Learning Psychic Powers *free-4-all*

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  1. ismu ::phenomenon::. Registered Senior Member

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    training center

    I got more info about training center.

    Try to search on google by keywords: "Satria Nusantara" or "Merpati Putih". Those training centers both from Indonesia. Satria Nusantara purely exercise on inner-power and health, Merpati Putih combine inner-power (for experts) with traditional martial art (for beginner). Satria Nusantara already opened training center in Netherland (your country Psy-learner!

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    ). I heard that Merpati Putih also opened at USA.
    I've ever exercise in both of these training center. On telepathy, i've lerned from somewhere else willing to remain unexposed. Both of these training centers also mostly opened on Colleges in Indonesia, and also in 10 Nov Institute of Technology --my college

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    -- as extra-curriculum activity.

    Unfortunately mostly web you gonna found are in Indonesian language. But must be there some links in English somewhere.

    See... James R, we're not talking bullshit here. Hope one of training center opened in your country, so we can get your analyst from scientific view

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  3. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Hi ismu,

    That's interesting. Could you please tell me what sorts of things you were taught at the centres you mentioned? What kinds of techniques? Do any of them work over long distances, so that you can demonstrate them over the internet?

    Are these places very common in Indonesia? How many people go to them? Do they teach everybody, or only people with some special abilities?

    If the proof of paranormal powers exists, why haven't we seen any? Surely they would be easy to demonstrate under controlled conditions - especially by trained experts such as yourself.
     
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  5. Pollux V Ra Bless America Registered Senior Member

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    Well I thought I heard something awhile back about this Indian (no, not native american) guy who John Lennon idolized. I'm not sure but did the guy turn out to be a total b.ser?
     
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  7. ismu ::phenomenon::. Registered Senior Member

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    James R,
    No, these can't be learned at home. It's might harm to ourself without direct (face-to-face) supervision from experts.

    They teach everybody. But the results and progress depends on individual nature. As we people there the smart one and dumb one, can't have equal progress in science education. The rest of answer you can find in my posts in Telepathy thread.

    James R & Pollux V,
    They don't like to show of force for nothing, we should use the skill for nobel purpose, such as self defense, not for fun, nor to take benefit in selfish manner. During training we always told to be wise and humble handling this skill. (I was tempted to act wicked at the first times

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    ). There are sky above sky, by having these skill won't make us as invincible superhuman.
     
  8. Psy-learner Registered Senior Member

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    Here's an official Announcement...

    - Hey guys, after practicing and mostly find information...
    (just say gathering information only for almost 2 years)
    I have an announcement to make...

    - Probably not all of you psychics are open about your powers, but a lot of you appeared to open up thanx to Banshee...
    This post wil be posted in more then 1 thread...

    - A few days ago, I seriously started to try telekinesis again, and very seriously...
    Even whit a method (seeming boring and dificult) so simple and fun to try...
    --- The psi-wheel technique ---
    and I did it, whit more and sooner results then I even expected after long last...
    I don't want to mis-guide people here, but I did it in even the first session...
    Not on a big scale, but at least noticable...
    Te day after went 3 times as better...

    So I now pronounce myself, as Psychic controlled...

    I'll practice more, to get very good, and try to encourage people to open up for it, and to learn it if they can be trusted whit it...

    Cheers to you all and your sucesses on the same goals as I have...

    P.S. : "Here's a late reply for ismu..."

    I truely want to grow my skills in most area's...
    And I have a good confidence in myself, and litteraly now...

    I studied about 2 years now, so if something will get out of hand, I know that I can prevent, minimize or even restore it...
    Maybe it'll be good to have a teacher though...
    But I was a person mostly on my own on these things...

    "And for Banshee..."
    Sure I'll teach some things to you and explain some things...
    I first want to train my self thouroughly, so I'll master it fast enough (whit minimal damage, if any).

    And I'll know what I'll talk about

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    If I didn't, I wouldn's...
     
  9. ismu ::phenomenon::. Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Here's an official Announcement...



    For your own sake, at least you supposed to know where to find a help, just in case something wrong happen. Such as internal injured or inconscious.

    Congratulation for your achievement

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  10. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Psy-learner, how you mean this? Explanation please. Thank you.

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    Be careful...

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    Originally posted by Psy-learner
    *"And for Banshee..."
    Sure I'll teach some things to you and explain some things...*

    What exactly do you want to teach me? Just wondering...

