hestia, and Dionysus

    THE POINT IS – that the two lists (Disney and Greek)
    describe the SAME 13 SYMMETRY AXES OF THE
    CUBIC BRAIN
    – – and therefore are eternal and
    will exist as long as Man exists.

    For X-sakes is time to dummy up Great Foghorn !

    George
     
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    I wouldn't call death an altered state of consciousness since you're, ya know, dead.
     
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  23. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    If If If people are alive after dieing why don't they climb out of the coffin?

    OK 33% chance of becoming alive after dieing means 67% chance of dieing after dieing. Got it

    What determines your odds?

    No kidding?

    You are way way behind with humans having 5 senses, senses are much more enumerated (homework time George>

    It would be If If If said similarity of Life After Death and Dreaming occured

    How? Airbags require a accident to occur. When death occurs bit late for microtubules to consider "Ummmm should have a life after death back up system in place"

    Thought historically life after death myth is / was about being good and not pissing off god, life after death being your reward

    Well it HAS to be scientifically plausible to have any chance of being real

    Sorry I can't go on. This sillyness is rotting my 3 remaining neurons Huey Dewey and Louie

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