Stripped of Their Humanity !!

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  1. CounslerCoffee Registered Senior Member

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    Have you NOT been watching the news?
     
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  3. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    And war in your ethics involves bombing people from the safety of the sky killing thousands of innocents,right ?

    So when a muslim kill, he must have been killing for God !! how pathetic and moronic this bullshit is, let me refer you to BIN LADEN latest tape, let us read together why this man is killing, is he killing for God or for something else ?

    ''What happened in September 11 and March 11 is your own merchandise coming back to you. We hereby advise you ... that your definition of us and of our actions as terrorism is nothing but a definition of yourselves by yourselves, since our reaction is of the same kind as your act. Our actions are a reaction to yours, which are destruction and killing of our people as is happening in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine.

    By what measure of kindness are your killed considered innocents while ours are considered worthless? By what school [of thought] is your blood considered blood while our blood is water?

    Therefore, it is [only] just to respond in kind, and the one who started it is more to blame...

    When you look at what happened and is happening, the killing in our countries and in yours, an important fact emerges, and that is that the oppression is forced on both us and you by your politicians who send your sons, against your will, to our country to kill and to be killed.

    therefore, both sides have an interest in thwarting those who shed the blood of the peoples for their own narrow interests, out of vassalage to the White House gang...''


    http://www.commondreams.org/headlines04/0415-05.htm

    We can see clearly from the above that those so called muslim terrorists are not killing for God they are killing in response to your OWN killing.

    Perhpas you ought to look at this:

    http://www.evilbible.com ( so much peace and love in christianity, I am telling ya

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  5. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    So, PM, a farming conflict in Nigeria some how relates to the abuse that Iraqi prisoners in Iraq received?

    http://allafrica.com/stories/200405070131.html

    A farming dispute in AFRICA has something to do with AMERICA? My bad, it was some Christians and Muslims fighting over land. I forgot that you hate Christians and the US, so you associate them both.
     
  8. Proud Muslim you are correct that this is a war about religion. The radical Muslims appear to want to kill every one who is not a radical Muslim. I was reading the Friday editorials of the New York Times and they were discussing how the moderates Muslims are losing ground to the extremist Muslims. The reporter was writing that we needed to establish a definition of moderate and of extremist and to start marginalizing the extremist so that the moderates can work with us towards a better relationship. You said that the Americans were too cowardly to use nuclear weapons. I think you need to check with Japan on that issue. They received two not just one and this was at a time when some of our best scientist were not sure that the reaction would even stop. It has been less than seventy years since we established our own concentration camps for Japanese citizens if we are capable of that kind of brutality towards our own citizens imagine the brutality that we can deliver to “them there foreigners” . I love my country for the good that it tries to naively accomplish while I fear the evil ways that we so readily adopt in the name of national interest.
     
  9. Eluminate Registered Senior Member

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    pm are you daring the west to use nukes ? certainly seems to me that way when you say we are too coward to use them. What happens if you are wrong ... Because if some more terror acts happen there will be someone who says that if we anihilate two or three cities altogether it will have similar effects as on Japanese at end of ww2. Personally I think Damasqas would be a perfect city to nuke, dont you?
     
  10. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    The west talks as if only muslims have radicals and extremists, what about your own radicals and extremists ?
     
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  11. The Flemster Unstoppable sex machine Registered Senior Member

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    Don't you have to be human to be stripped of humanity?

    The Flemster.
     
  12. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    We don't know if the Iraqis abused by Americans were really muslim. There are Christian Arabs, too, you know. Why make it a religious issue? I think that is inappropriate. Its a human rights issue.
     
  13. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Funny, how you think a story of gang rape equates with dress code in woman's rights.
     
  14. Bells Staff Member

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    And you have a problem with this because of..? Do you want to see them use nukes? I don't think 'cowards' is the word I'd use to describe the US in this issue. The world saw the effects of using nukes in Japan and I'm pretty sure that the majority on this planet would ever want to inflict such horrors on anyone again. If they are cowards in not using PM, be thankful. Because I know I sure as hell am.
     
  15. RawThinkTank Banned Banned

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    Disgrace . Warning . Don’t U talk about nukes, USA has no rights to keep nukes . Only United Nations has that right . I rarely use the word I but. I am not a Muslim or by birth , I am a Rationalist yet if USA want to keep nukes then I see no problems in Muslims or any body else using nukes or nukes alike on USA because this is about freedom of world from America damit. I bet after looking at those images any non American will agree with me. Hey I rarely use the word me either but this one is personal.

