Prostitution, is it a sin that it is illegal?

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  1. Marlin Registered Senior Member

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    Sex is the sacred, God-given power of procreation, whose purposes are to perpetuate the species and to bond together husband and wife in a holy union. Legalisinig prostitution is like painting a target on your back and saying, "Come and get me, God!" LOL.
     
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  3. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    I'm really like when I see idiots laugh at their own stupidity. Sex is used as a tool by theist to foister guilt. Sex is not sacred, that's retarded. Sex is considered as part of Original Sin, A retarded concept. Because humans need to have sex to procreate, it's considered sinfull. How idiotic is that? Christianity is, has been, and always will be, the worst religion for man that man has ever been conseived.

    It is clearly made to manipulate by emotions. Foister of a warped sense of morality by the use of quilt, for basic human emotions. Even wacking one's own meat is considered sinful, anything sexual, desire, love of self, or another's beauty, is considered sinful.

    No wonder that in a population were there mostly Christians, sex crimes are a high rate!

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  5. Marlin Registered Senior Member

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    Godless says,

    And "I'm really like" when idiots can't use grammatical sentences to mock me.

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  7. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Isss from texas

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  8. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Youssss a ssssnakeoid
     
  9. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Yall liss'n here. Well the thin here is that if one do not have good grammar, one is considard an idiot! that's just not fuckin riat. An idiot from texas can be a smart ass Like me!. But since I'm a godayum high school drop out, my grammar is secon' hand. Who gives a shit? he understood, he had nothin betner ta do but come an' criticise my grammar. Are yall wif me? But not the fuckin content. Why Cause I'm riat, he's an idiot, even though he may use proper grammar. Are yall wif me? Who gives a shit? Ya reckon?

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  10. Marlin Registered Senior Member

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    I really don't care about whether you construct grammatical sentences or not. You insulted me and called me an idiot, so I responded in kind. Are you the only one who gets to name-call here? :shrug:
     
  11. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Marlin, my apolegies. don't be so uptight man. Mostly I'm here to have fun, and screw with people's head. Anyhow picking on just grammar, and the such. Hell no one here is an English lit mayor. I think. Are you? If you are fine, I can always take pointers, but you'l find that when you point out to people's Mispelled words, grammar style and the such, they do take it as avoiding the subject of discussion. If you think I'm bad, read some of Duendy's posts. LOL..

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  12. weebee Registered Senior Member

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    http://www.guardian.co.uk/crime/article/0,2763,1686861,00.html

    the rest of the artical is pretty pants, but i thought it might drag yous two back on topic

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  13. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Here! Here Weebee. I'll takes a looksie at the link when I find the freaking time, perhaps lattesontoday..
     
  14. Marlin Registered Senior Member

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    Apology accepted. No, I'm not an English major. I just took a dig at you because you called me an idiot. Knee-jerk reaction, that is all it was. I apologize for it.
     
  15. Christopher3 BLINDED BY SCIENCE Registered Senior Member

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    Do you actually think by taxing prostitutes and making it legal it would improve the conditions for the prostitutes on the street??? That si in par with saying I think I will cut of my head to alleviate my headache! Legalizing prositition my pal will only make it a feasible and entrepreneurial entriprise exsistence for all the scum pimps, trafickers and sleeze buckets of the world. Not to mention the abuse and explotation of vunerable women.... paying high taxes now, screened like a common commodity for disease, and not allowed pension for services rendered (such as in Germany) Also having no more annominty, having stigma, and being a registered sex worker!!! Whats wrong with society anyway!!!

    To cure something because it exsists and it is wrong and immoral and unrighteous, by putting blinders on, and ensuing to pretend to give these women some rights, only alows the expotation to continue even more advanced, but now it is supposedly reduced of its immoral stigma, because the stupid government wants a piece of the pie!!!!

    Its unbelievable that people see sex as mere nothing but an exchange of orgasm or fluids!!! That people who engage in such sport find it pleasurable, as far as sex goes?? I though human beings were higher than mammals, evolved to stand up straight, think with their forebrains, comprehend the incomprehendible, so why is it so difficult to understand that devaluing the role of sex and women that serve as sex workers to horney men is not a abusive, unequal form of control??
     
