PLZ help me!!! PLZ!!!!

Discussion in 'Biology & Genetics' started by jezza88, Aug 14, 2004.

  1. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Because to survive, u have to get out of there. that involves movement. U also have to think ur way out. Movement and thinking can only happen at a certain body temperature which humans can keep longer than snakes. When a snake is placed there it cannot do anything. The snake will live longer though.

    No, the opposite. The snake won't suffer unrecoverable damage until long after the human is dead.
     
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  3. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    There is nothing to do in the middle of nowhere. There is no way out. That is the idea. Also when you are suffering from hypothermia you stop thinking and you just want to lie down and sleep.
     
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  5. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Yes but hypothermia comes on later in humans than in the snake
     
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  7. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    In water hypothermia come quite fast, Naked on land with -30c and good wind it's perhaps just as fast.

    The snake can perhaps curl up somewhere escaping the wind, but the human has to choose between sticking it out or try and make a shelter loosing valuable energy and heat.
    rewarming from sever hypothermia is also a bit dangerous, as the heart becomes... agitated(perhaps there is a better word, if interrested look up hypothermia some where).
    So imo the humans survival chances are rather bad, But will a curl up snake far any better?, since snakes seems so thin, will it be able to protect its vital organs?
     
  8. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    they are both fucked I guess.

    None of them are adapted to these conditions.
     
  9. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    Yeah its kind of obervious, the only thing left is how fast does one cool down on land.
    Let Talk about chocholat instead, why is it brown? how come I cannot eat as much chokolade with a high %(70+) vs. a normal plate of chocholade?
     
  10. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Do they burn chocolate like coffee?
     
  11. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    No i think it's dried, then you sqeeze in a morta thingy to get the oil (chocholate butter) out and to get a chokolate powder, Im a bit hazy here it been a long time since i seen it.
    The chokolate beans are brown but the pods the come goes from green to brown to red.
    Have you ever been eating 70%+ chokolate it taste great, a bit bitter thou?

    Ok bad question about the brown color, and its the bitterness i think, that makes a natural blok for eating more.

    (pocket scientist, with the inteligence of a painted brick wall)
     
  12. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Chocolate is made from the cocoa bean, found in pods growing from the trunk and lower branches of the Cacao Tree, Latin name 'Theobroma Cacao' meaning "food of the gods".

    Producing chocolate is a time consuming and complicated process.

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    The first step is the harvesting of the cocoa pods containing the beans.
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    The Pods are crushed and fermented for about six days, after which the beans are split from the pods and dried.
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    The finest chocolate is produced when the drying process is done naturally by the sun for about 7 days,
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    Accelerated or artificial drying is quicker but produces the vastly inferior chocolate used in most mass produced products.
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    The next process is shared with coffee in that the beans are first roasted then graded, and ground.
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    The resulting powder is then pressed to extract the fat or cocoa butter.
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    The residue is what we know as cocoa powder or, as it is called in the trade, 'cocoa mass'.


    there seems to be some roasting involved. See the red.

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    http://www.aphrodite-chocolates.co.uk/how_chocolate_made.htm#MAKING CHOCOLATE
     
  13. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    Aphrodite sound tasty

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    , I know there where things in chokolate stimulating you brain but get this:

    that actually explains a few things

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    ref : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chocolate
     
  14. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    No, thats boring!

    The rate of cooling depends on the temperature difference between body and environment. There is very little cooling in the snake after a few seconds!
     
  15. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    After a few seconds?, do you mean it plummit to the temperature of its surrounding envirement almost instantly, without going into shock?

    It sound a bit strange, would you mind broading out your thougts for us, perhaps provide a link about snakes in cold envirement and there reaction to cold?
     
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    U mean u want me to elaborate?!

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    Ok, well yes; the snake will get to environmental temp without going into shock or hypothermia the way we do. It takes a lot longer to kill off the snake. Even after say a few hours, if the temperature rose a great deal, the snake would be perfectly fine. Don't know how long it would take to completely kill it off permanently.
     
  17. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    What prevents the snake from goint in to hypothermia
     
  18. John Connellan Valued Senior Member

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    Ahhh! The snake does not have such a sensitive system as we have. The snakes body is designed to cope with temperature fluctuations that would kill us instantly. They are better designed for low body temperatures and some can even be cryogenically preserved indefinitely! To give u an example, a reptiles body temperature varies from about 60 - 110 degrees on a normal 24 hr day! Our body temperature must stay in the range of 95 - 105 for us to be safe.
     
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    depends on what kind of snake...the human has better survival chances but the snake might bite the human and then the human dies anyway, then the snake would die after a short while because it's cold blooded.
     
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    There are actually lots of snakes in Finland and it does get below -30 here. And snakes do not get killed every winter. This would indicate that even snakes can exhibit adaptations (be it behavioral or structural) to survive in this could climate.
     
  21. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    And the man could use the snake as a hat, protecting 1 of his biggest sources of heat lose

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  22. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    Or the snake could crawl up the man's ass and conserve heat this way.
     
  23. Kunax Sciforums:Reality not required Registered Senior Member

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    if he was a gay man he might like it, but what if it was a anaconda, it might not fit.
     

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