    We will not go into the dark without a fight, the world must unite to fight against this nuclear terrorist called USA. And that’s what OSMA has shown us of how it can be done . Remember I hate Muslims but If I was a Muslim I have no idea how much more hate for USA I would have had. Your days are numbered , beware something bad is going to happen to USA, I can see the future , USA has dug its own grave.

    It is a crime to enjoy life when your tax money is being used to torture innocent lives, You will pay for it. I don’t believe in god but I believe God has cursed USA from souls of the innocent suffering.
     
  16. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    Very well said ! time for this american arrogance to stop.

    Not really ! some Americans even try to justify these abuses and torture that led to death !

    I put my hope in the American people to change their terrorist president and their terrorist government, we shall wait until Novermber, if they re-elected this terrorist war criminal, Bush, then they should not shout terrorism when they are blown up to pieces ! the world is sick and tird from Bush and his cronies.

    They invade, bomb, kill, rape, torture, abuse and impose their will on us and they expect us to love them !!

    I dont wish any harm to America or its people, I hope they can kick out this war criminal terrorist from the white house peacefuly.

    I like this quote.

    http://www.godhatesamerica.com/
     
  17. Proud_Muslim Shield of Islam Registered Senior Member

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    what about your own RAPE stories ? shall I post the rape statistics in the west ???? or will you be satisfied with this:

    National Statistics

    Domestic violence has become one of the most common of all crimes. Here are some National Statistics:

    -Every 12 to 15 seconds a woman is battered in the United States.

    -Nearly one-third of American women (31 percent) report being physically or sexually abused by a husband or boyfriend at some point in their lives, according to a 1998 Commonwealth Fund survey. (The Commonwealth Fund, Health Concerns Across a Woman's Lifespan: 1998 Survey of Women's Health, May 1999)

    -On average, more than three women are murdered by their husbands or boyfriends in this country every day. In 1999, 1,642 murders were attributed to intimates; 74 percent of the murder victims. (Bureau of Justice Statistics Special Report, Intimate Partner Violence and Age of Victim, 1993-99, October 2001)

    http://www.nmclites.edu/stuaffairs/response/NationalStatistics.html

    A woman is sexually assaulted by forced sexual intercourse every 17 minutes in Canada; a woman is sexually assaulted in many other ways every 6 minutes.

    Sexual assault happens to 1 in 4 Canadian women at some point in their lives.

    http://www.uvss.uvic.ca/oursac/statistics.htm

    Dont even come near this topic, the statistics I have about women abuse and rape in the west are SCANDELOUS.

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  18. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Well, now that wouldn't quite work, because your point was that the western media doesn't show how the west is dehumanizing muslim women.

    There is no contention that rape is a fact of life. It occurs everywhere. And even in the west there is a stigma attached so victims are sometimes reluctant to admit to the crime, but at least we see them as victims and not whores (well, not entirely anyway, there is always the stigma.)
     
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    "By what measure of kindness are your killed considered innocents while ours are considered worthless? By what school [of thought] is your blood considered blood while our blood is water? " - PM's Bin Laden quote

    Well PM, it looks like your idol is a freaking genious. He is a God himself. I mean, I haven't read anything that deep, oh wait..., what was that I read while I was taking a leak the other day on the wall of the bathroom?

    If you had any sense and if your religious zealots weren't so bent on revenge like a bunch of 2 year olds, then you would see that is such a hypocritical statement. Man, education obviously is a factor to the world.
     
  20. crazy151drinker Registered Senior Member

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    "You are too cowards to use your nukes, everyone knows that."

    It is ignorance such as this that will cause the Entire Middle East to turn into one big giant Parking Lot. I promise you PM, if one of your little crazy fundies manages to set off a Nuke in the U.S., you wont have to worry about the Palastinians, the Iraqis, the Iranians, the Jordanians, etc..etc.. because they wont be there anymore.

    Give Nukes to the UN? And who controls the UN? This is the same UN that allowed 800,000 Rwandians to get butchered and you want them to have Nukes? Get a clue.
     
  21. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    So am I to infer from this statement that if the brave people of the middle east had nukes they'd be using them? Do you wonder why we don't want people who feel this way to have them? If Saddam had had a nuke, you can bet he would have used it. I guess that makes him brave by your standard. It takes bravery not to use a weapon that would throw the world into a conflagration of death. It would be a lot easier in many situations to nuke them than send troops over to die. Your statement is absolutely ignorant.
     
  22. crazy151drinker Registered Senior Member

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    Invert,

    I guess in his eyes the Brits, the French, the Chinese, the Isrealies, the North Koreans, the Russians, the Indians, and the Pakastanies are all cowards.
    Wait a minute? I thought the Pakastanies were Muslim?

    PM,

    Why dont your brave fearless Muslim breatheren in Pakastan use their nukes?
     
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