  16. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Christopher3; You couldn't be further from the truth!. That what you wrote is utter bullocks and just your opinion. In the state of Nevada prostitution is LEGAL! and we have non of the problems you so uninformedly mentioned. The girls are taken care of, and many make over $100,000 a year in this industry. Fact is a good hooker is not the ones you find in the streets, but in legal brothels. In Las Vegas girls charge anywere from $250.00hr or more just to come and dance for you in your motel/hotel room they can average about $1500.00 a week, and they don't sell their bodies. Prostitution is ilegal in Clark County. (Las Vegas). A brothel in Nevada is not a cheap enterprise, that you probably are led to believe, many of these places have restaurants, bars, and of course plenty of good looking women to choose from.

    Actually if we were to legalize prostitution, the street hooker would need to find a brothel to work out of, once legalized many entreperneurs would open their brothels, with clean girls, and nice atmosphere, rendering the services of street hookers as second rate, or low budget. The law could go as far, as not accepting "street hookers" but allowing legal brothels instead, one's which the state can regulate as they do any business, and have employee benefits.

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    401K plans and the whole nine yard. Why not?

    Bull shit, this is just your opinion and the state of Nevada has already PROVEN You wrong. We don't have an infestation of brothels opening up in every corner of the state, and each county can regulate these businesses any way that best suit them and their economy.

    And as Jesus was told that the woman was a prostitute, he said: "If your not a sinner, than you can cast the first stone" Can You throw that first rock?

    The above coming from an atheist, with a moral lesson here. Don't judge others, untill you judge yourself first. Is what basically Jesus ment with his statement, and it holds water in secular way as well. You are judging, without provacation, and little knowledge of the facts of other peoples sexual behavior or problems, that servises like these can provide an outlet to some men & women.

    It's unbelievable that you can't see further than your stuck up nose!. You have been fed these "moral" BS, from religious society, and the true morality is that an individual can do what ever the hell he/she wants with her body, and not to be dictated of what is moral or not, when there's no victim, in the fact of selling sex, in a mutual consenting way. It beats the hell out of those criminals, that would rather rape a woman, then just to pay a whore for servises rendered.


    Take your own statement and do as you so advise. Only because you differ in the opinion of others do you find it repugnant, that sex is sold, in a cosentual way. There's no abusive manipulations of these women that work in legal brothels, they choose when they want to work, or when they want to leave and what hours they are willing to stay in the brothel. Think foryourself and don't let religioust moralist dictate to you what is moral and what is not. There's no crime here being commited, there's a CONSENTUAL contract between the John & the prostitute to exchange what one wants for what the other needs. All the prostitute is doing is providing a service to a lonely horny man, rather have him pay a prostitute, then rape a woman, Wouldn't you?

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  17. Christopher3 BLINDED BY SCIENCE Registered Senior Member

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    Take your own statement and do as you so advise. Only because you differ in the opinion of others do you find it repugnant, that sex is sold, in a cosentual way. There's no abusive manipulations of these women that work in legal brothels, they choose when they want to work, or when they want to leave and what hours they are willing to stay in the brothel. Think foryourself and don't let religioust moralist dictate to you what is moral and what is not. There's no crime here being commited, there's a CONSENTUAL contract between the John & the prostitute to exchange what one wants for what the other needs. All the prostitute is doing is providing a service to a lonely horny man, rather have him pay a prostitute, then rape a woman, Wouldn't you?

    Godless : Godless, good opinion for you, but comparing a little sliver of Nevada to the rest of the world: Europe, and Asia, Ukraine, and Mylasia etc
    .etc., also Newark and Lodi, NJ, do you think what they do there is going to change to to some pompous, greedy dictation from the government legalizing the oldest profession???? I am sure Nevada prostitions and the Bunny Ranch is a so called classy high priced prostition setup!!! Good for that!! I am sure these women have more power over their profession there than they used to, many started out as street prostitutes or worked in strip joints, I am sure this seems like a piece of heaven and Nirvana to them, and the money is great too!!! So lets all live in that Fantasy world, that that is how all legalized prostition rings will operate!!! Lets!!! And lets for 1 minute be realistic and specualate that given the legal power for pimps to operate will only create more traficking to America for young innocent girls to flee their country of poverty to be a prostitute,and be exploited by middled aged horney men that have no other recorse or would rape if given the alternative!!! Rape my friend is an act of violence, and not sexual release, can we confuse the issues anymore! That my man is choices we here in America can be so ignorant to think it will solve everything!!!
     
