UFOs (UAPs): Explanations?

Wrong. Pilot Cmdr Fravor said he observed the tic tac one moment, and then the next moment it was gone. That's exactly what suddenly accelerating to mach speed looks like. And that matches Day 's description of the uaps ascending to 80, 000 ft and then suddenly descending to sea level at incredible speed. See video in #8657

 

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That's a conclusion. It's also what one thing disappearing and another thing appearing elsewhere looks like.

You know this. You know perfectly well that there is more than one possible explanation; it just happens that you prefer the more exotic one. Don't be dishonest.

 

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A UAP disappearing and another one appearing somewhere else is more exotic than a UAP flying at hypersonic speed from point A to point B. When hearing hoofs, suspect a horse not a zebra.

 

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No. Two similar objects in the sky is quite mundane. Happens all the time. Requires no advanced technology.
Losing sight of things and gaining sight of things is quite mundane. Happens all the time. Requires no advanced technology.

I can show you pictures of multiple non-aerodynamic things in the sky; we have evidence such things already exist.

You cannot show us pictures of one non-aerodynamic thing moving supersonically; you cannot show they exist.

Correct. You have zero evidence of your zebra. Whereas horses are a dime a dozen.

 

The AARO has already concluded that such supersonic uaps exist. I've already posted about this and the video showing one. You can't pretend not to know this.

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Yep. That's a still image. It shows no sign of moving supersonically.

Because such things don't exist, as far as we know.

You know what does exist? Losing sight of one object here and gaining sight of another object elsewhere.

That's what makes it more plausible. That's what makes it the horse, not the zebra.

 

Wegs made some comments about the tic tac not being seen as flying at supersonic speeds. I was simply responding with statements on how that was ascertained. I have the right to address raised issues involving previously stated accounts.

Which is why I go by the accounts of those who were actually there. Beats giving credence to a skeptic's specious and agenda-laden armchair speculations.

It's the AARO director's oral testimony to Congress based on analysis of 650 cases. Do you think he is lying? Why?

 

You mean this one?

https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/download/kirkpatrick-statement?download=1

Excerpt:
"I want to underscore today that only a very small percentage of UAP reports display signatures that could reasonably be described as ‘anomalous.’ The majority of unidentified objects reported to AARO demonstrate mundane characteristics of balloons, unmanned aerial systems, clutter, natural phenomena, or other readily explainable sources. While a large number of cases in our holdings remain technically unresolved, this is primarily due to a lack of data associated with these cases.

I recognize that this answer is unsatisfying to those who in good faith assume that what they see with their eyes, with their cameras, or with their radars is incontrovertible evidence of extraordinary characteristics and performance. Yet, time and again, with sufficient scientific-quality data, it is fact that UAP often, but not always, resolve into readily-explainable sources. Humans are subject to deception and illusions, sensors to unexpected responses and malfunctions, and in some cases intentional interference. Getting to the handful of cases that pass this level of scrutiny is the mission of AARO."

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"I should also state clearly for the record that in our research AARO has found no credible evidence thus far of extraterrestrial activity, off-world technology, or objects that defy the known laws of physics. In the event sufficient scientific data were ever obtained that a UAP encountered can only be explained by extraterrestrial origin, we are committed to working with our interagency partners at NASA to appropriately inform the U.S. Government’s leadership of its findings."


No mention of supersonic anything. Care to provide your own citation?

 

And just to get closure on this particular one:

"Humans are subject to deception and illusions, sensors to unexpected responses and malfunctions"
- Dr. Sean Kirkpatrick Director, All-domain Anomaly Resolution Office

 

“What we have done is reduce the most typically reported UAP characteristics to these fields, mostly around 1 to 4 meters wide,” said Sean M. Kirkpatrick, director of AARO, who appeared in front of a subcommittee of the Senate Armed Services Committee, describing how UAPs mostly appear. “Silver. Translucent. Metallic. 10,000 to 30,000 feet [in the air] with apparent velocities from the stationary to mach to no thermal exhausts usually detected.”--- https://www.vice.com/en/article/7kx...drone-spotted-metallic-orb-ufo-in-middle-east

 

Entire transcript of the April 19, 2023 meeting, not just the Sean Kirkpatrick statement:
Senate Armed Services Committee on Emerging Threats and Capabilities
Link to transcript of whole meeting:
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/download/transcript-4-19-2023
Or go straight there:
https://www.armed-services.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/23-31_04-19-2023.pdf

 

Again, a general statement, defining a category for disparate incidents, it says nothing about supersonic except 'up to Mach' and it says nothing about tic tac objects.

In other words, you are once again trying to confabulate multiple incidents as if they all have the same characteristics. And they just don't.

 

No...No confabulation of multiple incidents. It's a general description of the metallic sphere uap as seen in many accounts and photos and videos. And it's solid confirmation of what many eyewitnesses have claimed to see. Simple as that.

Then it does say something about supersonic speed. Mach speeds are supersonic. Do I have to spell it out for you?

 

https://youtube.com/shorts/7RR_eRAyfGQ?feature=share

This pilot is having a hard time keeping his cloud cover wrapped around him

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Yes, yes. Yes it is.

Up to mach. So: sonic. It says nothing about faster than that.

 

Speed of sound is

• about 761 mph
• in atmosphere
• on a standard day
• at sea level
• static conditions

Sub sonic - Up to speed of sound
Sonic - Speed of sound (Mach)
Supersonic - Above speed of sound

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Correct.

 

British astronomer's 30 yr quest tracking and theorizing on UAPs. Looks like SOMEbody out there is taking this seriously!