The timing of the next attack; and why I'm relieved.

I'm certainly no fan of Bush and his administration and I am mindful of the cautionary note that this is not about him and I intend to abide by that.

However I think that the response to September 11th - in Afghanistan and then in Iraq (not making tiresome judgements on either) - were so unexpected and so fierce that I don't think we'll see another big event from AQ. They're more likely to blow up a Volkswagen than the White House. The reasoning behind it isn't difficult to follow. Now I don't mean this to sound nasty but if an attack on the Twin Towers and on the Pentagon (and apparently one planned for the White House) could elicit the sort of response we've see in in Afghanistan and Iraq then if AQ ups the ante by doing something similar again then what else would Bush do in retaliation? Would he go into Syria and/or Iran and do it all again? I know that logistically it would be nigh impossible to sustain an invasion and occupation in either of those countries but perhaps AQ thinks that Dubya just might drop the bomb and put up with the ashes. A big even just isn't worth it. They will continue to niggle with small but destructive events I think.

 

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until the US is disarmed, yes

 

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Unneseccary quoting.

Which won't happen.

 

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However I think that the response to September 11th - in Afghanistan and then in Iraq (not making tiresome judgements on either) - were so unexpected and so fierce that I don't think we'll see another big event from AQ.

We hit afghanistan but let Al Quaeda and Bin Laden get away. They are now dispersed.

Our invasion of Iraq didn't touch Al Quaeda and I am sure must have been a recruiting bananza.

So our response was unexpected, fierce and stupid. My guess is Al Quaeda is as strong or stronger than before 9/11.

What is the risk to Al Quaeda if they hit us again? I would say zero. We have already done everything we can do. Our military is already totally streched. We can't invade Syria or Iran or Pakistan without a draft. As you suggest, the US could drop the A bomb. But where???? We can't even find Bin Laden. And Al Quaeda is thoroughly dispersed.

The downside of another Al Quaeda attack on the US is minimal with much to gain.

 

Wall Street is a VERY good target and Bin Laden was actually planning on striking it in 9/11 (from what ive read)

 

The more I think about it, the more a cruise liner attack makes sense. Low-cost, high-casualty (zero survivors if you really apply yourself) and very poor security on the high seas. Or in New York harbor. Or, for that matter, Port Canaveral - we can watch Mickey Mouse jump into the sea while on fire...

The other option is symbolic targets - Statue of Liberty, Liberty Bell, that sort of thing. You don't need a big budget or a lot of recruits for it, either. Takes little effort to derail trains or knock over big power lines. Just scares the living shit out of people....

 

te jen. Its the symbolic atack i ment when i said new years eve. its when everyone is just relaxing and it would target them at there feeling most secure. It would also probably kill mostly younger people which potentually hits the future workforce as well as there parents

that is a very caliouse assessment but it is what i have been expecting because its what i would do if i wanted to cause pain to a people. my prefered target tho would be the white house and parliment because they are not civillan targets and they deserve it but they are also harder to hit i would think

 

Al Qaeda really never has to commit another attack anywhere near the scale of 9/11, or really at all. Now all they have to do is play the propoganda game like we do. Periodically release a video threatening a new attack, or let some sensitive mis-information be purposely 'captured', which details an attack of some type in a US city. Homeland Security raises its color code to a higher terror level, people go into a panic, less people fly or travel to major cities, less people go to the malls, the Stock market wavers, the economy is weakened, and the government starts more talks about a new improved Patriot Act. All terrorists, or our government for that matter, has to do is make us think we are threatened. It has virtually the same results as an actual attack. Actually, it may even work better, since an actual attack, will unite Americans again like 9/11, and caused Americans, at least until Iraq became a major debate, to put behind the 2000 election.

If al Qaeda does want to initiate an occasional attack just to keep us reminded they can do it, hit something like a mall in a mid-size town in Middle America. Most Americans probably think that future attacks will be geared towards well known targets in one of the coastal cities, New York, LA, etc. Strike in Heartland America. If al Qaeda did want a bigger target than a mall a prime target I think might be the FedEx main hub complex. The largest carrier in the world, every package shipped globally through FedEx at some point goes through the central hub at the international airport in Memphis. Cripple FedEx on the world's number one carrier and watch the ripple effect on the stock exchange.

 

The USA is more or less a Sleeping Giant..... you can poke at it all day.... and it will do nothing but swat at you maybe or do nothing at all but if you poke out a Eye. Its going to grind you into the ground and feast on the souls of your children..... It takes alot to get the USA public going but once it gets going there is no stoping it...


Lets say that middle east started funding large scale terror attacks on the stats... I'm talking attacks weekly... What will the pubic think is going on?

I will tell you they will think the muslems are trying to wipe them out....

first thing is hate crime will skyrocket... muslems will be put in camps and hunted down for the entriety of the conflict.

Second if it is thought of a Muslem vs. the USA war then the people will be all for wipping muslems from the face of the earth.....


so if the terrorist want to win do it by slow small attacks over time get the public agrivated by the goverments inablity to do anything. Tell a politic change happens then stop the attacks.. But if they go for all out war it will take only so long before we say well there are 100,000 terrorist hiding in 10 million people.... well me might as well kill them all to make sure we got them all...

