Why Windows XP also can be cracked ?

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If it were not for Microsoft changing the software like they have since 3.11 with even the small invention of the ICON! then computers and therefore technology would not be where it is today. Face it, Windows is a better product for masses of people *who are basically PC illiterate* producing data. UNIX is good and LINUX and the other BSD and such are all great but lets face it, the average user and a hell of a lot of business users wouldn't have a clue in hell how to navigate to the root! Windows make PCs easier for users to be productive. I am for Windows, for it has brought me plenty of business over the last 7 years

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Say the words SU ROOT in an office building and only the Network Admins will perk up if they are not just running Server2k over a Sun System

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As for MS getting your personal information from the installation of XP SP1??? WTH is that crap, haven't you ever heard of the Remote Installation Download from MS where you can download the SP and take your PC offline to install? You don't have to send crap to MS and do you really think MS is keeping tabs on literally MILLIONS of users, not even MS can support a DB that big and not get anything back for it. Now Big Brother can but what the hell does he know. Hmmm, if he checks one of my 10 machines then he knows I like to Program in VB, Play UT2003 and Tribes, and that I make a crap load of images using PSP7-8, Corel 10, and Adobe Products ?? Ohhh big deal. Ever since MS got popular for being easier to use for the average noob all this conspiracy crap started rolling. It is all a bunch of crap. The only people who should worry about MS knowing what they have on their PC are the people who are using those products illegally!

 

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It's not only the new-"I don't know what the hell this machine does"-users that use windows. I use windows because I would rather have a working OS and actually be able to produce something worthwhile than try and get my OS to work in order to be able to do anything else. I hate screwing around with getting my network up and running. I hate trying to find drivers for my 20 components. I hate trying to find semi-compatible programs to do what I want. SO, instead of fuss over all of that, I use windows. I can fully setup a windows 2000 pro. install in 2 hours max. It took my 3 days before I could finally get drake installed on my own system.

It's not because I am a noob, or I don't know what I am doing. It's because, for some dumbass reason the video driver that comes with the install only run at 800x600. When I try and use my video card specific driver, I can't get to any GUI. Oh, sure I could probably download the driver from the manufacturers website, but how the hell am I supposed to do that without a browser to browse with or even a network connection to network with? This is one of the many problems I have had with "the best os out there". Well this is what I say: Poo...on...you.

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Stop here! Microsoft never did it FOR its customers but WITH its customers (we are all beta-testers that pay for it). No bugs in XP? LOL... 2 days after the first release, Windows XP was not able to read a DVD because of a virtual memory error! I don't say that there are perfect OS but Windows is far away from this point.

Dream, dream, dream...

I'm not coming back on Windows and IE past... That's one of the reasons of the Internet/PC success! What I dislike is the the way they control everything : they catch every new idea, modify it (with mistakes!) and say that it's a new norme (their new norme that you will pay for...).
I know what is Palladium and who is building it... (that's Microsoft... AMD, Intel and others take care of TCPA!)

Are you using Windows 98? No? So use Mandrake 9.1...
I know that there are some problems with the drivers but Linux is younger than Windows!

 

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No database could store so much informations? Hey, you're a webmaster! Wake up...
I'm using some Microsoft products illegally (in fact most of them) but I don't fear Bill Gates.

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Poor SG-N

Did someone say you were sexy because you used linux?? Keep trying hard to make that perfect server.

But with windows I can produce a great web site using any database I wish, in days and have it run for years without errors, resets, or hack attacks.

I can create (apart from content) in just a week a heavily interactive multimedia presentation and I cant trust windows to run it day after day without fault.

I need to display 1million trees in real time and I only have a day.. Windows.

Even hacking is easier with windows..

Whats even better is that my 75 year old mother uses XP to create patterns for her sewing machine, and my 82 year old dad is creating DVD's with his system and a digital video camera. Priceless memories. Even my 98 year old grandmother can start a windows machine and communicate via email.

