america's doom?

Discussion in 'Free Thoughts' started by weed_eater_guy, Feb 3, 2005.

  1. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    The republicans won the last civil war against the democrats... and they'd win the second.

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    Come get some.

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  3. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Oh yes, sure! It's like..... $40 million dollars spent on a stupid innauguration while some $35 million going to the tsunami disaster, up from what? 4 million?. Geeezzz.....

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    No, seriously... you are completely brainwashed by stupid US media...!

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  5. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    See how "generous" you are.......

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    http://www.boston.com/news/world/as...bal_analysts_dispute_perceived_us_generosity/

    http://www.danieldrezner.com/archives/001805.html
    "[R]anking of contries by relief aid per capita per day (in cents, not dollars):
    1. Norway 21.04
    2. Sweden 11.81
    3. Denmark 5.95
    4. Switzerland 5.85
    5. Netherlands 5.15
    6. Belgium 2.94
    7. United Kingdom 2.58
    8. Finland 2.38
    9. United States 2.34
    10. France 2.17
    11. Canada 2.10
    12. Australia 1.93
    13. Ireland 1.83
    14. Austria 1.23
    15. New Zealand 1.18
    16. Spain 0.61
    17. Germany 0.61
    18. Italy 0.42
    19. Greece 0.27
    20. Japan 0.06
    21. Portugal 0.03"

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    http://www-hoover.stanford.edu/pubaffairs/we/2004/bdm07.html
    http://www.sciforums.com/showthread.php?t=44808
     
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  7. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    First, the 40 million couldn't be spent on the tsunami.
    Second, we deployed a carrier group which although it didn't cost us much, was worth MORE then the hundreds of millions from other countries. We can actually DO SOMETHING. And we did.

    Third, if we did things like the europeans then our economy would be 25 percent smaller just like theirs are per capitia, we'd have had no carrier group to deploy, and what money we gave would just go to corrupt government officals... or at least a lot of it would.


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  8. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    the first thing he said was this...
    At any rate, I doubt that takes everything into consideration. To say nothing of hte security we bring to regions.

    The US is an enormous force for good.
     
  9. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    I could care less about "per capita" rankings as it's pretty meaningless. Obviously the less populated countries are going to be the highest donating ones. And even with the U.S. and U.K. still being in the top 10, let's not forget that they're currently at war so the victims in the tsunami are lucky enough to get any kind of aid from them. But hey, it's not like the donations matter as at this point as it's all just a penis-envy contest to see who's is larger since hardly any of that money is even going to the victims anyways. If anything, what the rankings do is show what countries are helping better fund the corrupt people that are skimming all the money so the lower the ranking, the better.

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  10. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    "The US’s economics are good..."
    US economics suck.
     
  11. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Yes...

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    Just like Canada sent theirs.....

    How the f*** did you come up with the 25% figure!? :bugeye:

    Oh my God! A carrier group to deploy! Wow!

    Corrupt government officials, those, that the US put in power....

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    I lost the hope you will ever do that.
     
  12. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Yes, ah...

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    What!?!? That makes no sense! If they are less populated, it is obvious that they have less money! Why would the ones with less money be the highest donors!?!?

    With the money those clows are wasting in that war they could have helped many countries that are suffering with starvation, caused by extremely low wages from multinational US companies.... :bugeye:

    It is not about a contest. I'm sure Sweden doesn't even care how much it is donating, it just is. Swedish people are very international and diverity-friendly, contrary to the US. They donate because they want and because they can. It is not about who gets to give more, it is about the outrageous lack of compassion from your stupid government. :bugeye:

    Let us not forget that the US helped putting most (or even all) of the dictators of the world into power. Want a list? Let's start with Pinochet and Sadam, not to mention dictators from Argentina, Brazil, Sri Lanka, Indonesia, etc....
     
  13. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Yes! Like Iraq! How many dead already, 100,000!?

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    Yes... good joke.
    OMG! Never say that again. I almost puked at university!

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  14. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Well smaller countries tend to be fully developed. What more do the top countries listed need to further develop their country? The less change that happens due to a country being fully developed, the more funds that are available to be put towards various things such as this.

    Oh, I totally agree. I didn't vote for this war but there's not much I can do to stop all these funds being wasted on the war. But the fact of the matter is that they're involved in a war so they have less funds to go around for helping other countries.

    I was gonna add a safety comment like "thank goodness the U.S. isn't #1 this time" so that you wouldn't say something like that which I know you would. I'm not trying to turn this into an argument like that, I was merely pointing out what the tsunami relief fund has turned into.

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  15. Karmashock The Doomslayer Registered Senior Member

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    if they still have them, then they're likey WW2 relics. The water systems and helocopters that the US brough were significant enough to get the UN to even give us credit...

    Worth their weight in GOLD they said... that's a lot of gold...

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    Americans generate about 25 percent more wealth per capitia then Europeans do... how do you think we maintian almost the same economic size as the whole EU even when we have a much smaller population?

    Look it up.

    When you're cold and hungery... and everything is destroyed around you... that carrier group is not something to make jokes about.


    We put the indonesian government in power?
     
  16. TruthSeeker Fancy Virtual Reality Monkey Valued Senior Member

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    Oh please.....!
    Study some math and history before you talk with me again!

    Thanks.

    Geeeeeeeezzzz....

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    unbelievable....

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  17. -Bob- Insipid Fool Registered Senior Member

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    If you go by red vs. blue- the traditionally victorious north (made up of democrats) would still kick ass.
     
  18. lixluke Refined Reinvention Valued Senior Member

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    Everybody voted for this war.
    When Osama hit New York, the entire America was riddled by blood thirsty cows out for revenge.
    Idiots of America wanted war, idiots of America are suffering the consequences of war.
    The dolt of the US played right into the republicans hands. Republicans want war.
    We encouraged what they already wanted anyway.

    Kill Osama was the only thing on the lemmings' mind. They killed our innocent civilians. Let's kill theirs. Or did America actually believe that retaliating wouldn't affect any civilians. That the war would only be waged against the bad guys.

    You cried out for war when they bombed us. This is the result. Stop crying about what you asked for. You asked for war thinking that it wouldn't affect anybody other than those involved attacking New York. Get real. War affects everybody.

    If zombies would have asked for a proper investigation and a fair trial against those accused of attacking New York, we wouldn't be in this predicament. Bet what was your attitude? They didn't give us a fair trial when they bombed us. Let's not give them a fair trial. Let's not abide by the laws that we created to protect the rights of everybody. Let's do whatever we want and kill whoever we want.
     

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