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  11. Psy-learner Registered Senior Member

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    Re: Ki Energies...

    Well, this was your Message to me, on the previous page...
    So that is what I'll teach and/or explain to you

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    I do have 2 links, but I don't know if you'd like them...
     
  12. proycon Registered Member

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    Logic and parapsychology

    Hey...

    I'd like to participate in this discussion as well, as a new sciforums member... On one hand I'm a pretty scientific and sceptical person, I let reason be the engine of my mind, and emotions the fuel of that engine...

    On the other hand, I do keep a open mind towards everything... Although I strongly believe that everything in the universe is logical, I do believe that there are things which seem illogical and supernatural because we don't yet understand them... This also enables me to believe in the possibility of telepathy, telekinesis, astral projection and the like....

    My question to you-all is, are so-called psychic powers still possible with such an attitude? I'd very much like to develop myself in all ways possible, hence also in parapsychological ways... Until now I've been rather unsuccesfull in such things although they've always appealed my interest.

    A theory is that such 'supernatural' things only work if you believe them to work for 100%... The truth is that logic doesn't allow me that.. Because there's always a chance (a fairly big chance) then the 'power' doesn't work..

    I'd appreciate your insights on this,
     
  13. *stRgrL* Kicks ass Valued Senior Member

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    This is the first time I wandered in the parapsychology, this is all very interesting to me. But in the opening post, I took it that I would be learning how to use my psychic abilities (which I do believe in) but so far noone has gave me any tips, except other places on the net to look. I like Banshees tip on taking a walk with nobody around - I try that every weekend - and it is very relaxing and fulfilling. Ive tried meditating, but I have very little personal time. And also, does meditating itself help you gain the psychic ability or does it just open up your mind more? Im thinking the latter. So, other than an open mind, what more can I do? Are there other techniques that I could try or learn to gain better understanding of my psychic abilities?? Just curious.

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    Groove on
     
  14. Psy-learner Registered Senior Member

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    My oppinion is that you have a (maybe even big) chance...
    If you are really open, you'll have to do everything told to you on how to do it...

    Meditation is a way to amplify the possibility, but I didn't meditate while doing TK...

    When you do a TK method, don't analize it...
    Just go whit it...
    Silent your thoughts, but don't force it...
    Do the method like it is explained, and just believe in it...
    Get rid of logic for that time being...

    IF you DO want to analize it, just come to patience, and AFTER your experience, (if any) analize what you did, what you felth, and what you thought...

    I advise to search thuroughly about paranormal activities like I did...
    It gave me a boost...
     
  15. wet1 Wanderer Registered Senior Member

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    Proycon, welcome to Sciforums.

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    Yep, psychic abilities and good reasoning go very well together.

    *stRgrL*, everybody can open up their psychic abilities. Not everyone has the same possibilities. Meditation is a good way to open up your Inner Self/Inner Senses and find a good balance between your feelings and your acting toward the outside world. A lot of humans grow narrow-minded, as society asks this and most people want to belong to the herd. So, scientific evidence for everything and if it's not to be proven, it doesn't exist.

    Guess most of this human race has lost connection with Nature and their Inner Selfs. Everything is already decided for them by the rules and laws of this consumption society. Then feelings are hidden, easier to do without that 'voice' which tries to speak to them from within.

    So, besides being in Nature and treat Her with respect, be yourself, be true to yourself and your Inner Feelings...

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    I bet you've had experiences with rather 'unexplainable things' during this life time. Think about it!
     
  16. (Q) Encephaloid Martini Valued Senior Member

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    Yep, psychic abilities and good reasoning go very well together.

    They are however, at opposite ends of the spectrum in regards to reality.

    Guess most of this human race has lost connection with Nature and their Inner Selfs.

    Unlike others who have lost connection with reality.
     
  17. *stRgrL* Kicks ass Valued Senior Member

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    Oh yes, I have. Thanks for the advise. Im going on a mission this weekend to find my inner self! Wish me luck!!!!


    Groove on
     
  18. ismu ::phenomenon::. Registered Senior Member

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    Basic: breath training

    I concern about your safety, guys and gals. So I'll tell some tips so you're not misleading on your practice. Before entering next phase you MUST do these breathing steps. Or your health could go worst.

    PLEASE READ CAREFULLY!

    There are 4 types of breath (As long as I knew and did. Other discipline might be use another) in meditating. These must be done in sequences. DON'T do next type of breath before you done previous types.

