Reason For This New Hip-Hop Movement

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hip-hop is alien to european society. it has other values and other way of understanding things. oh and yes.. I think that white hip-hopers are persons with limited intelligence and should be put into special police monitored lists. (why not african americans? because it is native to their culture. can be understood)
and about rap.. it isn't even music. just some persons bitching around in beat. african tribal drums have more music in them.

of course this is my subjective perception

 

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I sort of agree with Avatar. My opinion too.

 

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Dude, hip-hop is not new, it's been around for a long time. Also, not all of it is sexual. Mostly rap these days is sexual. And another thing: what does this have to do with Pavlov? Pavlov believes, as well as all behaviourists do, that human behaviour is effected by negative and positive reinforcements. I dont think that these reinforcements apply to entertainment, let alone hip-hop. The sexuality is simply a stimulation to make you like the videos, and thusly like the songs, and thusly buy the albums.

 

First point and most important point, ragtime is not jazz.

Perhaps you ought to check out whether there were even vocals accompanying early jazz. Come on spider, I respect you, do not get me started.


As to this mess:

As much as it may harden your dick to believe that hip hop is as of now not associated with black or african american culture, you are of course wrong.

 

what of neo nazis, kid? the same?

 

No offense, but your theory makes no sense.

Hip-Hop is popular in America because the lyrics and words of the songs relate to the youth of the country. This is the same reason Rock took off and became popular in the 60's. Your understanding of what Hip-Hop music is seems extremely limited and based manily on mainstream rap artists, and on "commercials with a hip-hop backrounds".

How much exposure have you actually had to Hip-Hop music?

 

neo nazis are already in those lists
together with religious sects and other simmilar organizations

 

how does rap relate to any country?? a
nd if relating to culture is what makes stuff popular then why isnt thrash-metal mainstream??

 

The lyrics and the experiences talked about in Hip-Hop, are things that relate to what much of America's youth know. Rock still does this for many, but not nearly like it used to. People past their 30's tend to still listen to the music they liked when they were younger.

How many people relate to that scene?

 

thanks
is facism a problem in latvia?

 

my fav. is black and death metal

no. there's a lot more trouble from different religious sects.

 

So I guess my theory failed on the launching pad eh? I still think its an excellent theory, but still no one has proved why it could be wrong.

Anyways, most of the debating here is about what hip-hop is so this isn't going anywhere.

 

well, I like trash metal, and most other forms of metal, especially black and
death metal...


And talking about neo nazis, we have some problems with them here in Germany

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Rap became extremely popular because of a backlash of popular culture. In the 80's rock was god. All forms of rock. And it was good. The marketing rats in Hollywood went apeshit over the possibilities that MTV offered them. The ability to push more and more stereotypical manufactured glam make-up wearing glitter-dusting, teenybopper-teasing, pansy crap on us. And, it worked for a while. The marketing rats would put out a new band, advertise them in Circus magazine as the next best thing to god, pay MTV to air the videos left, right and center (by the way, they were filled with sexy chicks. You're sex analogy doesn't quite wash). And we ate it up. Eventually, we began to catch on. With me, it was in 89 when a band called Enuffz-e-nuff made it's appearance. It was hailed by "critics" as the next best thing since god, yadda yadda. It was an obvious, very obvious, imitation of poison. Poison who had already paled to any self-respecting rocker long before. And it was too much. Screw them. Screw their mass-produced crap. Screw their manipulative tactics. Screw the marketing rats all to hell. Luckily (or not perhaps, seeing as how things turned out) grunge was just that time beginning to arrive on the scene. It was fresh, it was new, it was not glam, poseur crap from Hollywood. America turned it's attention to Seattle. It was good. But, it was too good. Too much. Too fast. It couldn't last. The only alternative was rap. Which had been poking along since the late 70's or so.

Rap has the additional benefit of having a distinctive rythym and is easy to dance to. Rock (good rock) is not exactly dance music. It's violent, beat-the-shit-out-of-the-conformist music. Even poseur rock didn't have that great of a dance rythym. So, girls loved it because they could dance to it. Guys loved the gangster aspect of it. The marketing rats loved making money and don't care who they kill to get it. Everyone wins. Except for people with taste in music.

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Also, it seems that the rats have learned their lessons from the death of rock. They are more careful about pushing fads. They still do, of course, but not in the same overboard manner of the late 80's and early 90's.

Rock is dead. Long live Rock!

 

well... me, everyone i know, so that makes 1 person

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i like hard-rock, death metal, gothic, goth rock, thrash metal, industrial, sometimes hard techno