When a thread is closed (by person unknown), shouldn't a reason for closure be given? If it was because someone has misbehaved, it should be stated, not vaguely but with supporting information, and not in a scolding manner which just shows a lack of professionalism. I would like to continue with some serious discussion with people who are showing themselves to be serious too. But suddenly, the thread is closed, without explanation. I hope that an administrator will reply to this point. Tim
What part exactly do you not understand? I think it pretty clear. The following thread was closed on request of the thread starter: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28239 Mind you, I will not go in discussion on this any further.
You seem to bear a grudge against me. Please point out why this is. Are you saying the quote above applies to me? If so, as everything is documented out there, it should be possible to qualify your statement. It wouldn't do any harm to add a post to the end explaining this. People are trying to discuss something and you just shut it down without any consideration. If you have a problem with a poster then let him/her know about it. There must be some action you can take. Behaving like a school teacher, blaming and punishing the whole class for misdeeds of one or two pupils, does not apply in the adult world. There are three threads you closed without explanation that I will be asking the administrator to look at. Banning the subject of a thread is a concern I will bring up, too. Not that this forum is anything special. But, there are 3 people here who are taking part in a serious way. It would be interesting for you to discover the motive behind fetus's request to close that topic. A long way over his head, I think.
Where do you get the message that it is personal? As the quote says: This quote comes from two threads which are closed, namely: http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=27736 and http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=28050 As is also pointed out in the post made before the threads were closed: I think it is all pretty clear in itself and I do not see where there is displayed a grudge against you. If the tread starter asks for his/her own thread to be closed, then it is his/her good right to do so. It may not always happen that it gets closed but mostly, when the reason seems clear, this request will be heard and the thread will be closed. I am not interested in what you think another poster might think. As it is not relevant in this aspect.
You don't seem to understand. Other people are discussing things. You close them without consideration, without posting a reason. Apart from the two threads you mention above, these 3 threads were closed in this fashion: THREADS CLOSED WITHOUT EXPLANATION in the "General Science & Technology Forum". 1. "A Logical Principle". 2. "On Homeopathy". (This is an old thread, before the later "banned" threads.) 3. "Why are post involving medicines (or quackery) on this sub-forum?" You have shut down ALL BUT ONE of the thread that I have participated in. (One missed. I expect that last one to go promptly). How else am I to interpret it? I have not done anything wrong? Kindly correct me if I am wrong - the evidence is out there for all to see. Do you consider the other posters? Could you not post something, just out of politeness, to say that you closed it. And, saying why might be appreciated. A considerate person may notify the participating people of what they should do to carry on the conversation. Are you a reasonable person? Can you see what you have done, at all? I suspect there are some crafty people using this site feedback forum to manipulate you, i.e., not to see things in a totally balanced way. Anyway, there is something "unreasonable" going on here.
You do not seem to understand, there is given a reason: It was not only you who participated in these threads, so no reason to take it personally. Yes, I did consider the other posters, which is precisely the reason why the threads got closed.
I hope you understand my reasons. I wish to speak to an administrator about it. I don't expect you to assist in this task. The problem is that I would like to continue the discussion on the thread you just closed. It contains no indiscretions. It may be in the wrong forum, but it is a rational discipline involving millions of people so it should be accepted by one of your forums. (An informed, considerate moderator may suggest the best solution...work WITH people rather than against them - be considerate). I do not believe you have the authority to ban the subject matter. If some posters go over-the-top on a thread, there must be a way to intervene without affecting everybody who is trying to take part in serious debate, i.e., ending the debate.
Get this straight in your head, nobody here is manipulating me in any way. Good luck on your quest for justice...
