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  1. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    "The basic rule of thumb is supposed to be to not do things that bring the cops to site ownership's door."

    Tiassa

    Didn't that change, the basic rule of thumb, when Russians killed people in Ukraine? I don't think I'm supposed to quote from locked threads, but hey, get killed by a Russian bomb, haled into a mass grave and not even having the option of killing yourself.

    Just because I started a thread with the title "suicide" wont make it unproductive.

    I wanted to know about chemical reactions. The Ukrainians just died without a choice.

    Is there some perfect world you wish of? Does your hope for humanity increase by locking my thread?
     
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  3. DaveC426913 Valued Senior Member

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    I've given Bw/S a pass before for his constant attention-seeking talk of masturbation, coupled with his objectification of women as sex objects, but suicide trolling crosses a line I've never seen anyone cross before.

    Playing the "suicide card" to get attention is the lowest of the low. Posting a recipe for suicide is where he hit bottom and started digging. What a terrible person.
    I reported it in the hopes that it would immediately get locked up so as to discourage such egregious trolling.

    Beer w/ Straw is a contributor to the reputation SciFo has as a haven for immature trolls. He goes to the very top of my 'ignore forever' list.
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  5. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    So, some geezer over the internet doesn't like me.

    Put me on ignore and be proud.
     
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  7. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i read the thread once it was closed

    at first i thought
    oh this is beer with a straw reaching out for help(i was wondering how quickly i could give you some advice)
    then i continued reading and realised it is beer with a straw trolling the subject of suicide to talk about something else

    bad form

    i was suicidal back in late October
    didnt tell anyone
    was deciding what to use
    & then luck smiled on me enough for me to reach out to mental health services in time to get put on meds

    didnt tell my psychiatrist i was suicidal either.
    didnt tell my doctor
    didnt tell anyone

    now im on anti psychotics and anti depressants & have anti anxiety meds

    this is the only web site and only location where i have said i was suicidal.
    i was roughly 2 weeks away from killing myself
    i had set a date
    knew what i was going to use had that sorted
    was thinking about how clean it would be for my family

    thankfully i got help in time through self referral to mental health services
    then about 5 days after i started medication i won an out of court settlement for 10k us$ in lost wages
    which ive been spending on my recovery.

    soo
    im keenly aware of such subjects and have a desire to try and help those genuinely in need of help.
     
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  8. sculptor Valued Senior Member

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    OK
    as/re suicide
    imho
    anyone who has not contemplated suicide is gifted by a total lack of introspection.
    but then
    We have responsibility:
    Who is gonna clean up the mess?
     
  9. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    i have
    big mess
    picking pieces of skull and brain matter off furniture & scrubbing the blood out of the walls.
    took me 2 weeks to clean the room, rip out the carpet & burn some furniture that was beyond saving
    then spent another week going over it again looking for things i missed
    spent around 3 weeks cleaning a lounge covered in blood and brains and bone fragments
    wiping down dozens of books to wipe the blood off and not damage the books
    a book case was right beside them i think they used an explosive round 308 round customized with dynamite tip possibly

    still haunts me a bit
     
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  10. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Nice that SciForum engages in bright side of life and its members are not restricted to dull esoteric abstract contemplations

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  11. Bells Staff Member

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    I'm sorry, but you're comparing an apple to a prawn.

    You literally posted instructions under a title "suicide" and then commented how you weren't able to access certain medications and decided to, and I quote, "buy over the counter stuff, overdose, and be be done?".

    You might have wanted to discuss chemical reactions, but that's not how you framed the thread, title or subject matter. Nor did you indicate as such as the thread wore on. Instead, you decided to troll it despite members clearly showing concern for your welfare.

    So no, you don't get to gaslight people or tilt whatever windmill you're spinning on, comparing your instructions on how to commit suicide with the war in the Ukraine.

    And let me just say this. If you feel suicidal or you have suicidal ideation or have contemplated it, then the best remedy for you is to contact your doctor or call an ambulance, or call a helpline or family or friend for help.

    And as cruel as this is going to make me sound, we are not a counselling service. We are not equipped for that. If we think someone is about to off themselves, we may not have an obligation to act as our role here as members or staff, but we will feel a moral obligation to do so and we will live with the guilt if something happens and we weren't able to stop it in time. We have had to do this before and it was distressing for all concerned.

    So don't post about such things as a joke, or because you think it's cool or because you just want to troll others. It's actually quite distressing and while yes, your instructions would open us up to all sorts of legal issues if someone read your post and decided to do it or send it to another and they followed it, it would also haunt us that we allowed it to happen because we didn't shut your thread down in time. Also keep in mind that your post was open to anyone online to read. Any kid or adult with suicidal ideation or tendencies could look it up and your post would have been right there, with instructions on how to do it with over the counter ingredients.

    Let me repeat, Beer. If you feel suicidal, want to self harm in any way, shape or form, are contemplating it, have a plan in place.. The you need to seek professional help from a mental health service as soon as possible. Don't post instructions on how to do it online.
     
  12. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    In attempt be relevant and scientific is the idea cannabis from yeast:

    https://www.futurity.org/cannabinoids-yeast-thc-cbd-1996952-2/#:~:text=Yeast can make marijuana’s valuable ingredients 1 CBD,drug factories. ... 3 A tough challenge.

    A long time ago I inquired about this on a home brewers forum and managed to get myself banned in one post. No shirt off my back and since and since Amazon isn't giving away high tech laboratories at bargain prices thought to drop the idea.