    1) 1:2 sided breath
    This breath is in proportion 1:2. Means inhale in n heart beat, and exhale in 2n heart beat. The longer the better, but DON'T push yourself. If you feel comfort in breathing with 2 heart beat inhale and 4 hart beat exhale, don't push yourself to larger number. Start it with 2/4 heart beats. Normally you'll done this step in 1--2 months.

    Do it about 30--45 minutes daily, at night, at opening (or well ventilated room). You can do it before you go to sleep.

    Practice this breath until you feel comfort with at least 6/12 heart beats. REMEMBER: DO NOT PUSH YOURSELF TO ACHIEVE LARGER NUMBER. BE PATIENT UNTIL YOU FEEL COMFORT WITH THIS BREATH. Maximum numbers is 8/16. Larger than that won't make any good.

    This kind of breat then shold be used in your daily life, after you finished this types of breath, and move on next types.

    2) 1:1 sided breath
    After you feel comfort with 1:2 sided breath, your night breath rituals should be changed to 1:1 proportion. Do it daily until you can reach at least 8/8 heart beats. Maximum 12/12.
    These two types of breath needed to prepare your body and mind to practice next phase of breaths without degradation of your health. Normally you'll done this step in 1--2 months.

    Notice that these breathing practice may damage your brain if it can't get enough oxygen supply.

    Remember: Use 1:2 sided breath in your daily life.

    3) 2:1:2 sided breath
    It means 2n heart beats inhale, 1n heart beats hold, 2n heart beats exhale. Do it daily until you can reach at least 8/4/8 heart beats. Maximum 12/6/12.

    This breath type is used to collect energy from suroundings. While meditating, imagine you suck pure energy while inhale, lock those energy below your navel while holding your breath, and release impurities in your body while exhale.

    Remember: Don't push yourself. Holding too much energy beyond your capability may harm yourself. Don't practice this more than 1 hour a day, Unless you're advanced and can feel your own energy and you capacity.

    In this this phase, should be there is an expert guide you. He'll know are you have enough energy yet to go to next phase. An expert (teacher) can feel how much energy cou collect. If you don't have enough energy, step by step you'll gonna lost your energy you've been collected in next phase.
    Useless isn't it? You got to do this phase again if you lost your energy in next phase.

    But in average, most of people got enough energy after 3 upto 6 months.

    4) 2:1:2:1 sided breath
    This means 2n heart beats inhale, 1n heart beats hold while your lung full of air, 2n heart beats exhale, and 2n heart beats hold while your lung empty. Do it daily until you can reach at least 8/4/8/4 heart beats. Maximum 16/8/16/8.

    This breath type is used to collect energy from suroundings, and prepare your energy to use. While meditating, imagine you suck pure energy while inhale, lock those energy below your navel while holding your breath, release some of your energy to create such energy shield around your body while exhale, and lock that shield while hold in empty lung.

    This energy shield is used to protect you. And ready to use (combined with energy you have below your navel) for other purpose such as long distance atack, telekinetic, hard material breaking with bare hand (or even using your head), telepathy, etc.

    Practice this type of breath at least 1 hour daily. And keep breathing with 1:2 side breath in your daily life. Otherwise, you'll lost your ability, and should restart your practice from the baginning.

    It's requres more practice to utilize you energy, depends on specialization / expertise you want to do.

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    Good luck, and keep yourself being humble. There are skies above sky, there must be someone, somewhere, have ability above yours. Use your ability ONLY for nobel puposes. Don't ever just show up for nothing!!

    DISCLAIMER: I don't take any responsibility for any damage and/or injuries you may got and/or create. I've suggest you to get a teacher who can assist you face to face. I've told the risk, and assume you ready to take any risk on your own.
     
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  19. ismu ::phenomenon::. Registered Senior Member

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    note about breath exercise

    As I mentioned above while I said "Other discipline might be use another" (~type of breath) it's about 2:1:2 sided breath.

    Other discipline (as I knew and did) using triangle breath. It was using 1:1:1 proportion of heart beats period for inhale:hold:exhale.
    But i suggest to use 2:1:2. It easier and more safe for your health.

    Do 2:1:2 sided breath exercise (or triangle breath) if you feel your power goes weak. It's used to collect energy from surrounding without waste it to build your shield.

