Louisiana Purchase

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  1. Athena Athena Registered Senior Member

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    Native Americans

    New question.
    Does anyone have a good knowledge of American Indian tribes? Or know of a source that does? Thanks!
     
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  3. invert_nexus Ze do caixao Valued Senior Member

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    Two words: Manifest Destiny. The Louisiana purchase made this strange idea possible.

    Another two words (three really): Louis and Clark. Their expedition to the west coast of the continent was amazing and demonstrates the spirit of exploration that our forefathers possessed.

    Another two words: Homestead Act. The lands purchased in the Louisiana Purchase were so immense that everyone who could hold a homestead could have their own land. The Homestead Act was, of course, many years after the purchase but was still dependent upon it.


    I can't believe that you're having trouble thinking of things to say about the significance of the Lousiana Purchase. I'd be having trouble thinning out the possibilities on what to say about it to just a few.
     
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  5. Athena Athena Registered Senior Member

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    hah, you're right. sorry, its been a loooong day. trust me.
     
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  7. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    helped the us become a world power, and masters of trade along the mississipi river.
    also helped prolong the napoleonic wars, thus killing many many more people in europe and russia, because it gave nappy the money to fund his wars.
     
  8. River Ape Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah . . . but don't you reckon the US would have ended up with that land anyway, one way or another?
     
  9. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    no, not really. before that, we had no "manifest destiny" it was the Purchase that began it all. We needed the land, but couldn't risk taking it by force. we needed it by legal means, and TJ knew this.
     
  10. certified psycho Beware of the Shockie Monkey Registered Senior Member

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    ALso they grew economicly. The U.S had access to the Missippii River. They trade almost anywhere.
     
  11. Athena Athena Registered Senior Member

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    Okay, i got another one for y'all. Battle of Gettysburg. Turning point, now South fights defensive..blah. Any thing else? i have to make it longer.
     
  12. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    why not antietam?
    if the south had won antietam, Britain and France ay have allied with the confederacy. Then, the US wouldve been f***ed way up the wazoo.
     
  13. Odin'Izm Procrastinator Registered Senior Member

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    I support the red indians.
     
  14. Athena Athena Registered Senior Member

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    ...good to know.
     
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  16. spuriousmonkey Banned Banned

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    I would say yes, because Napoleon sold it rather easily. That is because he knew he couldn't hold on to it.
     
  17. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    mmm hmm. 'kay.
    so, what, the US wouldn't have taken it by force?
    remember, we wanted to stay the fuck out of european problems until the late 1800s.
    taking it by force would mean declaring war on napoleonic france, which means the best infantry of the day landing on US soil, which means...death and destruction and the tricolor.
     
  18. River Ape Valued Senior Member

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    If the US had waited until Napoleon's defeat at Waterloo, they could have siezed "Louisiana" -- gratis! -- and the French would have been able to do nothing about it.

    Now, don't mistake me, I think the Purchase was a good move for the US. A legal acquisition, and no enemies made. But there's no way that "Louisiana" was going to remain French for very much of the 19th Century.
     
  19. Xylene Valued Senior Member

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    OK, but what if Napolean hadn't needed the money to renew his war in Europe, and has told Thomas Jefferson to get stuffed instead of selling him the watershed of the Mississippi/Missouri? You'd possibly have French control of the Miss. Valley to this day. Besides, why didn't the South follow up its victory at the First Battle of Manassas (Bull Run)? They could have ended the Civil War in a fortnight.
     
  20. Hapsburg Hellenistic polytheist Valued Senior Member

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    Huh.
    Dunny why we didn't...
    morons....
     
  21. cosmictraveler Be kind to yourself always. Valued Senior Member

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  22. Spyke Registered Senior Member

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    How do you suppose the French were going to transport that army across the Atlantic? Britannia ruled the waves. The Imperial Armee may have been the finest force in Europe, but the Royal Navy reigned supreme on the High Seas. Napoleon was no fool. He knew it would be extremely difficult to hold the territory. Better to sell it than lose it and get nothing.
     

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