Will America couse World War III

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Avatar, Mar 12, 2002.

  1. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Will it do it? It is unstabilisating situation in all the world.
    It says in loud tht it considers to use nuclear weapons, intrude Iraq, has named the Axis of Evil (N Korea, Iraq, Sudan and oth.)
    Is going in for race of armament, spends more than ever on military budget, infiltrates the republics of post SSSR, insults Russia, publically announces tht it will bomb Chinese if it attacks Taiwan.
    It is all right and many of these things have to be done, but why to cry it out loud. It maddens many Arabic countries, makes Russia spit in anger, and make Chinese thoughtful. It is all good, but US wants everything in one time. It is one against almost all the rest of the world.
    I have many friends in Taiwan and I strongly support them, but US should not cry out its support so loud, it shouldn' t make mad many countries tht can't choose their side.
    And to put a good end to tht America has an idiot as a president, who knows of n-thing outside his Texas ranch, who doensn' t know the difference between devalvation and deflation(it made the Y sourse drop dramatically)

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    In conclusion- America can couse WW III with all its shouting and insulting, with its doubtful strategy and idiotic president.
    Yes- it should strenghten the peace, but more stealthy with quieter methods.

    Cheers!
     
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  3. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Let's just say I wouldn't be surprised. If anyone knows any world leaders, though, tell them not to nuke maine. We all hate bush here.

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  5. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    Look at the size and strength of America and her allies; look at the size and strength of the desperados which we now target. I don't see a world war, just a good pouncing. You need to remember that Russia, China, and all of the big players are with America in this one.
     
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  7. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Desperados who can buy chemical weapons and then the size won't count.
    And don't be so quick about Russia.
    I have russian channels at home and they are quite mad about last moves of US i.e. it being entering and taking away its influence territories.
    BTW did you know -russians are very mad @ USA for the last olimpics, just watched the news, as a response it prohibited USA to import any birds in Russia 1/5 of all the US import.
    The situation is very unstable know and the last drop may fall in some 3 or 4 years if US contionues like this kind of international relations.
     
  8. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    The desperados have the ability to step on our toe, but that's about as far as it goes--they can cause enough pain to make us angry.

    As for the Russian people, their national pride is hurting, but their politicians are not so crazy to let that dictate their policies--that excludes those officials who control the importation of chickens, of course.
     
  9. Avatar smoking revolver Valued Senior Member

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    Well, yes and no. The world "peace" is very fragile now.
    It is not war jet and I hope it never will, but you have to admit tht US must be careful when speaking to other countries. US is hating and others are hating US and hate never leads to any good or peace.
    Bye!
     
  10. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    World War III? I am inclined to believe that it will not go that far, then again, how many nations must be involved before you would define it as a “world" war?

    I think that much violence will hinge on whether The United States attacks Iraq. The whole concept still makes me angry to think about. Bush stated in his State of the Union Speech that the Iraqi regime continues to flaunt its hostility towards America. It makes me wonder where in the hell to we get off?

    So any nation that displays "hostility" to the US, and refuses to suck our toes and kiss our boots must be destroyed? Perhaps every nation in the world should have the right to attack every other nation on Earth who " flaunts hostility" towards them. So then, every nation on Earth towards whom the US "flaunts its hostility" should have the right to come over here and attack us?

    Do you see where this mindset leads?

    Peace.
     
  11. Bowser Namaste Valued Senior Member

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    We have only now started to experience terrorism on our own turf. Many of our allies have been dealing with the problem for many years--Russia included. Is it any wonder why so many have jumped in the boat with us?

    <i>"The world "peace" is very fragile now."</i>

    There is no such thing. There never has been and, probably, never will be. Yours and mine are the fate of shifting power and influence. Should the world ever fall under the governance of a single power, we might actually see "world peace." It wont happen in my lifetime, but may in yours.

    <i>"US is hating and others are hating US and hate never leads to any good or peace. "</i>

    Think. America was the castle with which all envied. We were a symbol of security and prosperity. So large was our image that many smaller countries have used the American dollar as a reserve for backing up their own currency. The world is invested in our image, one way or another; and with our fall also tumbles all others.

