The liberal American media

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  1. truth Registered Senior Member

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  3. otheadp Banned Banned

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    i don't trust any media. CNN, FOX, BBC (the worst one) they're all freakin liars.
    their goal is to
    *make money
    *make it as interesting as possible for the dumb zombie couch potato
    *make more money

    everything i read there is taken with a big ass grain of salt.
     
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  5. Guru Registered Senior Member

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    CSpan

    I find CSPAN the closest to unbiased way of reporting. Wolf Blitzer was asked whether CNN is a liberal media and he said no it is conservative. Also I feel that the polling done itself does not say anything…like we realized 70% of the people believe 911-Iraq connection which is not true(endorsed by current administration)…

    And you have to be very closed person to only read one source or only rely on American Media … there are many newspapers on the internet. I myself read newspapers from 4 different countries one of them from Middle east…It gives you a broad picture rather than listen to profit driven media from one end of the world…. Specially I find the TV news Media to be Band Wagoners(if I may) , everyone has to follow the same news headlines…I speak from my visit to CNN studios in Atlanta….they keep a list of News channels open to follow the same news more than 2 channels are following to be in the trend…

    So Yes Media is Biased one way or the other ..it is your duty to rise above partisan thinking and reach out for other sources…remember the policies are driven by humans not machines…
     
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  7. Captain Canada Stranger in Town Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting theory but FYI the BBC is a state-funded non-profit organisation.

    Anyone actually got some examples of how this liberal media infects us all with dishonesty and lies? I can think of quite a few pro-conservative biases, such as:

    No interest in link between Bush family and Bin Laden family
    No interest in Bush's cocaine past
    No criticism of Bush until Rovegate - this would have destroyed any Clinton White House. Bill gets a blow-job in the Oval office and a Special Prosecutor is hired, the Bush administration commits an act of treason and it gets a little investigation.

    The list goes on...

    It's just that conservatives see bias wehre their propoganda is not boradcast ver batim and without question.
     
  8. kajolishot Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.sunspot.net/features/bal-to.fox04oct04,0,5444015.story?coll=bal-features-headlines


    Yeah, american media is not fair and balanced enough.
     
  9. candy Valued Senior Member

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    I favor a mix of sources of information. Wall Street Journal is my favorite but try to watch BBC World News occassionally as well as the US network broadcasts in addition to the local papers.
     
  10. SpyMoose Secret double agent deer Registered Senior Member

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    I try to get a good mix. I tend to watch the, at times, obnoxiously concervative Fox News channel more often than anything else because they are playing to the lowest common denominator, trying to entertain the bubbas that would be concervatives by yelling and alwayse trying to put a humorous spin to make liberals look silly. Then I watch some CNN when I want some more accurate info, and then ill watch c-span and c-span2 which are good if something is actualy happening in the congress right when you are watching it.

    Really most of the "Unbiased" news services get that reputation by only reporting what the government does official press releaces on, so they really are bias, just not by thier own principals, they let themselves become government propaganda outlets.

    A network like CNN tends to lean its favor to whoever is in power, but they alwayse stay pretty moderate, except when there is a juicy scandal of course.
     
  11. fadingCaptain are you a robot? Valued Senior Member

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    There is always an agenda behind any information you receive. Knowing this and keeping it in mind helps wade through all the BS you get through the media as well as other people.

    Personally, i feel fox news is obviously catering to conservatism, while some shows like 'the daily show' (which i think is pretty funny) have a sort of underhand liberalism. NPR caters to liberals though not as extreme as its counterpart fox...

    I think the perception that the media is overwhelmingly liberal is outdated and obviously false.

    Only smart thing to do is get a healthy sampling of several different sources.
     
  12. Eman Resu Registered Senior Member

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    I say we perform an experiment that asks all of the participants to actually turn the news programs OFF for a week. How would they respond when they find out that people actually have other things to do BETTER than watching someone else's agenda unfold - and that the watchers are happier without this "media" medicine?
     
  13. plm135 Registered Member

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    love top see how these statistic surveys are spun...

    the truth of that matter is that when you look at the WHOLE survey you see that over 50% DONT think the media is too liberal, i.e. that it is either too conservative or just right.

    SO surprise surprise, in a 50% country we have half the country that thinks its too left and half that doesnt.

    What does that mean to me?

    It means that conservatives, who see everything as black and white, either or, who make up or influence half the country, will nearly all say...yep, too liberal...

    and that the liberals, who tend to be more gray, see it as just right with the hardcore few seeing it as too conservative.

    But seems pretty disingenuous spin to only compare the liberal and conservative numbers on that survey and not look at the just right numbers which are just as important.
     