That reason is unreasonable to me...well, OK I think I understand your actions now. It is because there is no mechanism for you to block individuals. That makes sense. The next time this happens, kindly let people know this. Everyone has a sense of justice, and instinctively react to injustice. But, on closure, out of politeness, a quick post like "ref thread On homeopathy" or "thread starter requested closure" would show some consideration, less injustice, and would not just be a display of attention-seeking authority. I think it is just that you cannot see the other person's perspective. You are doing things in a way that you believe is right, with a touch of "you can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs". The person who started and developed all the threads you closed is just one of those eggs. Completely ignored. Nothing to do with you, whatsoever. Believe me, not everyone is like you. Thinking more. Perhaps you simply do not understand my point at all....or you do, very well, and this is all about seeking confrontation.
quote timokay If you have a problem with a poster then let him/her know about it. There must be some action you can take. Behaving like a school teacher, blaming and punishing the whole class for misdeeds of one or two pupils, does not apply in the adult world ==================================== this does apply in the real world they are called laws, like drinking driver licensing leaving school getting medical care insurance prices and costs and expectations road rules driving speed limits recreational drug use property rights land rights public property law private property law just to name a few quote timokay A considerate person may notify the participating people of what they should do to carry on the conversation. Are you a reasonable person? Can you see what you have done, at all? ================================ considering it is your friend that is throwing the insults around and that you claim to have come in together then maybe you could get together with your friend and read the site rules. before making claims to things that contradict the rules of the site pretending to play mr nice guy while allowing your insulting friend to hide behind your lack of acceptance of the site rules, is a little over the top for a site where people attempt to communicate on an intellectual level aside from the thread being started in a vein of contempt on those who preach your type of medicine i see little value to any medical concept by emersing your lack of abiding by site rules to the very person who might have put a stop to a thread that you entered when it was quite obviousely going to contain complaining comments and derogitory type remarks of that type of concepts and beliefes... maybe the thread would have been closed sooner without your input conjecture mixed with lack of acceptance of the rules can lead to a variety of assumtions and most often incorrect what you are seeking is self affirmation through your attempt to justify your lack of understanding of the site rules and practices a good read by you and your friend is required and maybe you could request a copy from the hub administrator before you further your point of obscurity and just a helpfull hint if you find a topic which you dissagree with then why try to make yourself the centre of attention, when you may choose to dissagree without your friends tag team insult match play system indeviduality and personality is a great tresure lets try and maintain it one of the ways we maintain it is to make laws and rules to allow people a better understanding of what is considered desirable and what is not the thread has been closed because people were not following the rulres they agreed to when joining the board keep grooving Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
Of course moderators have the authority. That is precisely their authority. And of course they needn't explain their actions, for reasons of efficiency more than anything.
Timokay, you big fat illiterate butthead, what part of do you not understand? The moderators and/or administrator have no obligation to explain what they do. You agreed to it when you joined.
What I don't understand ..... As a poster who has, over the years, managed to have less than a half-dozen words censored or moderated out of 7,100 posts, I'm just amazed that people can't figure out how to not piss off our moderators. Ask around. There are lots of us who manage to have some pretty raucous fights around here without bugging the moderators. Reported posts? Come on, people. Use that link sparingly. These moderators are volunteers, and they will get around to handling things; piling on reports of complaint just . . . damn. Didn't you ever notice that your parents would get pissed enough if you did wrong, but if you and your siblings ran to them pointing fingers and forcing them to moderate your rather inane and childish disputes, they tended to treat them even more harshly than some of the legitimately insane stuff you got caught trying? Your mother is not here. Your father is not here. Once upon a time in Salem, Oregon, you used to be able to hear at first, and then see a domestic fight brewing. This dude and his wife couldn't stop fighting. Seriously, I have no idea how they could possibly have any stuff left to break, but first you'd hear yelling, then you'd hear stuff being knocked over, and eventually the fight would spill out on to the porch. By this time, the police had usually arrived, and they simply stood back by their cars while this husband and wife absolutely whaled on each other until the two cats from Kilkenny spilled off their lawn and onto the sidewalk, whereupon both were arrested. Mind you, experience had taught the cops to not care about the damage these folks did to each other. But every time they had to come out was just a headache. Screaming idiots, paperwork, processing ... in the end, they would arrest both pretty much for annoying the police. I'm told the city attorney eventually charged them both in order to give his PD a rest, but I haven't a clue how the story actually ended; I left town before it did. Do you get it yet?
