America getting ready for Iranian strike?

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Undecided, Jan 16, 2005.

  1. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    Hes just supporting his argument guys. Karma please put source at bottom of quote so people dont get pissed off. and undeciced your oging over board with your hate its not nice.
     
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  3. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    Thanks for the doc Stokes. I agree with you. The most relevant paragraph seems to be 5b:

    OMG I can't believe anyone would sign this. I do think the stop-lossed soldiers have a good case though, if they claim mental incompetence. Only someone mentally incompetent would sign a contract giving the government the right to do anything to them for the rest of their lives for potentially no benefit. What the hell were these people thinking when they signed?
     
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  5. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    Actually the relevant paragraphs are as follows:

    You call them mentally incompetent for agreeing to these things. I call them mentally incompetent for agreeing to them and then later pretending they didn't.
     
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  7. zanket Human Valued Senior Member

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    Are you saying that these people (on stop-loss orders) had all served less than 8 years when their stop-loss order took effect?

    The first (c) above says they (Reserve Component) can be required to serve as long as the war continues. Poor bastards, their stop loss order may continue for 40 years.
     
  8. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    ... I'll paraphrase it later...

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  9. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    good.
     
  10. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    State of National Emergency, baby. Your ass belongs to them as long as they see fit to retain it.
     
  11. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Too bad the Iraqi war isn't a state of national emergency. It threatens us not one bit.

    Forget joining the service due to political crap like that. Go join a militia or something instead if you're concerned about protecting this country.

    - N
     
  12. TRANSWARP Registered Member

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    If you think iran will be sent to the stone age without some kind of dramatic retalition then you are plain and simple thick...what about your mother land israel, the country that is wars are happening for, surely they'll be getting some gas delivered by shabab 3, and iran does have most chemical and biological wepons, if there country is destroyed you can expect some shit on US mainland.

    so those who say bomb em, think carefully before your country starts another war for the jooooooooooos.


    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/articlesterror.html

    http://www.americanfreepress.net/Mi..._Detained/israelis_arrested_and_detained.html

    http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiveisraelis.html

    http://www.rense.com/general47/sslib.htm

    http://www.nowarforisrael.com/
     
  13. TRANSWARP Registered Member

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    You say they are illogical, yet judging by your post i'd say your brainwashed by the zionist media, or even a fundo christian or jew, i mean wtf should israel have nukes then?, why not disarm israel, its all about fulfilling those bull shit prpohercies about greater israel, but think again.



    i mean who belives the war wasn't for those poor poor jews?

    look at them... beofre even the war finished these scums go plan another war...
    http://www.theinsider.org/mailing/article.asp?id=0614
     
  14. Muhlenberg Registered Senior Member

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    I don't believe the war was for the "jooos" as you call them. In fact, fail to see how Israel or the "jooo" benefit at all.

    If Iraq makes it, if the region does become democratic, Israel is in for some fierce economic competition and huge middle classes right in the neighborhood.

    The first Gulf War never ended. We only had a truce. One which Saddam repeatedly violated. Then, in 1998, Congress voted almost unanimously for the Iraqi Liberation Act00which stated regime change as the goal of the Act. Once again, in 2002, Congress voted overwhelming to topple Saddam if he did not adhere to the terms of the Gulf War truce and over a dozen UN resolutions.

    To claim that "the joos" had that much influence over three administrations and the UN is simply silly.

    Especially when there is no obvious benefit for them having exercised it to spark a war.
     
  15. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    There won't be a democracy there. Why? Simply because they have no idea what a democracy is, how it works and why should they prefer it over theocratic, monarchis or any other quite natural and historical state governing mechanism to them.
    Chances are, by experimenting with democracy they'll sink in even deeper misery and become more dangerous to the other world.
    Democracy is a tool of the western civilization. If it works for us it doesn't mean it works for other cultures, especially the Islamic world, since they are in "the middla ages" so to speak.
    What is needed is to devide Iraq in 3 counties, don't allow them to have any real military power, by contracts USA takes responsibility that no toher country attacks them. If one country of those 3 declares war or wars with another, it is overthwrown by the USA.
    Oh, and in each country let the natural way of governing establish either through monarchy or theocracy (prefered monarchy).

    But noooooo, the USA wants to be the shiny knight of democarcy as the absolute system of governing, that's why they screw up.
     
  16. TRANSWARP Registered Member

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    Are kidding me, don't people have eyes, israel for the last 2 years has been sending threats to iran, and now iran is under pressure, how the fuk can people say these aren't wars for israel.


