The greatest most common paradoxes in the world

Discussion in 'General Philosophy' started by Votorx, Feb 25, 2004.

  1. P. M. Thorne Registered Senior Member

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    QQ: To put God in the same category with science is what? Also, what makes you think God created Himself, huh? You do not have to answer, but I had to give you a bad time. Stay cool. >>>> pmt
     
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  3. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    to answer you question PMT.....a paradox......a paradox...made me do it!!!
     
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  5. P. M. Thorne Registered Senior Member

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    Oh hey, QQ, last evening I thought of a "word" sort of, that I hate to hear, so thought I would tell you guys, because I know you were waiting to hear from me.

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    I do not like it when people say extra-ordinary. Extrardinary is best with only five syllables. To me it is a contradiction to say extra ordinary, which I suppose would simply make it an oxymoron. Would this not be right. If it is extra, it is not ordinary; and if it is ordinary, there is not extra. That is like our saying, I am really full. If one if full, there is no more room, right?

    Another thing is that college commercial, wherein the woman is so happy now to be educated and working "less hours." I suppose she uses fewer gas and goes less miles too. Who cares, I suppose, but I like it better when folks at least tried.

    You can see I am too late up. Tee hee. goodnight
     
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  7. Votorx Still egotistic... Valued Senior Member

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    Nicely Put.

    Anything that has happened in the past will forever be that way. If someone were to go into the past and try to change the future its events would have already played out in the past. Basically he's only furfilling the gap in his present. Whatever changes he would make in the past has already been done therefore whatever impacts it has on the future is already existent even if the future hasn't come around for that particular person.

    Lol maybe they mean they are so normal that even ordinary people find them boring. Who knows?
     
  8. alain du hast mich Registered Senior Member

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    PMT "when I saw that, I wanted to be sure that you knew I was not dead serious."
    alright, so where agreed that neither of us were serious

    not sure if this is a paradox, but the word buzzword has actually turned into a buzzword
     
  9. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Exactly, so what does this tell us? That u cannot interact with past events.
     
  10. Quantum Quack Life's a tease... Valued Senior Member

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    u can't interact but you can observe........

    Actually if you did interact you would have to contain it to a set period of interaction I guess.....like 10 minutes 1000 years ago.....go in do your thing and leave whilst outcome is neutral....
     
  11. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    The thing is like I said before, the outcome can never be neutral. What ever u do will affect something in the future so that they cannot be the exact same outcomes

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    Although this is what I believe, there are like I say, scientists who believe in the many worlds theory which means we CAN go back (in principle) and change the course of the universe and set it on a different path which is already laid out before

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  12. Votorx Still egotistic... Valued Senior Member

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    Yes you can interact with past events, only when you do you won't effect anything since you would just fit into the series of events that take place.
     
  13. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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  14. Neutrino_Albatross Legion of Dynamic Discord Registered Senior Member

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    Class A is a group of all classes that do not contain themselves.

    If Class A is not a member of itself it has to be.
    If Class A is a member of it self it cannot be.

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  15. Votorx Still egotistic... Valued Senior Member

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    I have an unbelievably hard time explaining this topic since its so hard to understand so I'm gonna try and set up a scenerio for you please try and follow along.

    Characters:
    Man A
    Woman B
    Killer C

    Scenerio:
    An unknown bullet is ricocheted off a wall and kills Woman B. The police investigate the scene and figure out in which direction the bullet came from, but Killer C is already gone. Man A is broken by this woman's death and decides to go back in time to change the events, once he is back in time he goes to the general area where the police pedicted Killer C made the shot. Man A suddenly sees a man in the corner of his eye, pulls out a gun and fires at that man. The bullet that is fired misses the man and ricochets off the wall inevitably killing Woman B. Man A is distraught and understands the woman died by his own gun and swears never to go back in time agian.

    Summary:
    Woman B is killed by Man A's bullet. Since Man A went back into time to stop the killer, he inevitably fits into the series of events becoming the man who killed Woman B. In other words Man A is Killer C.
     
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  16. alain du hast mich Registered Senior Member

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    "u can't interact but you can observe........"

    to observe we need to interact, we give of heat, and take in heat and light and all sorts of stuff

    coludnt man A keep going back in time until he didnt miss? or do you think he would be destined to miss?
     
  17. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    So ur saying that Killer C was somebody else in one scenario and he was Man A in a different scenario? Can u see that they are two different world outcomes? This cannot happen.
     
  18. Votorx Still egotistic... Valued Senior Member

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    No, Killer C was Man A since this whole thing started. Maybe it will be better to understand this if you think of it as a loop. Forever going around in circles, Man A is driven to go back into time only to become Killer C who will, inevitably cause Man A to go back into trime only to become Killer C and so on and so on.
     
  19. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    But history is still changed. In the first case, Man A did not kill the woman did he? He didn't even own a gun. Now how could this man have owned a gun, learnt how to shoot a gun AND shoot the woman in the second case without changing history???
     
  20. Votorx Still egotistic... Valued Senior Member

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    Ahh but history did not change. Although i never mentioned that Man A owned gun, learned how to shoot and actually took the shot, I never said he didn't. If you want to get that specific then yes, Man A did own a gun and he did know how to shoot. By going back into the past he fit into the role as Killer B and shot Woman C causing a continous never ending cycle.
     
  21. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    I see what ur saying now. Basically u are saying when u go back in time to 'interact' with the past, the only thing u can do is follow events which are already set out for u! U have absolutely no choice in what to do and every footprint u have ever created will have to be tread on again right?
     
  22. el supremo el diablo Banned Banned

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    what about a real fake
     
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  23. P. M. Thorne Registered Senior Member

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    Alain Is Right, Of Course; However, We Must Not Be Too Literal Here, Don't You Think? But, It Is A Good Point.

    As For The Guns And Shootings, I Pass.

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