Why Iran would develop an A-Bomb

Discussion in 'World Events' started by Brian Foley, Jan 21, 2006.

  1. Anomalous Banned Banned

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    I think the goal should be to handover all weapons arms and soilders all over the world to UN, and take UN out of USA.
     
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  3. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    But the USA created the U.N itself , I believe we should move the U.N to New York , we in the world do not need this dinosaur of American manipulation in our nations .
     
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  5. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    Do you even know where the UN Headquarters is located?

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  7. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    ^^ Nice.

    "Awash in atomic weaponry"? Ok dude.

    Tell me how many sovereign nations exist on the planet.

    Now tell me how many are nuclear-capable.
     
  8. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Yeah how much is enough ?

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  9. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    That is a rather clumsy dodge. I expect better, even for you.
     
  10. spidergoat pubic diorama Valued Senior Member

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    I was referring to the Bush Administration seeking funds for a new "bunker buster" 70 times more powerful than the Hiroshima bomb in its FY 2006 budget.
     
  11. AmishRakeFight Remember, remember. Registered Senior Member

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    Strategy and tactics wise, that is a brilliant decision. Obviously, Bush's agenda includes confrontation with Iran, and then who knows who else? Since the bunkers and underground tunnels have been an issue in the past, America plans to shock-and-awe the opposition into submission. So basically it's the first non-nuclear WMD that is specifically designed for warfare in the Middle East. I'm not sure what they plan on blowing up with these things, but I pity tha foo' who finds himself in a bunker somewhere when one of these explodes.

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  12. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    Could you for Christ sake explain yourself ?
     
  13. Neildo Gone Registered Senior Member

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    And people are worried about nukes? Hell, if there's non-nuclear weaponry 70x more powerful than the a-bomb, I'd worry more about that. Yet, you're fine with them being used on the field of battle all because they're not "nuclear"?

    My, the logic.

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  14. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    I figured this is what you were referring to but I wanted to be sure. That isn't proliferation.

    Go back and read my post again, slowly this time.
     
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  16. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    O.K I will do it r e a l s l o w
    237 nations.
    Let me see , America , Russia , China , India , Pakistan , France , Britain , North Korea and Israel which makes 9 nations which accounts for 3.7% of the worlds sovereign nations . Gee I see what you mean I soooo misunderstood you !

    However if we did not play semantics and got to the real statistics we would see that the combined population of those nations which have atomic weapons is 3,184,823,447 which accounts for some 49% of the worlds 6,499,696,392 population which means this world is awash in nuclear weaponery .

    Oh better yet please explain to me how 35,000 atomic warheads which can destroy our world and kill every living human being on Earth some 7 times over is not a case of overkill and oversupply ?

    I would be most interested in your answer .
     
  17. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, yes you did. Congratulations on rectifying your error.

    Irrelevant. Domestic population has no bearing in this case.

    Where did I ever say it was not? Quote please.
     
  18. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Why would Iran develop an A-Bomb?

    Simple! So they can bomb Hiroshima.

    Why would Iran develop ANOTHER A-Bomb?

    So they can bomb Nagasaki.

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  19. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Pakistani's built their new idol!

    What a funny looking god!

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    This man with the shovel is digging graves for the sacrificed children.

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  20. Giambattista sssssssssssssssssssssssss sssss Valued Senior Member

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    Well, maybe he's just hitting the dirt. BAD DIRT!!! BAD!!!!!!!
     
  21. phlogistician Banned Banned

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    I thought there was an issue with the NNPT specifics and the 'bunker buster', over what was classed as 'new' weaponry, and developing 'new' weaponry was prohibited under the NNPT? A nit pick, sure, but some people love getting antsy over the small print.
     
  22. Brian Foley REFUSE - RESIST Valued Senior Member

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    That’s ok
    Considering those nations I listed excluding Israel and Nth Korea consist 70% of world trade and finance as well as 90% of the globes military I would venture to say that this is not irrelevant .
    Well could you for Fucks sake explain what point you are attempting to arrive at because I sure as hell cannot figure your very evasive posting .
     
  23. Stokes Pennwalt Nuke them from orbit. Registered Senior Member

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    Yes, the NNPT is rather explicit about forbidding the development of new weaponry. However, the RNEP, or "bunker buster" is nothing more than a hardened steel case to fit around existing warheads. It is the same W81 warhead we've been using for the B61 tactical bomb since its inception in 1971. If we went about making further modifications to the actual physics package of the weapon itself, that would be a decided no-no, but putting existing weapons in new cases isn't the same thing.

    But yeah, this is probably splitting more hairs than it's worth.

    Yes it is. National sovereignity bears no regard to GDP, population or the size of one's military. A nation is equal to a nation, regardless of these specific attributes (or others). The sovereign nation of Fiji is just as much of a national entity as the sovereign nation of Spain, Singapore, or Iran is.
    I suggest re-reading the thread more closely. I never made any statement regarding the size of national nuclear stockpiles, for better or for worse. Yet you moved on to attack me as if I did. Rather than strawmanning me, you should either address my arguments or ignore them. When you take blithe potshots, you only end up hitting yourself.
     

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