What will the world do when it becomes over populated?

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  1. SoLiDUS OMGWTFBBQ Registered Senior Member

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    My thoughts.
     
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  3. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Rubbish. Any self respecting cannibal will tell you we taste like pigs. Why else did Pacific Islanders refer to human meat as 'long pig'. Pigs and humans are very similar (hence the muslim and Jewish admonition against eating pigs, since the risk of infection is very much higher).
     
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  5. A Canadian Why talk? When you can listen? Registered Senior Member

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    Thank you Mr. Scientist, would you like your fries with your Nobel Prize?
     
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  7. Ophiolite Valued Senior Member

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    Have I offended you with my appeal for accuracy?
     
  8. Fukushi -meta consciousness- Registered Senior Member

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    Why is it, that every time AMERICANS think about the world,....they can't fathom that there's more to it than just AMERICA.

    AMERICA will venture into space,...well DUH! What about ALL the other country's of the world? will the Chinese, Japanese, European ALL sit and wait to see that happen?

    Well FUCK AMERICA in that case,...I'll stick with the Chinese then,...let's SEE who wins this race for the FIRST human on MARS.
     
  9. Fraggle Rocker Staff Member

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    The predictions of a hopelessly increasing population died out quite a while ago. It became obvious that prosperity is the key to curbing runaway procreation. Everywhere in the world where the per capita GDP is rising, the birth rate is falling. The most prosperous countries have dropped below replacement level and are only buoyed up by immigration from less prosperous countries, as has already been pointed out.

    The consensus seems to be that the population might barely reach ten billion by the end of this century, and then it will start falling again. How far, no one knows.

    The premise of this thread is false. Or at least out of vogue.
     
  10. Victor E Registered Senior Member

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    The world will never be over-populated, the world CAN*T be overpopulated.. Because when it approached the limit, the world will solve it itself..

    In rich country, a family only have 1.8 childrens in general, which means the population are going down. (Except for the immigrants of course who got like 10 childrens)
     
  11. valich Registered Senior Member

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    The first part about "suicide booths" is ridiculous and only reminiscent of the book about Agent Orange, whatever it was called. Read it years ago.

    The reason for the space station, the proposed new plans by NASA to go back to the moon, and the proposals to go to Mars, are in part to start an inhabited presence there - or possibly a future community.

    You're kind've twisting the biological term "inbreeding" to mean "conformity within the culture." A couple of my friends are married to Japanese and the Japanese closely watch what goes on in the U.S. scientific community to get ideas and keep up with, and go beyond the times, and develop state-of-the-art creations that make everyones' life easier and/or more enjoyable. We can learn from the Japanese just like the Japanese learn from us.
     
  12. valich Registered Senior Member

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    The world already IS over-populated: I for one want more space. In China's rural areas there is no longer enough land available to allocate to each familie's descendents to live off of, so they have a "mass migration to urban area" problem that they are now dealing with.

    And as far as what we in the U.S. hear about as the so-called "one child per family" rule that China set up. The Chinese and any foreignor who has ever lived there for any length of time knows how much of a joke that is. Nobody follows that principle except the disabled and extremely poor. Everyone else pays off the village and city cadres and then have three, four or five children. Four children is about the norm. And then the children are pushed to marry as soon as possible, and have their own children early, on-and-on, so that they can provide financial security to their parents. The result: a massive population explosion.

    Yes, in a "rich country" the norm is 1.8 children per couple. But look at Africa where many nations still have polygamous families: a man has many wives and each wife has many children. I think the average size for a family in the average African country is to have about eight children, because the belief is that they know that not all of them will survive because of diseases and such. In the mean time, the U.S. dumps massive amounts of financial aid into programs to allow all those children to survive - usually without provide any corresponding education that convinces the people to have smaller families, and so they don't.
     
  13. certified psycho Beware of the Shockie Monkey Registered Senior Member

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    In half a century or so Africa will nearly be empty. (wars, diseases, famine, the works)

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  14. Pronatalist Registered Senior Member

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    Nah, we are still plenty enough under-populated, and figuring out how to populate denser and vaster all the time.

