All Sci-Fi is real!

Discussion in 'SciFi & Fantasy' started by Thor, Apr 15, 2004.

  1. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    i'm lost.

    are you saying that everything in sci-fi becomes real, or that there is no limit to what can be created within sci fi?
     
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  3. crazymikey Open-minded Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    I'll say this much: Anything that we can think of is actually possible. This includes all of the science fiction technologies. It is no surprise, that so much science fiction actually becomes science fact.
     
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  5. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    Nope, not everything we can think of is possible. Unless you are suggesting the hard version of "our minds contol our reality". In which case please go flying off a cliff.
     
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  7. Leviticus Banned Banned

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    prove it my good man
     
  8. jadedflower observer Valued Senior Member

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    and don't forget all the stuff in the old old sci fi that no one wants to make because is outdated.

    And if that IS possible, to make everything we dream up... then I'll like to put in an order for a teleporter. That way I can sleep in an extra hour on school days. Ta.
     
  9. Leviticus Banned Banned

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    how would that give you an extra hour of sleep?
    id dream up Q out of star trek and get him to make me one of them hehehehe......

    yeah, what if the blob really invaded earth, that would be hilarious....
     
  10. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Anna Nicole Smith already has her own show.
     
  11. Leviticus Banned Banned

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    lol man true, true....
     
  12. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    Proving it would involve infinite time and monkeys and stuff. So, get back to me in 10^12 years and ask me then. Its much quicker to ask people who think everything we can think of is possible to prove it, since they can do it right here and now.
     
  13. crazymikey Open-minded Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    I'll prove it like this: Reality is relative and dependent on perception, and the laws of reality. In a holographic reality, the laws of reality are changable. If I were to connect myself to a holographic reality with different laws of physics and nature, anything I can visualize and imagine could be realized. If I could superimpose a holographic mind into current reality, and assign it an intelligence, then this holographic mind would act per laws of it's holographic reality, and not our reality.
    If one of those laws, would be to teleport anywhere in space/time at will, then the holographic mind would be capable of teleporting at will.

    Similarily, I believe the laws of the reality we peceive to be made up, are encoded, by the very quantum code of existence. In multiple universes and higher dimensions these quantum codes that encode reality differ from one another. Henceforth, I postulate that in some universes, the laws of nature allow what is impossible in our own universe.

    Once we can understand this quantum code of existence, even we can play with this code, and perform acts and feats that would have been otherwise impossible. Hence anything I can imagine - remember imagination is also a reality and can also be realized in our current reality. In fact we can only perceive what is possible from what we absorb from our reality, we cannot imagine what we have not perceived - like new colours or news laws of physics and logic.
     
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  14. guthrie paradox generator Registered Senior Member

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    Thats not a proof. Thats a construct from your mind. it isnt a proof unless it testable, which will require you to demonstrate it working.
    We can imagine what we havtnt percieved. How else to explain the prevalence of religiouos ideas? Your not religious are you?
     
  15. crazymikey Open-minded Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    Guthrie, what you consider proof, is what is confirmed. What I consider proof, is what is logical. If you want proof of this principle, try a video game, preferably one that is complete science fiction - it is proof of different laws of physics.

    I am not pinned down by laws of physics. I know, if they exist, they have been made-up by a certain system - what I like to think of as a quantum code. I do not take reality for granted - it is nothing more than a code at an absolute level.

    Existence is only a fabricate of ones perception. If you project yourself in a holographic reality, then what you percieve then, is the laws of that holographic reality - that is your new existence. Does that not make sense?
     
  16. gnasher Registered Senior Member

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    In an unbounded environment which exists for long enough, everything will happen; even the improbable. I would include null outcomes (nothing happens).

    Unless it (the thing that happens) breaks the rules which govern this long lasting, unbounded environment. If it does break the rules, then the rules will be rewritten to include it.

    Relevant existence could be defined as the length of time people have been around and able to gather information on probable events, or work out what may have happened before they were here. The improbable stuff possibly hasn't been noticed or explained yet, or it has been ignored. Which doesn't mean that it hasn't happened somewhere. So - I agree with the original post. Little teddy bears with spears may be helping to blow up partially constructed space stations somewhere, sometime...

    {Note to above post - perception is entirely based on memory, so is useless when it comes to prediction}
     
  17. Leviticus Banned Banned

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    maybe the improbable (definetly the improbable in fact) but not the IMPOSSIBLE...
     
  18. crazymikey Open-minded Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    But what exactly is impossible Levitcus?
     
  19. Leviticus Banned Banned

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    lol.... continuing my ppb http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?p=557827#post557827

    anything will be possible with me at your helm..... (angelic choir starts up again)

    my ppb people hand out riveting and enlightening leaflets....





    but seriously, by 'impossible', i mean anything that actually breaks the laws of physics..
    and by laws of physics, i mean, things that are possible, not what we CONSIDER to be impossible....
    (i.e. abe lincoln appearing in front of our spaceship and trying ot kill us)....
    yeah right
     
  20. crazymikey Open-minded Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    Levitus, what is impossible is only that at a perceptive level. Much like what we consider to be impossible.

    At a perceptive level:

    1+1 = 8 is impossible
    Teleporting physical objects against space is impossible
    Abe Lincoln appearing on a spaceship is trying to kill us is impossible
    Being hit by a meteroite in the next 10 min is impossible

    Yet, on another level:

    Number + Number = Number
    Quantum teleportation of matter with powerful quantum computers
    Abe Lincoln in a parallel dimension appearing on a space ship and wiping out humanity
    Meteroite coming out of nowhere and hitting us within the next 10 min

    So what exacly is impossible? We can only imagine from what we can percieve, but we can't imagine what we can't percieve. Do you think stone age man could imagine flying spacechips? Can you imagine new colours?
    I do not take reality for granted. As far as Im concerned, everything can happen.
     
  21. Leviticus Banned Banned

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    no, i am talking about DEFINITE impossiblities... not impossibilities that arise from incomprehension of the human mind...
     
  22. crazymikey Open-minded Scientist Registered Senior Member

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    So what is a DEFINITE impossible?
     
  23. Leviticus Banned Banned

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    definite impossible..meh..... is what is truly impossible. not what we think is not pobbisle (e.g. man standing inside a star... bloke says: dont be stupid, thats impossible.... it might not be we dont know)

    i am saying what physics and the laws of nature do not allow 'PERIOD'. of course, i can provide no examples since they might turn out to be possible lol.
     

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