I dont think that you understand the depth of Bill Gates dream in the 80's. It is finally starting to materialize.

I don't mind if you walk while we all run.

 

I've got a news for you : you're 53 years old while I'm 24! I think that you know more things than I do and you may understand some few things that I don't but about CS... I will always get faster in understanding a new program than you (as a 14 years old teen will do it faster than I will)! That's why you need "easy" going stuffs while I can use Linux... (NOTE : Here I'm not saying that you're a old guy that can't use Linux or things harder than Windows! I just say that it's easier to use Windows for those who get slower -- respectfully)

Don't worry about me! I'm not walking while you're running : I use the latest useful OS (Mandrake 9.1, Windows 2000 pro...) and I don't care about Bill's dream... (don't dream! he just wanted to make money).

Thanks to Microsoft everybody can use a PC but I guess that if Microsoft would have not existed, we would have something else today.

Why do I dislike Microsoft? I already said it : the way they use people to make as much money as possible ($120 for an OS that has bugs and that you have to buy with every new PC - but if you know the laws...). I'm not "killing" Windows - that's a good stuff for family and (sometimes) for professionals - but while it's not "perfect" it should be cheaper!

 

Hey your what we older people call a punk...
Punk is cool. Ohh no offence.. I was a computer punk.

14..Go for it man.. I first started at 13. Don't follow the norm.

Believe me when I started Linux was just a dream.. Windows is part of the greater dream I had at 18, and it is becoming reality..

It is your job, the next generation to push the boundaries. Please don't get entangled in political crap. What you want computers to do is where we should go.

All i do is make a very good living out of Microsoft. Nice car, nice house, nice boat, and god dang sexy wife. I just cant fault Microsoft.

 

Then I agree with you "old man".

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Thanks to understand my point of view as I understand yours... even if we may disagree about some little points.

The "punk",

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13 years old... that was in 1963! What did you do in 63 while you were still 13? There were no PC, only computers in some universities... :bugeye:

 

SO, after that I have to ask...SG-N what kind of job do you have? and Do you use Linux more often then Windows in the workplace? I am assuming of course, that at 24 you have a job and are still not going after further education.

 

The first time I ran into a problem with Microsoft Activation procedures was when I bought a new computer. It would say that this product had been registered before. I had to contact the maker of the computer and get them to contact Microsoft before the activation period ran out. Then I could not do it be the internet. I had to go through the phone and retype a 25 digit enabling number to keep it going.

Cracked software is out there and it keeps going without having to contact Microsoft to activate it. I could have but why? I bought a perfectly legal machine. Why should I have such problems for a new computer?

One of the first things I did was obtain a piece of software called Antispy. Basically, it turns off the phone home links to Microsoft. I resent them looking at my computer, without my permission. Just like I resent those popups and other programs like AOL, Xputer, Juno, ect. They quite literally bog your computer down to no end while they transmit the latest ads, ect for you to enjoy on your machine without bothering to ask if you want to give up your bandwidth that you paid for. Basically, they are stealing to give you something you don't want! Spam is no different...

 

SG-N

Your the one that has assumed my age. I'm still a youthfull 30 something.

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First computer purchased 1982 after washing cars for half a year to raise the money.

 

testify : I'm still at university (in fact I'm doing my final training job and I'll "really work" in 3 months) where I'm doing my 5th (and last) year. Have a look on that table. I'm doing a DESS in France (postgraduate in our system). My specialisation is "IT security" (Computer Science) thus I both use Windows and Linux.
Here, for my training job, I use Linux every days...

Blindman : 30 match better with your informations...

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2 points (from another ancient one)

1. Microsoft have always made their software easy to use without licence because it facilitated incredible market penetration. The parents brought home the work copy of shiny new Office '95 and thats what the kids used in school, then work. As they have achieved 100% ish saturation and we are (culturally) too weaned on MS products, they can now force a high percentage of the population to PAY or RETRAIN eek! (office will be next). Us techie smartypantses don't care because we can crack the stuff, however many many business/people will fork out the cash rather than fear being tracked down like kiddie porn morons.