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    quote:What is needed is to devide Iraq in 3 counties, don't allow them to have any real military power, by contracts USA takes responsibility that no toher country attacks them.

    Splitting iraq into three country is what the joooooooooooooos have been planning for a long time, one sunni, shia, kurd.

    Israel will pay for the price of having iraq destroyed.
     
  17. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Uh, how in the heck do you get that view by my post? Rofl, I'm far from that. I’m posting nothing but tactical truth of what should be done by the Axis of Evil. Don't insult me by calling me a fundamental Christian or Jew. Thanks.

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    And what's my post have to do with Israel having nukes? In no way have I said that Iran or anyone else should be disarmed. Why? Because there is no way you can disarm a country that wants certain technology. They can say they're disarmed and they can act like they're disarmed so that they continue to get their good end of the deal (trade) while still being able to do their secret research on nuclear weaponry.

    I’ve never said Iran or anyone is illogical, they are far from it. Usually I put those words in paranthesis to show those being someone else’s words to use against their idiotic selves. People call them illogical all because they don’t think like “civilized westerners”. Sorry but that isn’t the only way of thought nor is it the only right way of thought. The people in charge here are stupid trying to fight an enemy thinking they’re going to react the same way we would. So they call them illogical, brutal, uncivilized, or other insults when all that does is make themselves look stupid by underestimating their foes.

    My post was simply saying what Iran and Syria should do. I'm not saying I'm worried about Iran, Syria, and other countries having an Arab Pact as if I’m some “worried Jew”, it's something that should be done through common sense. Kinda funny timing how I’m hearing about this “alliance” all over Fox News today, heh. They'd be stupid not to have one. Do you honestly feel disarmament would work? Look at the results of the UN inspectors in regards to Iraq. They were disarmed yet we STILL invaded them. The only thing disarmament with those countries would do is make it easier for us to invade them. We're going to invade them regardless of what happens just like with Iraq.

    So for Syria, Iran, and other "Axis of Evils" to not have an alliance against the U.S. is stupid. Once more U.S. forces step foot in Iraq in preperation for the ongoing Crusade in the Middle East is when all the Arabs should invade Iraq, even nuke Iraq if possible. Either way they’re gonna be pounded on by us so they should at least not go down without a huge fight especially since they’re powers able to do so. The U.S. says we're doing all this due to them to protect us from being a “future threat”. Well this IS the conflict. It's happening right now and it wasn't started by them but by us. And it’s sickening how many people here believe in that crap of this being for the better good of ourselves. The U.S. created their own demon so the time has come to deal with their nightmare, unless it wasn’t a nightmare but a sweet dream of having the Arabs go bye-bye.

    - N
     
  18. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Maybe someone here can answer my question.

    What gives the USA power to decide which country in the world can use nuclear technology or not? Be it either power stations or weapons.

    If the USA attacks Iran I will welcome each and every action of retaliation from Iran or any of its' allies. The USA has no dignity and respect for other countries sovereign rights.
     
  19. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Well, there are several reasons. The first of which, which you will not like, is because we can.

    The better answer is that is in everyone's best intrests if nucular weapons are only in the hands of those who won't use them. They are fine for posturing and both Russia and the US have gotten very good at that but self preservation and mutual anihilation keep us from using them. Some of these fanatical theocracies or dictatorships might not think far enough past 'the obliteration of the Western Infidels' or whoever else they don't like that day. Too many of their leaders think some diety is going to save all their asses in one way or another when retaliation comes.
     
  20. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Problems start (for you) when another country shows that it can too. /sneers
     
  21. Clockwood You Forgot Poland Registered Senior Member

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    Problems start when somebody shows both that they can and they might go salted earth.

    There wouldn't never be a broblem with Japan, Canada, or some stable west european country having nukes. Its when the people who might start using them in a poorly thought out jihad that we have to worry.
     
  22. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    I rather think that's why some of us are a mite uncomfortable with current US rhetoric and actions.
     
  23. surenderer Registered Senior Member

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    All hype.........I dont see M.E. countries invading Western countries at the drop of a hat. Now your answer would be "well because they knew they would lose" but my answer to that is you also say that these "jihadists" countries are promised eternal bliss if they die so why would they care? Pakistian(muslim country) getting nukes prevented them going to war with India didnt it? The simple answer is that the U.S, is commited to being on top and being able to U.S. economic(thru sanctions) and military might to do so but when a country devolops nukes then they can pretty much write their own tickets in the World and bring themselves to the bargining table
     

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