Was Nazi Germany anti-Islamic?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by nico, Jul 4, 2003.

  1. nico Banned Banned

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    This picture really shed some light on the question:

    http://www.skalman.nu/third-reich/gallery-foreign.htm

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    Soldiers of the Handschar division
    reading antisemitic propaganda


    And on the pamflet you see the words Islam und Judentum. I highly doubt they are flattering Islam and Judaism. I would like to know what you think. Because now I am confused.

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    Also of interest is the Indian nazi regiment: Legion Freies Indien i wonder did they consider Indians Aryan as well? I think they might have.
     
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  3. Tiassa Let us not launch the boat ... Valued Senior Member

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    Very interesting ....

    Google search "aryan india"

    Notice the several "Myth of Aryan Invasion" links. I have much reading to do on this anyway, because I've never quite understood the whole of the Aryan story of the Indus, even in general terms.

    This is the first time I've ever seen this kind of a connection, though. Nifty.

    As to Islam ... I'm sure there's a story there; I wonder who has told it ....

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  5. WasiGermany Banned Banned

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    nico ,you know that an invasor always finds support in the country he invades /wants to invade !
    germany had volunteers even from russia
    i have seen so much nazi-propaganda poster from so many countries.....
    the created volunteer-units everywhere they were on the map !

    for the islam :

    well ,i think even the nazis had problems with understanding it all !

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    jews = biggest enemy of the reich
    arabs = enemy of the jews - so german "friends"

    this is how the most people understand it !
    what most people don´t see is that the nazis are also the reason for this "little problem" in israel/palestine

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    they helped those european zionists to create isreal !

    reinhard heydrich (aryan prototype ,the most powerful man after hitler and himmler ) said this :

    "as a nationalist - i´m also a zionist"


    when you see the situation NOW in ME ,you can say Nazi Germany was anti-Islamic!
     
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  7. nico Banned Banned

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    Wasi I don't think that you can say that India was invaded by the Germans can you? No. But I am wondering as to how and where these division came from? I know the Indians were fighting with the Japanese, but the NAZI's! I am not if that was a propoganda pic, I don't it is. Obviously the Nazi's had something on Islam if they put it in the same booklet as the Jews.

    "as a nationalist - i´m also a zionist"


    Was that said before or after the war? Also I don't think Hitler would realize that the Nazi's would have a policy of losing the war, and that it would help create the Israeli state.
     
  8. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    HHmm, now im relaly getting confused. all ive randomly come across has talked about the aryan invasion.
    It makes me really interested in what was happening in central asia 4 or 5 thousand years ago. And are there any decent genetic studies covering most of the worl yet, I want to know more about the movement of peoples.
     
  9. nico Banned Banned

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    Go to the pic:
    Eastern volunteers being instructed

    That guy crouching down looks mongoloid doesn't he?
     
  10. WasiGermany Banned Banned

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    this statement was made before the war
    you also have to know that nazis just wanted to get rid of the jews ,however !

    for india :

    hehe ,it was probably like we´ve seen in many countries in the cold war .....
    the brits had india ,and so hitler wanted india ( ok ,this is only a guess ,but i think it´s that easy)
    hitler surely never saw indians as aryians ,but he needed them ,that´s all


    ps : i know ,india wasn´t invaded by germany ,but they wanted the whole world ,so india would of course be warzone (sooner or later )
     
  11. WasiGermany Banned Banned

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    as i said nico ,they took everybody that wanted to fight for them ;very desparate tactic.....

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    i´ll try to give you a complete list of those "freiwilligen-korps" (volunteer units)
     
  12. nico Banned Banned

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    you also have to know that nazis just wanted to get rid of the jews ,however !


    From what I read the Nazi's offered to send all the Jews to Spain, and N.Africa ( I think on N.Africa).

    hitler surely never saw indians as aryians ,but he needed them ,that´s all


    Well I don't think so, Hitler sure did have a thing about Indian culture i.e. the swastika itself was from Hindu mythlogy I believe meaning destruction. I could be wrong of course. But I think Hitler had a thing with the Iranians, and the Indians. Aryans, and Indo-Europeans supposedly originated from that region.
     