 

but by the time you have killed 1/4 of them the rest will be up in arms, then you dont have 100,000 enemies, you have 7.5million

 

they are already considered the enemy so it changes nothing.... Just gives a better reasion to kill them all... Or it could spawn a USA terrior campain fight fire with fire..... USA funds the paramilitary groups around the USA to do terrorist acts aginst targeted countrys... With a 10 fold rule in effect. for every bus you destoy we blow up 10... for every church you bomb we take out 10 of yours.... We stop when you stop..... If they don't stop time for some cleansing actions...

 

Quite the most eloquent argument for the application of eugenic principles that I've seen posted anywhere on this forum. And to do it within fewer than four lines while simultaneously defining bigoted, prejudiced and intellectually constrained, is delightful. You must be very proud of your masterful skills.

 

hhheheeh..... if a group of people are killing my people your saying I should just bend over and let them screw me? if thats raciest they yep i'm raciest...



lets see that unenlighted people are no better then rabid dogs and should be killed.... muslems are tought that......


now my side we should be nice to all people and do on to others as you want others to do on to you.....


no which side is the raciest...

 

Fear makes people consume excessive amounts.
The American governement have nothing but economy on their minds when it comes to terrorism.
If the governement was to mention 7-10 years of planning and training for the execution of the 9/11 event, it might put afew american minds at ease if they only knew how difficult it was for those terrorists to do what they did !!
( not that I thought it was right at all )
The truth is the almighty american government is a pawn in someonelses game, and the US what to be the Queen.

Do you know what I worried about over terrorism ?
The way our civilazation terrorises our planet, that affects everyone of us, whether you are american or from the mid-east.

 

the ball drops in bout 12 hours...

any predictions?

 

It wouldn't take much effort to take out the US power grid, thats where they'll strike next. Blow up a few nuclear power stations... or even just the power lines and let the people tremble in the dark for a few days. Then blow up the Alaska oil pipeline, in several places. Then a few dams. Then a bridge or a monument or two.

 

Funny, I thought we were all humans.

You might want to carefully, and precisely, identify those people. If I get caught in the crossfire I could lose my good manners.

Your religious insights are almost awe-inspiring. Yes, some moslems are taught this. So are some christians. Intolerance and ignorance are not unique to any race, religion or country.

Your side? Which side was that? Still, delighted to hear it. So when do you intend to start following this excellent principle?.

A small technical point. I think you are being accused of bigotry, not racism. In both cases you may plead a stunted intelligence as an excuse.

 

You live in NY city or another big city. Now what are your chances? I don't believe it is as unlikely as you think.

People like you are idiots, on both sides.

 

My people --- Amaricans
Ophiolite "Funny, I thought we were all humans."
We are Just some are more brain washed then others. With less respect for life...


Ophiolite "You might want to carefully, and precisely, identify those people. If I get caught in the crossfire I could lose my good manners."

Now lets not play stupid the only group attacking the US currently is Terrorists and Insurgents... Most if not all are Muslems

Ophiolite "Your religious insights are almost awe-inspiring. Yes, some moslems are taught this. So are some christians. Intolerance and ignorance are not unique to any race, religion or country."

Yes you do have a point there but you don't see random amaricans going to other countrys and straping bombs on them selfs and blowing up bus.

Ophiolite "A small technical point. I think you are being accused of bigotry, not racism. In both cases you may plead a stunted intelligence as an excuse."

Technicly it was racist because most if not all attackers are Arab desendents. Not seeing to many corn feed white boys blowing up bus's in the name of god.

Persol "People like you are idiots, on both sides."
Yes your right but at some point actions have to be taken... Ooo and by that statement alone it shows which side you are on. There have been mostly anti-USA comments saying how they should destroy the USA and no comments on them.... Lets pull up a little situation lets say that the holy sight in mecha gets smashed into by a plain load of satainists taking the holy of all holy sights to the ground... Now what would the the USA say they would be horifided and do all they could to help hunt down the attackers..... Now lets swich it up and say that a plain load of muslem extreamists crash into a packed indoor stadam with some high ranking people present... What would the muslem world say... Just like they said with the world trade center attacks... AAA to bad for you thank you drive though....

The problem is muslems are not getting mad that terror groups are using the god as a way to justify killing people... Not to mention the fact that they are calling for all muslems to join in there fight... If a branch of cathlics when militant killing jews and muslems do you really think that the cathlics would not cry foul.. And do all in there power to stop the spread of this branch...? Because of this the rest of the world feels that Muslems are backing the terrorists so at some point if the Muslems don't start say how much they hate the terrorist and helping the teach a better way then all out war is inevitalbe.

 

Your views might get taken more seriously if you could spell. I can understand you getting Mecca wrong: it is, after all, an interpretation of a word in Arabic script. I thought you might have known you were an American [though I suspect you are closer to being a merkin].

My central point is that in the scenario you describe, in bars and backyards across the US, some people would celebrate and cheer. They would applaud this blow against the violent, self-serving, hostile muslims. Just as some in the Islamic world applauded the blow against godless, war-mongering Americans on 911. I would not judge either side by the actions of either minority.