Things creationists hate: Beetles

Re: tisk tisk tisk...

Another question comes to mind -

If the god was so pissed at the state of the world as it was in the past, then he would have many times the reason to be angry with the world as it is today!

We are obviously long overdue for another flooding.

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Watch out for anyone who is building a large boat and/or collecting animals! They might know something we don't!!!!!!!!!!!

 

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It takes a day to create Earth, but takes days to flood it?

No wonder god is losing his power since day one...

 

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Re: Re: tisk tisk tisk...

So he couldnt just call a cleaning service? Was he trying to get rid of the blood stains he himself made from pitting countries against eachother (he is a war god after all...) or was he trying to paint the whole globe red white and blue?

Ok so if god will close the mouths of lions why could the romans feed god's children to them in the good old days? If I were to through some evangilists and missionaries to them would god close their mouths or would they be eaten like any other pray animal? Ok If I get both the lions and the christians will you supervise the test? Oh or we can throw an equal number of pagans and christians to the lions and see which the lions prefer... God can close lions mouths what about wolves and crocodiles and cougars and snakes? There is no biblical referance to him closing thier mouths, how can you extrapolate that god will indeed do that or is it beyond is power as he might only be the god of lions and lambs (and a talking ass... burning bush

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and a rebellious snake...) and christians...

 

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God broke one of his own 10 comandments "Thall shall not kill" what kind of example is that

for give me i cant spell

 

Kalvin is correct, the flood itself and the ark are not absurd. Science does however disagree with the possibility of the time line that it is placed on in the Bible. Moses wrote not from first hand knowledge but from knowledge that was passed down, so one wouldn't expect exact dates from such an era. He wrote what he knew to have happened in the order he understood them to have taken place...he never said it was an account of the entirety of all events that ever took place in the world.
The flood itself and the ark are accounted for in far more ancient texts...so many accounts of it in fact that it is deemed to likely hold some crediblity. There have even been archeological finds that do in fact elude to it haveing happened. Many flood texts did not portray it as God killing out of anger, but destroying a faulty creation in order to correct the problem. Which really isn't all that far removed from His reasons given in the Bible...He was displeased with the man He had created.

Messor, there were no commandments during the time of Noah. But thats another point.

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As for the slowing down theory....and Im not saying it is viable. But for the sake of argument...yes if something is set in to motion by any form of exsplosion or even shift then over time it would slow down...friction. That is among the laws of motion and is reasonable.

 

Yes this is true but God is all knowing, he knows the past, present, & future, but yet he still broke his own Camandment!!

What just because we did not know of it it makes it ok?

 

He broke all of em.

He broke another one by his own existance, what was that none of the children of isreal should be a seer (or something to that equivalent) and yet her incarnated as a child of isreal and so he broke his own commandment. The punishment for that was God's face (must have one ugly mug) turned against the unfortunate. So did God kill himself, or did he break another of his commandments? why should we worship a dead god?!

Further more the idea of a flood that killed off all man kind is hogwash. A more outlandish idea is this, Genetic memory carries with it the most tramatic event in mankinds existance, a near extinction event, of which only 30000 survived. This was due to a disease as that is what the evidence points too. Now man remembers the near extinction but not the disease (the emotion not the details...) so in his limited perspective he created a flood mythos (as that is the most destructive force he has yet to encounter, today it is sometimes [on the fringes] considered to be a massive antient neuclear war started by the flood mythos evolving to suite modern needs...) that gave him reason for his feelings. He then built up a whole god thing around this and yadda yadda yadda a few hundred thousand years later we are talking god's wrath massive flood and all that bs.

 

*Originally posted by Xelios
If you can't answer these questions I don't even want to hear any more of your "slowing down" theory. *

I told you it was difficult to understand.

*Originally posted by James R
And why doesn't the bible mention the world-wide volcanism which must have accompanied the sudden breakup of Pangea?*

Why should it?
How is that important?

It mentions that the earth was divided...

And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
(Genesis 10:25, KJV).

*Originally posted by G0D
We are obviously long overdue for another flooding.*

With fire.

But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
(2 Peter 3:10, KJV).

*Originally posted by mato
???????????*

All good questions.

*Great Ape and Proud of It!*

I don't know about "great."

*Originally posted by Messor
God broke one of his own 10 comandments "Thall shall not kill" what kind of example is that *

He didn't say "I shall not kill."

*Originally posted by mato
Further more the idea of a flood that killed off all man kind is hogwash.*

Of course it is.
8 people survived.

*A more outlandish idea is this, Genetic memory... and all that bs.*

You're right.
That is outlandish.

 

I told you it was difficult to understand.

Thank you, since you cannot even comprehend your own theory I don't even want to discuss it any more. Bring it up again when you either have some "stuff" to back up your claims or actually understand what it is you're talking about.

 

Hmm, looks like god wants inferior humans held a moral high ground higher then he was.

Once again it proves that while humans are inferior to god in tech, they are superior than god in moral.

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*Originally posted by Xelios
Thank you, since you cannot even comprehend your own theory I don't even want to discuss it any more. Bring it up again when you either have some "stuff" to back up your claims or actually understand what it is you're talking about. *

I had no idea that "slowing down" was so difficult for you to understand.
Think of it like a car travelling a given speed.
Then think of the driver applying the brakes.
The car "slows down" thus travelling at a speed that is "slower" than before.

*Originally posted by daktaklakpak
Hmm, looks like god wants inferior humans held a moral high ground higher then he was.*

No, more like holding some moral ground.

 

tony, your unwillingness to address the issue at hand has stunned me again.

I had no idea that "slowing down" was so difficult for you to understand.

That's not the difficult part, the difficult part is answering the questions I presented in my previous post. It's obvious you cannot answer them or you would have done so. But just in case you missed them (which seems entirely possible with you) here they are again, bolded even:

Oh, I see, and what caused Pangea to suddenly explode apart at several meters per second? Why should it be slowing down? Does a boat in an ocean slow down when it is being carried by the waves?

 

*Originally posted by Xelios
Oh, I see, and what caused Pangea to suddenly explode apart at several meters per second?*

Beats me, I wasn't there to observe it.
However, the Bible does describe it.

And unto Eber were born two sons: the name of one was Peleg; for in his days was the earth divided; and his brother's name was Joktan.
(Genesis 10:25, KJV).

Since the planet didn't actually split into pieces, I assume that it is talking about the earth's surface which was out of the water.

*Why should it be slowing down?*

Friction.

*Does a boat in an ocean slow down when it is being carried by the waves? *

Are you suggesting that there are waves in the earth's magma that are pushing the tectonic plates around?

 

Are you suggesting that there are waves in the earth's magma that are pushing the tectonic plates around?

Not full fledged waves, no, but turbulence that pushes the techtonic plates around.

Friction.

Just because there is friction present in a system doesn't mean the object has to slow down. Take a car for example, as long as you continue to apply energy to overcome air resistance the car will keep moving at a constant speed. The sea of magma the techtonic plates float on do just that.

Since the planet didn't actually split into pieces, I assume that it is talking about the earth's surface which was out of the water.

That's the problem with quoting the Bible, most of the time you are assuming anyway.