    We are protecting our image as much as ourselves and the world. Sure, we are angry, but that's not the most important motivator in this war. Study the Roman Empire and its demise. There is a parallel.

    It's not so simple.
     
  12. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    And all this madness, all this rage, all this flaming death of our civilization and
    our hopes, has been brought about because a set of official gentlemen, living
    luxurious lives, mostly stupid, and all without imagination or heart, have chosen
    that it should occur rather than that any one of them should suffer
    some infinitesimal rebuff to his country's pride.

    -Bertrand Russell on the First World War


    Gavrilo Princip, the Bosnian-Serb who shot and killed Archduke Franz Ferdinand thus set the wheels of World War I in motion. Who would have known this one incident would lead to a world war.

    http://www.ukans.edu/~kansite/ww_one/photos/bin04/imag0377.jpg

    http://www.lib.byu.edu/~rdh/wwi/1914/ferddead.html
     
  13. goofyfish Analog By Birth, Digital By Design Valued Senior Member

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    An important distinction to remember is that the assassination of the Austrian Archduke by Serbian nationalists did not cause World War I. It was, in fact, only a tiny factor among many large factors; but it certainly precipitated a war crisis that fed on an accumulation of international rivalries and tensions -- militarism, extreme nationalism, German-French rivalry in Europe and Africa, Austro-Russian rivalry in eastern Europe, Anglo-German competition, Austrian boundary difficulties, clashing imperialisms in Africa, and so on.

    Many of the greatest wars were not started by nations "bent upon war." In World War I, it appears that the leaders of the principal nations, propelled by their own characters and by the forces operating on them domestically, blundered their way into the war. Though the countries may be different today, the larger parallels are interesting.

    Good point, Q.

    Peace.
     
  14. ICARRYALOTOFBULLETS Quit smoking...:) Registered Senior Member

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    Has anyone read A Matter for Men, by David Gerrold. The book explains that in the not too distant future America's role in the world is drastically changed by war. Of course this all happens before an alien invasion, but thats not the point. If I remember correctly, America used nuclear weapons to protect Isreal, which infuriates the world and America is forced to disarm( I mean everything). America, not having any political say, is only allowed to trade but that was controlled too. After recent events, I wonder. I don't believe any country would ally with us if we used Nukes, no matter what the kiloton was.
     
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  15. Malaclypse Perturber Registered Senior Member

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  16. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    Why is it that the US wants to atack Iraq for having "weapons of mass destrtion" but so have they and England and France and alot of other nations

    Also on the same day i read in an american News website that the US is Increasing its nukes, i read how happy they are that russa is cutting theres

    Also i read in on that site a headline that read "Americans favor midle-east peace proposle". Shouldn't we all worrie about what people ACTUALLY living in the middle-east think of it.

    I could only say HIPOCRITS after reading all this.
     
  17. ICARRYALOTOFBULLETS Quit smoking...:) Registered Senior Member

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    I can't believe you actually asked that question.
    Happy huh! So exactly how happy was I today?
     
  18. odin Registered Senior Member

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    ICARRYALOTOFBULLETS

    How many?
     
  19. ICARRYALOTOFBULLETS Quit smoking...:) Registered Senior Member

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    Basic load
     
  20. odin Registered Senior Member

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    How many is a basic load??

    odin
     
  21. ICARRYALOTOFBULLETS Quit smoking...:) Registered Senior Member

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    Is it important?
     
  22. Asguard Kiss my dark side Valued Senior Member

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    So everyone will just except US hipocrasy

    The world dosn't need, has never needed and WILL NEVER NEED nukes. Australia has none and we will always continue to push for the destruction of all Nukes in the UN

    If anyone dosn't belive me watch a movie called "on the beach" (not "the beach", "on the beach" theres a difference). This movie shows just what will happen if the atitudes of Bush and other Americans continue. Not notridamas WW3 followed by the age of enlightenment but the utter destruction of ALL LIFE ON EARTH (with the possable exception of bactiria).
     
  23. ICARRYALOTOFBULLETS Quit smoking...:) Registered Senior Member

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    Your right. I wouldn't disagree, but we aren't the only country to have them, as you've stated. What if America did disarm, do you really believe that the other countries will too?
     

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