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  1. SG-N Registered Senior Member

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    Jerrek that would speak French forever?! Wait, he will do it in hell... because that would be hell for you Jerrek, no? Oh yes, and his new nationality would be... French! Mouha ha ha....
    Sorry, my dark side was taking control... (Mouha ha ha...)

    OK, anyway, I don't think that this story is true... That sounds so stupid, even from US soldiers, that I would put it in the "Urban legends" category.
     
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  3. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    Ghassan Kanafani,

    Your Ad Hominem is pathetic, you should learn more critical reasoning.


    And this would be ?

    First provide an explanation for what you call pathetic , and be a bit self-critical as well since your entire post is nothing but what you accuse me of .
     
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  5. otheadp Banned Banned

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    ghassan, he's right. your argument skills and reasoning are very poor. more often than not, you make no sense at all when you present a counter point.


    and as far as the topic goes, ....just brings a smile to my face. arab propaganda is just so damn funny

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  7. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    It's stories like this one that make me wonder if freepers are posting posing as arabs - totally off-the-wall stories, with no backing references or proof, and a poster that couldn't be less credible if he tried. Meanwhile, other threads lapse into the archives because the freeper posters can't prevail against their arguments.
     
  8. otheadp Banned Banned

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    since the fall of saddam, the # of newspapers in iraq increased from 9 to 150. the 'news' that some of those papers report are just so damn funny.

    theories about iraqi supermarkets being flooded by 'zionist goods', and how iraqis should be vigilant and check every product they buy... to look on the bottom for a "jewish star". even if it says "made in malaysia" check extra few times just in case.
     
  9. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    othedap, can we see those papers please?
    Not that I don't trust every word that comes from your keyboard and Jerreks and Clockwoods or anything....
     
  10. otheadp Banned Banned

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    those papers are not connected to the internet.
    i read it on the Jerusalem Post website a few days ago. they're a respected website.
     
  11. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, after all, what kind of bias could an Israeli newspaper have against Iraq or it's arabic peoples?

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    I'll believe the reports when I see the papers.
    After all, if it's that silly, won't the broadsheets in the US and Europe run the story as (at least) human interest?
     
  12. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Anglo-Centric views? What the hell are you talking about? I already speak German, thank you very much. (Well ok 3 years in high-school, I should say I speak SOME german, hehe). How is my refuting your idiotic fabricated story anglo-centric?
     
  13. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Assuming that the explosion of press is true, I see no reason as to why some having made up stories would be false.
     
  14. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah, after all, it's not as though credible journalists will just magically spring into existence the very day that a larger market for news comes about. These things take time, and the Iraqi people are going to have to learn about reporting standards.

    Look at America for instance, our journalism industry is massive, and it's been around for quite some time, however even after so many years of practice, refinement, and cultural feelings of responsibility on the part of most serious journalists, we still somehow ended up with Fox News. Just goes to show that respectable journalism takes a long time to master!
     
  15. Persol I am the great and mighty Zo. Registered Senior Member

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    Hehe, perhaps learning how to bend the truth was one of those 'refinements'
     
  16. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Ghassan Kanafani,

    I never stated an argument in this thread or any other claim, hence I have no ad Hominem

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  17. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    WellCookedFetus ,

    You presented an argument as well as statement :

    Statement : you should learn more critical reasoning.

    Argument : Your Ad Hominem is pathetic .

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    Mystech :
    Anglo-Centric views? What the hell are you talking about? I already speak German, thank you very much. (Well ok 3 years in high-school, I should say I speak SOME german, hehe). How is my refuting your idiotic fabricated story anglo-centric?

    I called your views anglo-centric not because of your refutement of the story the thread-starter unleashed , I called you anglo-centric because of the comments toward his language-skills .

    The argument would be another issue , btw you only refuted the part about the helicopter . It is reasonable to consider that there are soldiers who wish to desert , perhaps have lost a pal (i mean quite a few are dying nowadays) hey they're not superman . Ive heard some stories about this as well , sure I dunno but its not fair to say they dont happen .

    I think there are articles about this , however USA would obviously never admit and on the other hand Arabs make propaganda as well .

    Hey doesnt the same go with that suicide issue ? Or is that validated ?

    we still somehow ended up with Fox News. Just goes to show that respectable journalism takes a long time to master!

    Foxnews amazes me , rather the opinion about foxnews amazes me .

    Ã?nyways its not a question of mastering hournalism in USA , but a question of dividing between bias , and one partical cause gets an "all good" overal .