  13. prozak Banned Banned

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    <Yawn> Anti-Nazis, and mulattoes like Tiassa, attempt to discuss Nazism.

    First, the Aryans were a population in India of the ruling classes. The people of India today resemble the people of Europe today genetically more than any other race; this much is indisputable.

    Hitler's officers patrolled India during the war and many of his most outspoken supporters came from there (including Savitri Devi, a French-Greek woman who married an Indian man)

    http://savitridevi.cjb.net/

    If you want to understand NS occultism, the Bhagawad-Gita and Rig Veda are not bad places to start. They resemble the spirituality of the northern peoples.
     
  14. WasiGermany Banned Banned

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    the swastika and the sunwheel are nordic/germanic/teutonic symbols i thought !?!?!

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    and no nico ,you know that he only wanted "blonds with blue eyes " ,rarely seen in india

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    i´ve also to say that hitler wasn´t this mythology-freak .....you have to look at himmler for such things !

    ah ,i almost forgot something :
    hehe ,this "offer" to send jews to spain ,n.africa was very expensive ,not everybody could afford it
     
  15. nico Banned Banned

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    The weird thing about it all is that the Indian culture of India, and her religion Hinduism. wasn't unlike the religions of the Scandavian peoples. Thor and gang, Vishnu and the gang, I think Prozak was talking about that. So IMO there was a reason for a Indo-Germanic alliance of sorts. Also there was a good link on the new religion of the German state under Nazism. I don;t have it but it shows the Swaztika and the sunwheel, and it explained it. If anyone has the link. It could shed some light on this.
     
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    i´ve seen just yesterday a docu about himmler and the nazi-researches about the aryan origins!
    himmler thought indeed that tibet could be the descent of aryans ,but he also thought that aryan origins could be found in atlantis ( no joke ,they searched for it)
     
  17. nico Banned Banned

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    Yes that Atlantian theory was pretty screwed up, do you have a good link? I think that Nazi Germany would have thought twice about the sub-continent, from Iran to India, and now it seems Tibet. I think it would be good if we could compare the religions of Hinduism and Nordic faith in Thor.
     
  18. SuperFudd Registered Senior Member

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    Am I the only one that sees it?

    India, during Hitler's reign, was ocupied and ruled by England! (DUH)
    Certainly many Indians felt that any enemy of England was a friend of theirs. When German forces were sweeping all resistance before them, and in the direction of India, those Indian's dared hope that that they would be liberated, much as the Ukranians were.
    Clear enough?:bugeye:
     
  19. nico Banned Banned

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    Superfudd

    You must understand that Nazi Germany never offered India her independance. Japan did your using the wrong historical example on this one. For instance Hitler didn't really want to destroy the British Empire, thus no independance for India. It's not so "DUH!" now is it?

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  20. WasiGermany Banned Banned

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    sorry ,i have no links about it
    what i don´t understand is (don´t get me wrong!) how indians & co fit into this nazi view of the world .....

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    blond & blue eyed ,not brown and black eyed --- this was their opinion ,wasn´t it !?


    @superfudd

    i already mentioned it ,can´t you read ?
     
  21. nico Banned Banned

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    Surely that is correct Indians were not exactly the "ARYAN" ideal but I think personally that if the Germans actually believed that that region has Aryan links, I believe although I don;t have evidence

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    but still the Aryan ideal may have come from that region. Blodne and Blue eyed? Sure they would be the higher caste but most Germans weren't Blonde and Blue eyed, and I think that the Indians would be at a lower caste.
     
  22. WasiGermany Banned Banned

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    ( dear indians ,take no offense

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    really nico ,when they let indians in their aryan gen-pool ,they can let everybody in

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    himmler and martin borman were already planning the future of the german blood ,they wanted much more of those blond&blue eyed guys

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