    This forum, however, I valued enough to contact a mod for help in getting a new PC logged in.
    If this is even being attempted and marijuana legalized, which in my country it is, it is inevitable. Which is why posting that video of the guy making an ethanol sugar wash with wine yeast is relevant.

    And lumping cannabis, ethanol and diphenhydramine hydrochloride altogether with suicide more relevant, I think, but I should have used the word: death.

    I was however pondering suicide, but told the police that showed up at my door that if they could tell me the meaning of life and a billion dollars things would be cool. This has to do with things concerning seeing my father, who knows he is worth more dead to me than alive, wanting to pay off my student loan so I can easily re-apply, who also bought me the new PC.

    Plus the hate in my heart probably had something to do as well.

    I have, however, figured out the meaning of life

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    The idea of carbonating, say a double chocolate stout, fun. I wish I could turn water into weed as that'd be awesome. I know many people who use it just like alcohol and the and the whole idea seems stupidly religious.

    I know I'd be holding people's lives in my hands if I attempted to make my own alcoholic beverage and I know these chemicals would come into contact with each other. I'm not a total moron, it says right on the box "Avoid alcoholic beverages." Yet, I am more concerned with the boiling point of methanol.

    The ideas seem very fun but I want to be sure of myself first.

    :EDIT:

    I know it's a picture of the last supper but it also means I can cure lepers so to say. That's if and only if alcohol and weed

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    is the solution to all of life's problems. This is a science forum and if we could cannabis from wine yeast as easily as that guy got ethanol, we could greatly affect the lives of millions.
     
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  13. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    What can I say, I'm an attention seeker.
     
  14. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    what i recently discovered(2 months into my diagnosis and mental health assistance) was my best friends daughter had attempted suicide several times and my best friend had been fighting to save her life over the space of several months.

    myself 1st to survive
    you have to put yourself 1st in many aspects to maintain health, physical and mental so its a nasty round-a-bout there with all sorts of issues that interlink.
    people who commit suicide do not do so as a selfish act, they often appear to be quite the reverse of selfish people.

    soo "myself first"
    stands out to me as a concept that rings a few bells on many different levels to many different people.

    and again
    attention seeker seeking help
    or attention seeker seeking activity for the ego(inner self)

    to get help one must seek attention
    &
    be selfish(to some concept of twisted thinking)

    im glad you managed to find a path for yourself amongst the chaos and noise.

    it is very depressing and stressful being around someone who is near the end of their life through sickness
    or being around dying people and elderly people without having certain personality attributes.

    im lucky to have spent some time around people who can cope with such things and i have attempted to learn their skill sets from them for coping with psychological and emotional high stress and trauma.

    my childhood was very active with high highs and low lows and a parent who was plagued by mental health issues and high stress so my own childhood has many triggers in it which puts me in a high risk group.

    as much as we often do not wish it
    words can have great power
    and some people can be easily put into difficult positions.

    conversely it can be very stressful to be able to conceptualize another persons position in life
    soo being aware of those impacts on others can its-self be additional stress needing additional coping mechanisms.

    im glad you have found brewing
    im allergic to beer and wine LoL
    i would quite like to make a still if i had the right space
    im lucky i do not suffer from alcohol addiction so it would be a scientific hobby for me.

    right now i have the mental image of the scars on my friends daughters forearms that she showed me from several attempts.

    i have a few mental images of stuff like that, that makes me take a moment.
     
  15. C C Consular Corps - "the backbone of diplomacy" Valued Senior Member

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    [Deleted quote - that contained instructions]

    Well, if at first you don't succeed... Try, try again.

    Referring to that personal wellspring of tenacity or determination in getting a "recipe" posted (that lacks precise ingredient measurements). Not to repeat suicide attempts, death, etc.

    Maybe just don't affix any purpose slash consequences to this "combination" at all. "Hey, I came across this funny formula or remedy. Can anybody tell me what it's for?" (Accompanied by a naïve halo emoticon.)

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  16. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Very recent read cannabis linked to suicide

    Even more recent suicide now the 2ñd leading cause of death in America

    Why don't you sell America to Mexico and at least get something for it before Mexico takes it over anyway

    Keep Alaska to live in and Hawaii to holiday in

    Give up being the world's policeman on patrol. You were not very good anyway

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  17. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    If you're meaning I may wield the powers of the force like Jesus Christ to heal lepers, you'd be right.
     
  18. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I somehow take comfort in that you'd seem to have this be a political question.
     
  19. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Nooooooo stay on track

    Suicide is topic (?), having many possible reasons and placing it in a mix of personal / social / weak medical problems

    Will make medical community more involved as Public demand (mostly American public) plus politicians (again American) medical community solve the problem

    At same time asking (telling / demanding) medical community solve the problem whilst creating more of the problem, public demanding cannabis be legalised and politicians obliging

    Where is that mythical Benevolent Dictator when you need one? One who will relieve you of all personal responsibility

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  20. Michael 345 New year. PRESENT is 72 years oldl Valued Senior Member

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    Medical professionals have beaten you to the finish line

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  21. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    ideologies & morals & laws are inherently political key subjects

    just like legalizing the production of alcohol including its storage




    who or what is the subject ?

    reads like your giving the mods the middle finger because you have not posted anything saying you understand.
    looks like you dont understand or are unwilling to.
     
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  22. Beer w/Straw Transcendental Ignorance! Valued Senior Member

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    I just decided to roll the dice on this one. Even with pondering the risk of getting permanently banned.
     
  23. RainbowSingularity Valued Senior Member

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    flaunting salaciousness ?

    what type of reader were you hoping for ?
    technical & informed . . . ?
     
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