Some cool remarks here: (and yes, money is involved) http://www.hsbr.net/servlet/readGenome?stock=TERM4
I've heard it will be set when John O'Conner is leading his resistance against Skynet, Arnie will apparently have a very small cameo role, so it might be a good film after all.
No doubt it will have to be set a decade or 2 after T3, for there to be a well-established resistance - and for Skynet to have invented and mass-produced terminators, whose purpose is to infiltrate that resistance. I hope Nick Stahl and Claire Danes will return; more interestingly, could Mostow find a lad who looks enough like Michael Biehn, to play a younger Kyle Reese (or maybe just a pre-teen kid)? With John Connor's mother dead, it would be a nice touch to reintroduce his father - for the 1st time, as it were. The Rock would make a decent terminator model, as Mercurio's link suggests. But there are plenty of big guys out there who wouldn't need to act. Why not a completely different terminator, such as a black man, or one designed to look scarred and mutilated (thereby attracting sympathy from its unsuspecting victims)? I don't suppose, unfortunately, that they can bring back Kristanna Loken, since her T-X character was a later development. Unless she plays a human this time, of course... perhaps, ironically, one who eventually became Skynet's model for the T-X production line.
Terminator 3 was a big pile of shit! The only way they're going to get me to see it if it's set in the future, and it damn well better be too!
Well, if at the end of 3 they were in the bunker that would mean that the apocolypse has happened. So, war baby! If not, T4 will be like Big Brother in a nuclear bunker :bugeye:
Of course it happened! Or were those city-flattening nuclear explosions at the end of T3 only in my twisted, delusional imagination, meaning that I have an evil desire to see millions of people die at once? Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! I suppose the new film could be called Terminator 4: The Year After, simply charting the meditations, introspection and eventual sex shared by John & Kate as they sit in that bunker, waiting for the fallout to decay above... That would be a sure-fire way to kill the franchise, once & for all.
T1: Terminator comes back in time to kill mother of the hero that was teh case of skynet's defeat in the future. Future is either set or parallel universe. T2: 2nd Terminator comes back in time to kill John, they stop it and also stop skynet from existing (see cut ending in dvd, read book) future splits to parallel universe where skynet never happens, Sarah and John literally saved the world, the end of the series! T3: Negating T2, the future is set no matter what you do in the past, skynet has to come into exist despite how it was prevented from existing multiple times, the date skynet destroys the world is moved up, thus changing the past, but yet skynet blowing up the world must happen? Obviously the writers of this had no clue what happens from time travel, you either sprout parallel universes or the future is set and no change what so ever can happen, so skynet had to destroy the world in 1997, or never, not at a later date! One could assume that perhaps they made a parallel universe where skynet does come into existence just later on. But the assurance of characters that the future was set, and other clues left in the movie make it seem like everything was doomed no matter what in some weird and totally unrealistic way. It not hard to see that this movie was created to suck more money out of the terminator juggernaut, rather then provide a complete and coherent story. “We can’t end terminator there more money to be made!” T4: If it comes into exists will be obviously even more profit driven then T3.
Perhaps this is a parallel universe where people still give a shit about the terminator series! I mean I don't have any desire to see 3. I couldn't care less about a 4. Then again I went and saw AvP and kinda liked it so what do I know?
Liek I said in the movies they can do anything, beyond all logic and reason, to make a profit. If you will pay to see superman betup skynet you better beleive someone has wrote it up already!
Bottom line: no-one can be certain what happens from time travel. It might be that, if the past is accessible, it can be changed, thereby changing the future; it might be that time travellers cannot alter anything, because their actions are already part of the history they know. Intervention meant to avert an event may, inevitably, be the trigger for the same event. Or both options (altering the future and pre-determined outcomes) may be possible for the same time traveller, if uncertainty principle has anything to do with it. Still, none of these options take account of some grand design to history, requiring the same outcome (namely, the development of Skynet and the Judgement Day holocaust) regardless of when or how it is achieved. That would require a kind of temporal metaphysics, or divine predestination. Neither of which was justified or proposed by the T3 scriptwriters...
Oh yes, that was a graphic novel entitled Superman/ The Terminator: Death to the Future. It ends by suggesting that Lex Luthor is somehow deliberately connected with the creation of Skynet. Just as another graphic novel states that Alex Murphy (RoboCop) was the cyberbetic causal factor which led to machines first becoming self-aware...
If you can change the future there is no predetermined outcome, quantum mechanics specifically prevents that. If you try changing the future and fail to change it significantly (like trying the prevent skynet from existing on multiple occasions) it is not because the future is predetermined, it just dumb bad luck that you could not do it, which is to say the least hard to believe. Parallel universes already happen one where skynet blows everyone up in 1997 and one where skynet blow everyone up in 2003, it would have been even more possible to have a parallel universe where skynet is stopped altogether (like in T2 ending) this is why it is so obvious that T3 was made for profit purposes fuck realism, and yes there was a god for T3: the scriptwriters.
Or you could say that the future is not predetermined whether or not you can go back and attempt to change it. Even if the time traveller were to simply observe past events and not interfere (Temporal Prime Directive Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! ), he might well see things turning out differently from the history he knew. Given the almost infinte number of possible futures, increasing exponentially in number the further ahead you think, then there seems almost no chance of returning to the same future you travelled from. Even if you only went back a few months.
