Is British Society more accepting?

The reporters ran around saying oi they're beating one of your friends up down there quick ect.Most people just looked the other way,there was a couple of small fights,but only the normal sort of thing.
Also in the newspapers,they wrote that there is going to be a big punch up at "Clacton"Margate" Brighton" & every one went to watch.
That's all it was,honest.

If your uncle got beat up,then it was by some idiots that had been inspired by the press!

 

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The kilt and bagpipes were banned, but not Highland dancing as it didn't exist till after the ban

After Bonnie Prince Charlie's defeat at Culloden, which ended the 1745 Rising of the Clans, Parliament banned the kilt and bagpipes as instruments of war. This ban, which broke the strength and heart of the Highlands, was lifted some 30 years later, when tartan material became a fashion rage in London, and the Highland dance depicts a Scot kicking off his hated lowland britches and shows his joy of again being able to return to his traditional Highland dress.

That was a silly thing for Orwell to say, however, these days we are all ruled by a politically correct crazed government who is about as democratic as Hitler. e.g. the Iraq war

Its not banned, where did you get that idea from?

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The "Rampant Lion", or Royal Flag of Scotland is based on an older Scottish flag than the St. Andrew's Cross, it should, strictly speaking, now only be used by the monarch in relation to her capacity as Queen in Scotland. However, it is widely used as a second national flag.

The Rampant Lion flag flies over the offices of the Secretary of State for Scotland that is Dover House in London and New St Andrew's House in Edinburgh.

Many schools in the area where I live are populated with 90% ethnic minority children, its a bit like "Spot the white kid".

Mods and Rockers in the 60's were real and not some article in a newspaper, I don't know why America has never heard of it, and nor do I care. Perhaps teenage warfare in America has always been more violent than the British.

Nowadays we have another type of teen warfare in the cities of England in the form of Asian gangs, for example in Milton Keynes.

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I will finish by saying that the English nationality does not exist, thanks to James VI of Scotland

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Did you know that the nationality of the English people does not exist, you cannot lawfully claim to be English and that England does not exist politically. It kind of makes the "England Expects" so false doesn't it.
This is disgusting.
I used to be proud to be English but I have been let down and hoodwinked by my own country. It's a farse!

Constitutionally and politically England does not exist and therefore the English nationality is not a legal claim . It ceased to exist politically and constitutionally in 1707 with the Act of Union (through James VI of Scotland who was also James I of England) . So did Scotland. But Scotland received back its constitutional and political existence, and hence its national existence, in 1998 when it got back its Parliament. So did Wales with the Welsh Assembly.

But as there is no single constitutional and political institutional representing England, it alone of the three nations of the island of Britain does not exist politically and constitutionally.

The House of Commons is not England's Parliament. It is the Parliament of the United Kingdom, and is responsible for looking after the UK as a whole. The Scottish Parliament and the Welsh Assembly have been created for the specific purpose of looking after Scottish & Welsh interests. So who is looking after England's interests?

At his first opportunity, Tony Blair urged “the speedy creation of a new Iraqi Parliament” yet he continues to deny that right to England.

 

Agh, Britain's great! I don't feel as if I have to conform to any particular constituent of society in any way, and neither do my friends, and as a result, everyone is an individual! There are no religious nutcasses here anymore. This is the home of rational scientific experimentation, something to be extemely proud of, and probably half the reason why there aren't any religious nutcasses here anymore.

The only problem I have is the Scottish! They have a chip on their shoulder! Ok, I know we may have slapped them around a bit in the past or whatever, but they're accepted nowadays! Everybody's accepted nowadays. John Barnes, for instance, when he first played for England was booed and hissed, but there is no way that any black player - other than Emile Heskey -would be booed nowadays. I mean, I just couldn't imagine Ashley Cole being booed by England fans, except by a small minority of yobs... But yobs, by their very definition are disgusting, disgraceful people anyway, and would beat up their own mother's, presuming thier mothers didn't kill themselves for them being born.

But the Scottish, I feel that maybe they have a presecution complex. But I think it's the other way round, they have inherently been protective against the English, and as a result they have been conditioned by their surrondings to hate the English, so nowadays it's the opposite, the English are being persecuted.

Well, I don't hate the Scottish. I'm blissfully indifferent to them. Just like I am to every other country, except the Australians.

 

No one said they did not exist,just that the war between them was made up by the newspapers

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The hatred between them was real; not some columnists figment of imagination. The fights and chases were very real, I was there.

 

I was there as well I had a 500cc BSA Gold Star & a 175 Lambramtta.
If there were any fights & chases then they were inspired by what the idiots had read in the papers.

 

I used to have a Lambretta GP150, Bright Orange with Black stripes, Mirrors galore (which kept getting nicked) and a Union Flag on each panel....

Wish I still had it now - be worth a few bob....LOL!

 

….i think yes, although I have no idea of the situation in the US. I went to Leeds University and I was a member of the student’s guilds disability group (being dyslexic I qualified) and I had loads of friends who were handicapped (blind, deaf ext). People were ‘accepting’ in that there was no abuse, but still pretty clue less of how to act around someone who had a handicap. They would wait for someone use a white cane to walk out into a street full of cars rather than over come the ‘politeness’ in questioning the person if they needed help. There is also the story of a man who walked into Boots with his guild dog and asked where the shampoo was, and the lady took hold of his dog and walked off leaving him standing there. The dog being well trained turned heal and headed back to his owner dragging the woman behind.

Its hard to measure ‘acceptance’ without defining it, but I’d think of it in terms of being accepted into society so maybe some pointers would be issue such as; are public buildings required to be accessible to all, do organisations offer alternative communication (brail/large scripted/sign language)

It should also be possible to compare the abortion rates of Downs syndrome and other ‘handicaps’ which can be ‘found’ by prenatal testing. But differences in government monetary support for ‘handicap’ children might factor into this

…actually thinking about it there must be a study somewhere about this…

 

Hello Weebee

Personally I'd fall over myself in trying to help someone with a disability, I wouldn't be able to do enough for them. I hope that you're not using the examples above to paint a bad picture of peoples attitudes in Yorkshire, England.

Because it simply isn't true.

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Falling over yourself might not help a 'disabled’ person much….

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I love Yorkshire and its one of the friendliest places in the UK, but I do think that people in the UK ( and probably everywhere) don’t know that much about how to help people with disabilities. When is asking if a person wants help expectable, and what help do they want? British politeness plays into this, as well as a lack of childhood education.

(the examples were from my two of my friends who came other places in the UK)

 

Well I first ask if they require help, some disabled people are very proud and help is sometimes seen as an insult. If they answer that help is required I ask what they want me to do, unless its a simple task such as taking them across a busy road,, otherwise I act on their instructions. It's the best way, personally, that I can help disabled people.

 

Disabled for life? attitudes towards, and experiences of, disability in Britain

 

WOW...... your literacy skills overwhelm me

You offer........ A link ?????????

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