    Anyways moving on to the funny-section :

    otheadp

    your argument skills and reasoning are very poor. more often than not, you make no sense at all when you present a counter point.

    You know we should have one of them -stop killing me Im dead already- smileys

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    for comments of the week like this one , and we should have idiot awards as well .

    dude , u should really stop making yourself look like a dick .

    really your an embarisment to yourself .

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    mr ... but "we evolved over the years" , and "arabs got whiter in america" and "but they wear scarfs they're not christian" remarks and you even dare to question my argument skills and reasoning LMAO

    Go sit in the corner and bow down with that ass up in the air u damn unbeliever , lol .

    keep 'em coming you're great

    arab propaganda is just so damn funny

    Im sure you were talking about thye newspaper and not Iran , but to be sure I though Id remind you Iran isnt Arab .

    theories about iraqi supermarkets being flooded by 'zionist goods', and how iraqis should be vigilant and check every product they buy... to look on the bottom for a "jewish star". even if it says "made in malaysia" check extra few times just in case.

    You can laugh all you want but its only logical and natural for zionist products to flood the stores as they are the ones who are there now "rebuilding" the economic sectors . They are in charge so their products are the ones who get priority , DUH . You know how many countries cant wait to get in but arent allowed because the USA divides the shit to whom they please ?

    I understand how you want to ridicule everything into being Arab propaganda , and although their conspiracy-fear might be very funny now and then , not always is everything bullshit just because it involves zionists .

    i read it on the Jerusalem Post website a few days ago. they're a respected website.

    respected by who ? lol

    freepers are posting posing as arabs

    woooooohoooooohooooooo
    waaaaaahaaaaaahaaaaaaa
    weeeeeeheeeeeeheeeeeee

    Sparkey-boy is so amazed by the Arabs , he simply doesnt believe this could be them .

    Anyways Sparkey-boy , the one you question in here (I assume) sais to be semi-American (who'se daddyo is in Iraq) and semi-Egyptian Christian so ...........

    On the other hand ...... since you really dont care much for individual points and call everybody "freepers" ......

    It really doesnt matter now does it ? Psst : Go see Q he knows all about the Arab-Muslim conspiracy .
     
  18. EI_Sparks Registered Senior Member

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    Mystech, would you mind not holding up the US media as an example of good journalism? It's upsetting my stomach slightly, and I can only imagine the fits it is putting real journalists through...
     
  19. ElectricFetus Sanity going, going, gone Valued Senior Member

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    Ghassan Kanafani,

    "You should learn more critical reasoning." is not a premise its a conclusion, two of which makes a statement or advice. If I had said: "You are attacking others with a ill choice of words, you should learn more critical reasoning" that has premise and conclusion. If you reverse your analyses results then I would be making a red haring fallacy in that now I have diverted the issue on to how you make fallacies. I don’t have a argument or statement at this time to the threads issue... I just been spending my time trying to correct you.
     
  20. ThePHNX Registered Senior Member

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    Well; for my part I wish we had all been more `Anglo-centric' in 1940, that way the rest of you would ALL be speaking German.

     
  21. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    You were more anglo centric in 1940, you helped us.
     
  22. Ghassan Kanafani Mujahid Registered Senior Member

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    PHNX
    Well; for my part I wish we had all been more `Anglo-centric' in 1940, that way the rest of you would ALL be speaking German.


    Not me Im not European

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    And I already speak German , lol .

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    guthrie
    You were more anglo centric in 1940, you helped us.

    Yes , allofasudden half of Europe wasnt considered European enought to be worth helping .

    WellCookedFetus :

    You should learn more critical reasoning." is not a premise its a conclusion

    I do not claim otherwise . I said it was a statement and the other part was its argument , you may translate statement to conclusion excuse me if I was not clear enough I assumed the other to be the argument would be enough .

    Just because I wrote it first doesnt make it a premis :

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    Statement=conclusion : you should learn more critical reasoning.
    Argument=premis : Your Ad Hominem is pathetic .


    IF ad hominem pathetic > learn more critical reasoning .

    If you reverse your analyses results then I would be making a red haring fallacy in that now I have diverted the issue on to how you make fallacies.

    Wich I do not , my argument is exactly as is in your post .

    I donÂ’t have a argument or statement at this time to the threads issue... I just been spending my time trying to correct you

    Idem dito
     
  23. Mystech Adult Supervision Required Registered Senior Member

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    Well it's got British journalism beat hands down, I can say that much. Is there even any real journalism left in the UK? Even the BBC is getting pretty editorialized.
     

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