Was there even really a Jesus?

Discussion in 'Religion Archives' started by Ebony, Apr 25, 2004.

  1. Jenyar Solar flair Valued Senior Member

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    Greetings Iaison

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    But you said about Hebrews 7:14 "The son is said to be "sprung from Judah" because thats what scripture says about the Messiah - the writer is merely mining scripture for details about this heavenly figure."

    If you hold the view that Paul got his information about Christ straight out of the OT (and you seem to believe exactly that), then he is nothing but a messianic figure, who incidentally was never expected to be any but human.

    I couldn't find your answer to w_fortenberry's last post on "The physical Christ according to Paul". Maybe you'd like to provide it now?
     
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  3. ConsequentAtheist Registered Senior Member

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    I must agree here (and I never agree with Jenyar). There are a number of ancient claimants known to us solely through Josephus. The argument from absence is simply not compelling.
     
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  5. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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  7. Ebony Registered Senior Member

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  8. Medicine*Woman Jesus: Mythstory--Not History! Valued Senior Member

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    M*W: Good for you! I understand what you mean about "feeling guilty" and "your world being over!" I experienced that as well. I grieved over the loss of something so close to home, something so special to me, it was a great loss. I grieved through it, and it's like blinders were taken off of my eyes. I can see clearly now how the NT lies. After all this time, I feel that if Jesus existed, he was finally proud of me for figuring it all out! I know that today I am closer to Jesus than I was 30 years ago. Furthermore, I understand him and the interpretation of the NT. Everyone is sooooo wrong about Jesus. He died for no one. He did not even die! I'm so glad you found out the truth.
     
  9. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    You mean he's still alive?

    Well whooppeee....... LOL!

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    If Jesus is still alive thats sure to stuff the church...LOL!

    Either that or your lying again........

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  10. Boufman Registered Member

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    hello...I'm new to this forum.I just want to say that there is alot more going on in this picture than just the existence of Jesus Christ.Jesus did die.He came back from the dead showing us as people that he has power over even death.The problem here is that we spend too much time quibbling over simple matters like whether he died or not.The human mind only chooses to believe what it finds to be normal.Anything that is outside that realm is garbage.Perhaps if you step out of that shell and keep searching you will see what I see.Yes Jesus is alive.We cannot see him because he is Spirit.The Holy Spirit is with us now.Keep searching before you give up on something you may regret losing.
     
  11. Ebony Registered Senior Member

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    Are you serious? Whether he died or not is the base of Christianity. Its not just a " simple matter".

    If God knows us, and what we are capapble of beleiving, then why would he give us something that is so confusing?
     
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  13. Vienna Registered Senior Member

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    You talk a load of bollox M*W

    I can see it now advertised as the greatest show on earth.

    "Roll up folks - Jesus is appearing live in Paris on his World tour "Here in Heaven" - show not to be missed!!!.....A Few Tickets left for the Delhi show...Hurry!!!!!!

    ROFLMAO.....

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  14. Ebony Registered Senior Member

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    man...what a hater
     

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