2. Netscape shot themselves in the foot a long time ago. When Netscape 2 came out it used to take about 15 seconds to load. IE, which did exactly the same thing took about 3. All us techs at the time who just wanted surf, found it a lot better for that. The trend continued.

Never attribute malevolence to something, when incompetence is available in abundence.

 

If you are caught with too many computers running some certain software without the right amount of licenses any business is sure to be in a load of legal trouble. All it would take is a simple audit from the IRS to know how much software is being wrongfully used. Anyone going to school to be a network admin learns right away that under no circumstances should you have more software running then there is licenses, simple as that.

 

Correct, as an employee its in your best interest to push the your accounts to cough up for the software. Drugs are bad (at least at work). I'm not being argumentative about piracy morality, just trying to explain somewhat why MS products have their market penetration. Bear in mind that the majority of Microsoft users, exist outside the US. In most European (all African/ S.American / Pan-Asian) you cannot be audited at home (no scary IRS.. its nice to live free). Unless you have been naive enough to use your credit card for an illegal service. Small business have to be a little more careful, but not much and are in my experience only half licensed. Its illegal, BIG FINES in Europe, but you have a much better chance of being hit-by-a-meteor kind of thing. I have worked for several governments and blue chip American owned corporations, who did not have a CLUE how much software they were running. In these situations MS turn a blind eye for business reasons, or depend on offering a bounty to employees who rat. Still you get a telephone calls and warning letters far in advance. There has been little historical culture of fear.
Paranoia due to the uncertainty of XP's ability to tell Bill is changing this. Most governments of THEM don't worry too much about foreign companies losing revenue and make only token efforts to enforce the laws. Its unlikely to be in their national interest, to see their own tax paying businesses, buried by MS lawyers. These laws are always handy to have on the books however. Many criminalish business can be caught like Al Capone, if not for their activities, then for piracy..

Remember the Y2k audit BS? It was NOT FUN manually inspecting a 160 office WAN. This was because MS did not provide an adequate tool for a global audit in the OS. The registry could have easily been built with a list of ALL SW licences for admin query, it did not (yeah, I know there were other ways but they did not satisfy our rigorous/mindless auditing procedures). I never heard the other SUCCESSFUL SW vendors crying out for this either.. Now that market share is no longer the game, things are changing.

Its my opinion that MS, have run the longest, most successful free period promotion in history and are going to be rich some day

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If it was a plan, it was brilliant.

Been up all night, writing too much.. apols....

 

Somehow, I think a Nazi OS would work better than Windows.

 

Computing since the 1970's through the days of Unix, CP/M, Osborne and Sinclair.

Have always been terribly sad that Gary Kildall snubbed IBM and let them default to Gates and Allen - suspect IBM is too.

Gates has done nothing, NOTHING, for Personal Computing that would not have been done better by others such as Kildall.

Well,,, I am wrong about that, he has set Personal Computing off on the wrong road with wrong code and disgustingly wrong morals.

Again, I remind you that I was there before Gates, and saw his feeble efforts, and failures time and again. His success is NOT due to any technical expertise but the mindset of a crooked lawyer - daddy was a lawyer - and the morals of a thief - he has pirated and stolen many others ideas, patented them and then denied the creator use! He has used the courts as his handmaiden to steal from others then whines `free enterprise' when the table turns. For him to argue piracy is like BlueBeard arguing theft of his treasures.

If you want details do your own research but do NOT listen to the opportunists and hucksters to whom school and training is some MicroSoft Certification and who are only qualified to ride the coattails of the master.

 

It's a shame that as a programmer to make a living you are practically forced to use Microsoft if you have any hope of reaching a large audience. Especially as a game programmer, there's just not a large enough market for Linux games.

 

Then again, if the Linux community actually responded to the userbase's needs, it might be a different story.

Microsoft = corporate software

Linux = people with more egos than brains