    Again, don't forget: 2:1:2 sided or triangle breath can work ONLY if your body has prepared well using 1:2 and 1:1 sided breath. If not your body can't hold enough energy by 2:1:2 or triangle breath.
     
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  20. Psy-learner Registered Senior Member

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    whit an added relpy to *stRgrl*

    Uhh, whooops there *stRgrl*.
    Well yeah, but I didn't really get to it yet...
    And uhh, this might sound like a lame excuse, but, I thought that I menth whit *free-4-all* that anybody whit a technique of his, her own ot a good technique, would post it here, and to post good comments about abilities.

    It actually says that in the first post...
    So, "if" you have anything, post it...
    Clearly and detailed, like ismu and I did/do...

    And I'll edit the first post to ad a disclaimer, just to be sure...

    But sure, I'll try to get to it, and uhh, sorry for the mess...
    So here is the fist Tech I'll post (for the second time) wich I sucseeded in using...
    And ofcourse (thanks to ismu) the Second technique on this forum, even to make it up for you all...

    ---Here is the psi-wheel tech...

    The psi-wheel technique is simpelly prepared...

    Tools needed:
    A piece of paper, larger then 1/2 inch x 1/2 inch, or 1 cm x 1 cm.
    1 scissor.
    1 thumb-tack.

    Make cut a square piece of paper to the about size I mentioned.
    Now you have to fold the paper 4 times...

    Once so that the top-left corner touches the lower-right corner.
    Once so that the top-right corner touches the lower-left corner.

    Turn the piece of paper around.

    Then once so the left corners touches the right corners...
    And then once so that the top corners touches the bottom corners.

    Now, set the thumb-tack so the metal point is upward...
    Now balance the piece of paper on it, and try not to let you or anything blow at it...
    If it helps to make you sure, set a glas upside down over it.
    (this could make it a bit more dificult, so it's your call)
    Now it's set!


    Sugestedly, meditate for minimally 15 minutes.
    Other wise relax and clear your miind completely, and get a goood focus on what you are doing.
    (Yes, goood, whit 3 o's, that's because you do have to focus good on only the method...)

    Now, focus on one corner of the paper...
    Focus on it whit all your energy, and (uhhm, how to explain it) *will* it to turn..
    Try if it helps, that it spinns on the top of the tack...

    Now what didn't work for me: when you get a good control, try knocking it off of the tack and see iff you sucseed...

    And somethink that did woek for me: if you can't focus on it, try pushing is whit energy trough your hands...
    If you can make invisible psi-balls, this will be a bit easier for you.
    Set your hand about atleast 5 centimeters from it, and try to imagine energy from it and pushing against a corner.
    Or point at the cornet, and try to imagine it comming out of your index finger...
    now there is 1 little technique whit this too, but if you use it, it could spoil it, because you could get depended on it...
    And that is what you don't want, limited results and limited Psycokinesis...


    Some tips on the side:

    1. When you focus on it, try to do it whitout nesseseraly thinking about it.
    Sure you can let one or two thoughts slip trough, as long as you can recover it fast and get a good focus back.

    2. Try to focus or imagining the goal instead of the task, to be honnest, that was a bit of a boost the second day I did it.

    3. Try to fool your sub-consions, try and *tell it* "Hey, it moved, did you see it? You did that".
    If your lucky, it does move, but don't depend on it...
    [DISCLAIMER, this is a tip that didn't came from myself]

    4. To read it again, go to:
    http://www.spiritonline.com/files/messages/17/410.html?965436363
    and
    http://www.psipog.org/cgi-bin/show.cgi?000-005 "Note that this site does have 2 working clips of the psi-wheel"
     
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  21. Psy-learner Registered Senior Member

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    Just to make sure if you skipped the first post, or already readed it before...

    [DISCLAIMER] I/We will NOT take responsibility for any action that you did using any of these techniques/methods. You did it yourself, out of your own free will. If you where forced by someone that was NOT on the thread, then HE/SHE is responsible for your actions, and should take it. We only post techniques here for you and others out of interest and/or to learn out of free will .
     
  22. ismu ::phenomenon::. Registered Senior Member

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    Interesting Psy-learner.

    But using only concentration you'll can only move lightweight suffs. Because you don't have enough energy to magnify your will.

    By using breath practice as you basic training, after master it, you may have enough power to throw 400 pounds guy couple meters away without touching him.

    Keep practicing

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  23. James R Just this guy, you know? Staff Member

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    Can you do that, ismu?
     

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