  14. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    I take exception to your slagging of the BBC.
    Prove your points here otheadp.
    You can start with The charter and the agreement that the BBC have with the British people who fund its service.

    How can a none profit organisation make money?
    Dee Cee
     
  15. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Plm135... most people anywhere in the world DONT THINK ANYTHING.
     
  16. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    The idea that the American media overall is liberal parallels the logic of Trickle Down Economics, in that it ignores the obvious factors that the rich constantly consider. Very few and very rich people own most of the American media, and because of the new deregulation the FCC passed it's only going to get worse. Like any human being, a rich human being wants more money. Follow the money, and you get special interests--the oil economy, fighting wars for the wrong reasons, etcetera. It all comes down to the media, which is probably the most important facet of a democracy to begin with. How can you appreciate or hate a politician when you don't know who he or she truly is?

    Anyway, yeah, the parallel between Reaganomics and Liberal Media is quite evident, firstly, in that both ideas are insane. Reaganomics has only really been tried once, during of course the two term Reagan presidency, when of course the gap between the rich and the poor only widened (I'm planning on engaging in a private project used for gathering evidence that disproves Reaganomic Child Political Theory, but for now, I only have what I can remember from Zinn's A People's History of the United States). Only the rich gain when only the rich get tax cuts, there's a lesson in common sense.

    Yeah.
     
  17. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    A Song about newspapers.
    It maybe a little Anglocentric for those of you who think England lies just off the coast of Canada

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    It says here

    It says here that the unions will never learn
    It says here that the economy is on the upturn
    And it says here we should be proud
    That we are free
    And our free press reflects our democracy

    Those braying voices on the right of the house
    Are echoed down the street of shame
    Where politics mix with bingo and tits
    In a strictly money and numbers game

    Where they offer you a feature
    On stockings and suspenders
    Next to a call for stiffer penalties for sex offenders

    It says here that this year’s prince is born
    It says here do you ever wish
    That you were better informed
    And it says here that we can only stop the rot
    With a large dose of law and order
    And a touch of the short sharp shock

    If this does not reflect you view you should understand
    That those who own the papers also own this land
    And they’d rather you believe
    In coronation street capers
    In the war of circulation, it sells newspapers
    Could it be an infringement
    Of the freedom of the press
    To print pictures of women in states of undress

    When you wake up to the fact
    That you paper is tory
    Just remember, there are two sides to every story

    Billy Bragg from Back to basics

    That those who own the papers also own this land
    Never forget.
    Dee Cee
     
  18. Repo Man Valued Senior Member

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    Continued....
     
  19. Jerrek Registered Senior Member

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    I find the most reliable reporting from Fox. Even they tend to be a little liberal at times.

    The rest of the networks are too fucked up. Especially BBC, who is going down the toilet because of the way they FUBARed reporting on this war. Even their armed forces can't stomach the lies BBC produces all the time and they had to get Sky.
     
  20. Guru Registered Senior Member

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    Wow that's a first ....Jerrek I am sure everyone is aware of your extreme conservatism and obvious tilt to the right but there are very few posters on this forum who would agree with you that FOX is most reliable...maybe you were being sarcastic if that is the case then I am sorry. But if you were serious then you need to re-consider your opinion....also go to Atlanta and see their big advertisement in Downtown Atlanta about their "fair and Balanced" view tilted way towards right

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    Can you provide us with any link to support this ...and do you represent the "ARMED FORCES" to say this ...maybe you spend too much time with your GIs killing imaginary Bad Guys created by FOX that you have no respect for media which does not support your war mongering and conservative view.


    Peace





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  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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    Most of the times the media, either liberal or conservative, will put their own "spin" on an event. They will only show you the part of the story that they know will get the biggest emotional rise from people. An example is when Rodney King was shown to be beaten but it didn't show ALL of the video in which he was traveling at speeds of over 100 MPH, almost hitting innocent pedestrians, trying to at first run over police with his car and finally when he tried to fight with the police. You see the media only showed you what happened to Mr. King after all that went on before for almost 30 minutes but you never were allowed to see that part.....I wonder why not?
     
  22. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    Err..
    How can you post like this Jarrek and still keep a straight face?

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    Welcome back mate. I've missed your perverse sense of humour

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  23. DeeCee Valued Senior Member

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    Two reasons.
    1) People these days seem to have a short attention span and I guess the preceeding 30 mins of footage was pretty boring.
    2) The officers commited no offence until they started beating on a defenceless individual.

    Hope that helps.
    Dee Cee
     

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