Syriah to be punished for terrorist support

No, the people of the US don't care what the rest of the world thinks.

I didn't say the people of the US, the people of the US are irrelevant. The power brokers at the top think that was expedient to get a UN resolution, it was a bitch fest btwn the defense department who just wanted to invade, and the more cognitive State Department. There is an almost neck to neck race in terms of what the US needs to do to start a war:

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So to state something to absolutely is quite ignorant considering that American public opinion more then makes up for that 7% today.

-- we don't even think about it.

Not surprising...

The Damnliberals don't care about the UN any more than Bush, but if Bush didn't at least pretend to use all diplomatic means, they could use the UN as an issue in the elections this year.

This shows you and me that the UN is relevant and very important in the US. If that was able to swing an election (showing how the US was not able to get a resolution) it goes and proves my point that the UN is relevant and powerful. So much so that it can alter American elections. Thanks for helping me out so very much…

The news is all ultra-liberal and not at all in sync with the views of the people (except maybe the centrist FOX news network).

You expect me to believe you when you call liberals, "damnliberals", and Fox News "Centrist"?!? You are delusional at best...

Rush has a huge appeal because a majority of Americans think as he does, or think more conservatively than he does. Sometimes he does seem too moderate

Can you show me how most Americans support that "pill popper" hypocrite? Sometimes America seems to idiotic...of course I think you are just here out of spite, and being a typical troll.

 

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Regarding the never ending edits, can you please complete a thought all at once?

I don't know what you means by invading Iraq being a disaster?

Maybe let's see, that the country is in a insurgency, and more Americans are dying now then during the actual war?

Iraq only stood up to the US troops for a few days.

If you consider a month a few days, that was a side show Saddam knew he was going to lose that battle, so he reoriented his battle strategy to "kill them when they are entrenched" works every time.

The Iraqi people will be put back in charge in a few weeks and the goal will be wholly accomplished -- democratic Iraq without Saddam. What's not to be proud of -- and the US did it with only a few hundred US casualties, an amazing feat.

It sure is when you have Ayatollah instead of Baghdad Saddam in power; oh yes short sighted American policy. You have to simply love it, and you are right. Iraq is an unqualified success… for Al Q. No wonder OBL supports Bush in this election.

American exceptionalism is truly mind boggling.

 

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UN resolutions remind me of premision slips in school lol ... Basicly the US asked for a premission slip was denied but did its own thing anyways. The other kids who always ask the teacher for them are bitching just like you undicided. (by kids I mean countries)

 

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Ah, doesn't it always bite the bully in the ass at the end when detractors can say: "look at this dick wad!" and his legitimacy is almost nothing when he wants to be taken seriously. Who wants to play with a bully? The bully will eventually lose his compulsion to hit the other kids, and eventually will want to kiss and make up. If he is so much of an asshole then it's a lost cause, and he may commit suicide or something of that magnitude. We will move on. The UN is so powerful that the neo-cons want to get rid of it, they know it demands more respect then the US ever will. If there is no UN, then at least the US can be "second best". I may be "bitching" but I tell the truth, and it hurts real badly.

 

Sure, Rush is on over 600 stations in every state of the union with over 20 million listeners (thats 20,000,000!). He has the largest following of ANY news commentator, and that includes TV. When he went public with his drug problem, his ratings actually went up!

I know that Howard Stern demands more listeners then Rush, and he is the "King of Media" with Radio, TV, and Movie. Guess what...he's a democrat too! Also the US population must be really small, last time I checked 20 million is not the "majority" of Americans, go learn some remedial math why don't yah!

 

Ahh but David there is a significant difference btwn Stern and Rush. People who listen to Rush are going to vote Bush,so it's really quite irrelevant. Stern on the other hand has a impact:

Stern's army of eight million listeners has some Republican strategists wringing their hands behind closed doors. (None would comment on the record for this story.) That's a sizable chunk of potential votes in an election that's shaping up to be as close as the 2000 race. The latest polls show John Kerry taking a slim lead over Bush, with the Massachusetts senator gaining traction in some key swing states like Ohio. It wouldn't take many votes to turn a pivotal battleground state from red to blue come November.

"Look at Howard Stern's audience: 18-to-34 year-old men," says John Zogby, head of Zogby International, a nonpartisan polling firm in Utica, N.Y. "This would be a group — Nascar, ESPN, sports, baseball caps on backwards, conservative, heterosexual, and so on — that ordinarily votes Republican. This could be hugely significant if these young men vote in greater numbers for Kerry."

Sort through the postings on Stern's Web site, and it becomes clear why his listeners could conceivably play a role in electing the next president. Young people, generally an apathetic lot when it comes to casting ballots, are being urged to register. And right-of-center Stern fans, typically Bush backers, are uncharacteristically vowing to pick Kerry over partisan loyalty.

