I joined the Christian Coalition to be able to receive things like this: Sorry for it being so long, but no link... Some scary things on the agenda - numbers 7, 8, and 9 are especially disturbing. Good bye democracy, hello theocracy! Number 12 - the ten commandments... I read an article by Kurt Vonnegut the other day which made the most reasonable argument I think I have ever heard about this issue. To sum it up, you don't see Christian groups trying to post the Beatitudes from Jesus' sermon on the mount anywhere.
Truly incredible; But inspite of it all only humor can explain my disbelief; Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image! Godless
The big difference between conservative and liberal groups is at least the conservative groups will admit they have an agenda, and actually spell out what they believe. Liberal groups seldom will admit what they are truly aiming for. Another fine distinction is that all of the things that the Christian Coalition is proposing require acts of congress to be voted up or down using the democratic process. Unlike liberal groups that routinely sidestep congress and run straight to the courts in order for a liberal judge to impose their will on an unwilling public.
Forgetting of course that the "liberal judge" is enforcing laws formulated by congress. What conservatives object to is the indiscriminate application of said laws. Freedom to marry for all, except... No laws regarding religion, except...
judges dont make laws, they only interpret them and the constitution. im really getting sick of this right wing "activist judges" bull shit. maybe if the right wing could understand the equal protection clause and the 1st ammendment you wouldnt have an issue with judges. the reason it gets turned to the judges is because the right doesnt respect the democratic process or the consitution. oh yes, tell me what this secret low key secret agenda of the left is that isnt being spelled out?
Well, let's see...the last time I looked, labor unions, teacher unions, NOW and other abortion advocates, the NAACP, CORE, NRA, VFW, the American Legion, anti-war groups, old people, young people, parental groups, law enforcement agencies, firefighters, conservationists, born-again Christians, militant atheists, farmers, retail merchants, manufacturers, etc., etc., etc., all have political agendas. Guess what! That's the beauty of the USA!
Well, of course a group like that is going to want a theocracy. That's the point of the group isnt it? Now, as a Christian myself, who is GAY, I sometimes find myself in a strange area. :bugeye: I mean, I'm all for faith and values.. blah blah, lol. The problem is, who determines it? For me, allowing gay ppl to get married is moral. But, for the christian couple down the street they feel its, baaaad, baaad. Shaking their head. I find their anti-gay-ism to be BAAAD, baaaad. Immoral maybe. Both christian, both moral, but both have a different idea as to what is moral. The Christian coalition of whom? Which denomination? If it has no denomination, then what the heck DO they stand for? Who decides? This is just some of the things that have always bugged me about how this last election religion was so loosely tied to Bush and our country. I'm religious, but I'm not going to vote LIKE EVERY OTHER religious person just because I AM religious.
Religion ,and I mean all religions have no place in politics. Superstition has no place in the running of a country
You mean like declaring war on Iraq? I dont remember Congress doing that Please Register or Log in to view the hidden image!
No, the point of a religion is to provide spiritual guidance for its members - make some sort of sense out of the unsensible. Or the more cynical view of religion keeping the poor from killing the rich. Your god? And they think you are a sodomite. Which one is right? Many believe the bible is the absolute moral authority as it is the word of God. Oh my, you are asleep. The "Christian" Coalition ( http://www.cc.org/ ) is a group of political ideologues founded by Pat Robertson. If you don't know who Pat Robertson is, you really need to look into it and realize what has happened to religion in america. The members can generally be defined as Southern Baptist, Southern Methodists, and other such "religions." They use hate and fear to promote their cult. Bush is a member, as is Jerry Falwell. You should be very afraid. You are one of the few.
Religion is politics. It's nothing but a primitive system of governance that we thought up before human societies developed the sophistication to actually start trying to base authority and power on relevant real-world ideas. It's too bad that that simple truth seems so elusive to our current administration.