    Well what makes you so special, that you should get more space? What about more space, for all those billions of parents naturally procreating more children? Urbanize the planet to whatever extent needed. The basic primal right and duty to live and procreate, trumps your vague feeling for more space. Want more space? Isn't it your duty then, to move to some more sparsely populated place, if you so desire? Who says people have any right to a ridiculous amount of space, or to live in rural areas or small towns, so far away from huge human populations? No, people have a basic right to live and procreate, a vague feeling of desire for space is subjective, and not a basic right. You can have a spacious dwelling within a big city. Why isn't that enough for you?

    Human rights abuses are no joke. China may have perhaps relaxed former barbaric discrimination against supposedly overly large families, but that doesn't at all mean they weren't guilty of disparaging human life or denying people their basic primal right to produce their children.

    Why go contrary to nature in an area to deny people what's most essential - human life. I advocate more people to marry young, don't use any means of "birth control," don't space babies, let babies happen naturally just as fast as people's bodies want to grow babies. For relatively cheap organic matter or food to be converted into additional human bodies, is a completely natural and proper process, that should be as expected and welcome as allowing people to breathe or eat. We do let people breathe don't we, so let their babies push out naturally without any contrary-to-life effort at "birth control."

    Probably liberals would say that the growing world population increases the need for more and more people to become sexually active. I agree, but I don't agree with thwarting the natural spread and proliferation of human life. I welcome more people to enjoy sex and procreating, but within the responsible confines of marriage. People have very powerful reproductive urges, so I want for more people to pair up and marry, and be reproducing babies, to have proper natural outlet for their powerful reproductive drives, and so that all the more fellow human beings may experience life.

    It's good for people to have 5 children, 8 children, or however many God would let them be able to have. Larger families have parents with much experience raising children, hopefully or probably much love for their children, and children from larger families are better conditioned to both survive and thrive in an increasingly populous world, already having grown up in sometimes crowded homes with many siblings they learn to get along with well hopefully.

    How are people to enjoy having their precious darling children in a world with so many people already? Simple. Isn't it obvious? If we can't make the planet any bigger, no matter, as we can simply naturally populate denser and denser, and use technology, faith, innovation, all that to better adapt. There can simply come to be more places with lots of people and fewer places far from lots of people. In that sense, I very much welcome urban sprawl especially if it's population-driven. Or people can live in the countryside or scatter into small towns if they like. Spread out, spread closer together, stack up vertically, whatever best allows all the more people to experience life at the same time, keep the natural flow of human life flowing and spreading naturally, and encourages them to enjoy having their progeny.
     
  15. Orleander OH JOY!!!! Valued Senior Member

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    will humans be on the planet long enough to over populate it?
     
  16. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    No, we'll run out of fresh water and food long before there's that many people on the planet. Look at the number of areas in only the USA where drought conditions have been ongoing for years. And many of those places, like the fertile valleys of California, are where great quantities of our vegatables come from ...and they ain't got enough fresh water for irrigation.

    It's not "over population" of the Earth that's a concern, it's over population in particular areas of the world. Look at Africa ...in many areas Africa is vastly overpopulated. India? Southeast Asia? China?

    Baron Max
     
  17. visceral_instinct Monkey see, monkey denigrate Valued Senior Member

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    Ya, every girl old enough to menstruate should just leave school and be nothing more than a walking uterus.
     
  18. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    They already do now, don't they??? Or do all the people come from a different source these days and I haven't been keeping up?

    Baron Max
     
  19. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Basically North America will not be able to give out it's surplus food for free(or dirt cheap) at some point. Problem solved.
     
  20. Baron Max Registered Senior Member

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    We don't have enough food to feed the world ...not by a long, long sight! In fact, with the major drought conditions in much of the food belt, we're going to have some problems in the coming years just feeding our own people.

    Baron Max
     
  21. copernicus66 Banned Banned

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    Solution to overpopulation = Soylent Green. MMMMMMM.
     
  22. nietzschefan Thread Killer Valued Senior Member

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    Awesome - I'm not a big eater! Starve bitches!
     
  23. thinking Banned Banned

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    that is just plain nasty
     

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