"I live in Whitehall, Pa.," wrote one listener. "I'm a 34-year-old white-collar worker and never registered to vote. Because of you, I registered." Wrote another: "I'm a 25-year-old female from Chicago, and I just love you so much! I've never registered to vote until recently, and I will vote for Kerry." A third correspondent echoed the sentiment: "I have been a fan for a very long time, but I am now starting to listen to the show more carefully. Howard is saying things about our government that EVERY voter in America needs to hear about.... I can't wait for November to vote Bush and his regime out!" This isn't the message the Grand Ol' Party wants to hear. http://yahoo.smartmoney.com/decision2004/index.cfm?story=20040518&afl=yahoo


WHAT CAN IT BE!?! Republicans wiling to vote for Kerry because of Stern! Sure looks like it, and Stern is now pretty much a political pundit as long as Bush is in power:

"If you're listening to me now, the one thing I ask you to do is vote against Bush. Vote for Kerry," Stern said during a recent broadcast of his morning show.
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"Howard Stern is going to prove to be George Bush's worst political nightmare if he continues in this vein," said Michael Harrison, publisher of Talkers magazine.

And he's had success in the past. Stern takes credit for having helped his candidates win tight elections, including two Republicans, New York Gov. George Pataki and former New Jersey Gov. Christie Todd Whitman.http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/Politics/howard_stern_bush_040316-1.html


Listen Dave, don't play with the big boys ok...Rush has almost no influence on this election because his listeners are already supporters of Bush. Why bring up the converted they make no difference. Stern on the other hand can make Republicans go left, and it seems to be working. Don't mess around with the "King of all Media".

 

you do realize that sterns listeneres like myself arent automaticly democrat , granted there are things that people agree with his views but that because he doesn't bash republicans and agrees that both parties are spoiled equally. He critisizes both but doesnt belittle people who listen to one more then the other.

Furthermore Stern is more issue oriented and endorses people he believes would be good for this or that. Also he doesn't agree with staying put when people terrorise you and back the war on terror. Remembering Bernie Getz he reminds that guns should be legal and have their uses, he supports the womans right to choose and legalized drugs. But he is realistic he wont support any democrat unless his views and those of his listners are reflected. He doesn't make anyone go left that doesn't wanna go there so you are a bit wrong on that point. Also I m pretty sure he has more then 8.5 mil listners.

Yes he is very critical of free speech because he is directly affected but I m not sure he is going to support Kerry over Bush because I doubt he feels Kerry would fight for things important to him or people who listen to him. Placating the UN over our safety isnt really something Stern advocates if anything its the direct oposite.

 

The US should stop funding the UN. If the rest of the World loves it so much they can pay for it.

 

you do realize that sterns listeneres like myself arent automaticly democrat ,

Well, Mr. Dyslexia if you'd notice the post before this ridiculous example of why American education has failed you. You would notice that I and the articles mentioned said that most listeners are republican, but Stern has the ability to make many of those listeners vote for Kerry if they feel that Stern is in trouble.

Yes he is very critical of free speech because he is directly affected but I m not sure he is going to support Kerry over Bush because I doubt he feels Kerry would fight for things important to him or people who listen to him.

Are you incapable of reading? Seriously I mean are you mentally retarded? I am sorry this is not meant to be an insult, but I mean you simply cannot read can you, do you miss words? Do the letters dance?:

What the hell do you think that means? Please Eluminate don't make this into another China thread, because you will fail horribly like you the last couple of times. Here do me a favor and contact these people, they can help you.

Placating the UN over our safety isnt really something Stern advocates if
anything its the direct oposite.

I don't think Stern gives much of shit about that, all he cares about right now is stopping the "fascist regime" in power, those are his words. He could care less about Iraq when freedom of speech within the country is at stake. Sorry Eluminate, but you have to learn how to read, and basic logic.

 

It's about time <a href="http://www.geocities.com/arabracismplusjihad/Syria">Syria the MONSTER</A> Gets the message

 

Undecided, you are doing a fantastic job of bringing common sense and logic to a really strange thread.

However you are wasting your time in debate. Some here are truly paranoid psychopaths of the same type which formed the core of the German Nazi party of WWII. They will only feel safe when they have killed everyone but themselves. Truly sick people but only a small minority in the US. Unfortunately, they dominate the Republican party as well as this particular thread.

 

They should also be punished for their brutal occupation on Christian Lebanese, they don't face terrorists that they have to keep conrol there.

 

Deep piercing words, if you mean the Arabist Jihadi supporters.

 

"Arabist Jihadi supporters."
Would you please cite an example of a specific "Arabist Jihadi Supporter" on sciforums, and specifically what they advocate? I'm not sure what you mean.

 

Good news. I'm kind of curious why this wasn't done any sooner. It's no secret that Syria's been a proxy for all variants of shitbag insurgents since the offensive was finished.

Maybe he means Ghassan our resident Mujahid.

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i've already started

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i might be 14 but i still know how to use a RPG

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Well what happened was that the resistance sharply increased out of the blue (well for the Americans). As a result Bush wanted to calm things down and get the attention away from Iraq for his elections, so the worlds only superpower America as a result, moved all major posts and only kept small ones in Baghdad, gave power back to Sadam’s officials, moved most of the soldiers from hotspots, stopped reconnaissance helicopters from flying (the ones that did had a limit to how low and slow they could do, thus weakening their reconnaissance abilities) it even gave back power to Sadams old cronies.

if America did not pull out by now the casulties would be in their thousands.

 

hey Muhammad, i know

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is that you by any chance?

 

looks a bit like me, joke

 

lol I m voting for Bush I hope they free lebanon from syrian tyrants grip and level it.