  18. weebee Registered Senior Member

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    I’ve heard the argument that they like the hours, money and sex but I’m not sure that this counters the level of reported violence. Research at the uni in Glasgow showed that 2/3 of both indoor and outdoor experience client violence. http://www1.rhbnc.ac.uk/sociopolitical-science/vrp/Findings/rfbarnard.PDF

    Again, the more I get to know about prostitution the more I think I want nothing to do with anyone (still) involved. I did go out with someone for two years who’d used prostates in A’dam –now I relies that he was just a sad pathetic guy who used women to boost his ego.

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  19. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    There is even violence in cartoons. There will be situations were pratons will want to abuse, but I do think this is blown out of porpotion cosidering the number of clients that ovbiously are not abusive.

    Decriminalize Prostitution Now Coalition

    Nevada

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    Legalized Prostitution Regulating the Oldest Profession

    *(Legal prostitution in the State of Nevada is a licensed, regulated and tightly controlled business activity. Prior to a prostitute being allowed to provide services, there are screening practices which protect patrons and the ladies themselves.

    Nevada has state laws that allow for legal licensed brothels and legal licensed prostitutes. Each county has its own ordinances and rules. Brothels and prostitutes must past a criminal background check for licensing; they must adhere to strict medical testing and controls; pay substantial taxes, licensing and other fees; are economic contributors to their communities; and are accountable for a high standard of conduct or can be put out of business.)*
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    Morality a standard set by society dictates what is right or wrong, etheics dictates that consentual sex acts are not amoral, so what that one is paying for a minimal service of an hour. It's not as if you don't pay nothing at all when you want to get laid by the nice chick in your work place.

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    First date. Dinner and a movie. Avg. $50.00
    Second date. Dinner and a movie, perhaps hit a night club as well. Avg. $80.00, still no score.
    Third date. Dinner, night club, spend good money on liquor getting her drunk. Avg. $100+ hopefully she perhaps looses her inhibitions and parts away with her panties latter on that night. Priceless!

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    But if you didn't hit it off in the bedroom, you've already invested $230.00 for a pice of ass you din't appreciate. A hooker would have only cost you hundred dollars and perhaps, since she's more "experienced" would have twirled your world.

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  20. Christopher3 BLINDED BY SCIENCE Registered Senior Member

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    First date. Dinner and a movie. Avg. $50.00
    Second date. Dinner and a movie, perhaps hit a night club as well. Avg. $80.00, still no score.
    Third date. Dinner, night club, spend good money on liquor getting her drunk. Avg. $100+ hopefully she perhaps looses her inhibitions and parts away with her panties latter on that night. Priceless!

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    But if you didn't hit it off in the bedroom, you've already invested $230.00 for a pice of ass you din't appreciate. A hooker would have only cost you hundred dollars and perhaps, since she's more "experienced" would have twirled your world.

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    Godless[/QUOTE]
    LOL all the way to the BANK!!! Priceless, But in the long run being in a relationship with a girl you respect and care for is cheaper in the long run and PRICELESS!!!
     
  21. Godless Objectivist Mind Registered Senior Member

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    Only if she's willing to foot half the bill. Otherwise, you'r stuck with a gold digger who thinks one makes a mint, out of above $3.00 or 4 dollar of minimum wage job.

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    but overall I agree with that statement. It take two to Tango, and it also takes two to keep the house or apartment, the cars, the bills, the kids, the kids toys, and her personal stuff, and whatever else life throws at you, that cost money!. But if love is there, the effort made is priceless!.

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    I've not been so fortunate though. I'm 43 soon to be 44 years old, never maried, no kids, presently no girlfriend, and no time for cruising the singles scene, a hooker sounds reasonable, get off, get frustration off my back, too bad I don't even frequent titi bars, it's all in the economics. I rather gamble, then get a meaningless lay!.

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